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My lil' itsy bitsy 5 month old pup gets a whole frame to munch on. Gave her a lamb off-cut bone thing last night and she loved that too but it got stuck in her teeth and mouth was "glued" shut. She nearly choked to death before we realised. Will be sticking to the frames for a while methinks

I FOUND IT!!! ;) :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: OK everyone. I don't know how to put the link in here so I'll just let you know where it is: "Poo Eating Habit" posted on 14th May, Page 13 of the General Dog Discussion. The forum member who wrote about the cat poo was "Ishtar" from Finland , not Steve as I had thought. As usual, forum members are NOT experts but I knew I'd seen this somewhere and he's got a bit of a suggestion regarding the eating of cat poo. Sounds like someone else on that thread has read "Clinical Behavioural Medicine For Small Animals" too!! :D Thanks for being so patient with me, I'm so technophobic!

Aaah - stuffed if I can find it Erny!!! Must have been in another section - I've just gone back the last 90 days!! Hope Steve read this......

Never read the book discussed, "Clinical Behavioural Medicine For Small Animals" - WOW! - you're really into this Erny . Just remembering this previous thread..think it might have been Steve who wrote it. I know I'm going to have to back and find it now

Read something in one of there threads somewhere about eating poo. If a dog eats it's own poo, it's normal but if it eats cat poo it is lacking in some nutrient. Can anyone else remember? Look back at a thread about eating poo and I'm sure you'll find it. My dogs all supplement themselves with the cow pats and the horse droppings... ;)

Pumpkin picked straight from the garden and anihilated over several hours - never ceases to amaze me how they can bite into a pumpkin! Something bad about BANANA SKINS. Does anyone know? Chooks won't touch them, neither would my piggy. Know you can use them to get rid of warts...

What about kangaroo meat for an organic, free-range, non-intensively farmed animal? Very pc. ;)

George My Doggie: PLEASE make an educated informed decision. You have obviously got a very strong opinion about feeding your dog a vegetarian diet and are well-armed with all the information for the reasons you SHOULD. And I'm not flaming but I've got to stick up for SkysongTollrz - nature did intend for dogs to eat meat. Sorry but them's the facts. What animal would you prefer to be cruel to? You have been given a lot of advice here on DOL but you now need to really educate yourself about the CONS. Do read the book "Give A Dog A Bone". If you can't buy your own copy, I am sure your Canine Control Council would have one in their library. I'm not saying this will change your mind but it will give you a little more education about this issue and you can say, "I HAVE read the book and in my educated and informed opinion, my dog is a vegetarian". It will only reinforce your position. I'm not completely against feeding a dog a vege diet but I choose not to. If the dog is healthy and happy on a vege diet, then great but in certain dogs it is to his/her detriment which is not the sort of dog owner you want to be. You obviously are a caring person. Stay openminded and good luck with your education :rolleyes:

I think if you have a vision impairment and are training your own lil' guy, he will end up being a very special lad. Imagine how sensitive he will be. ;) I might make a tentative suggestion that you speak to a trainer at the Guide Dogs and explain your situation. Know you are not totally blind, you can obviously do things with certain aids or assistance and will be cured once you have your transplant, but in the meantime maybe they can offer you some helpful advice. Don't know what but as I said - a tentative suggestion. Also, if your breeder really wants Henry shown, then perhaps under the circumstances, they could do something extra to ensure it happens. Like strip him out in a couple months or whatever has to be done. You should make sure that he does go to the groomer though. Behaviourally, it'll be harder if it's left too long. Good work with the lead training. It can only improve from here on in. :rolleyes: Hope this hasn't come across as being patronising or anything. Just sounds like you need some help at the moment.

Throw in my 2 cents worth.. Had an elderly BC staying with us for a while, fed commercial food and bones. Absolutely STANK - like REALLY, REALLY VILE. The worst doggy smells I've ever come across. French friend, recently arrived in Oz was amazed that dogs got fed meat. Apparently a huge percentage of pet dogs in Europe are only fed veges - meat is way too expensive for the average person to eat let alone feeding it to a dog! Let's not forget that the French eat all the offal bits and that's one of the historical reasons why - small country, not enough room for a lot of livestock, couldn't afford to keep it's starving population alive and therefore they eat every part of the animal. So, vegetarian diet for dogs is a very common phenomenon. We followed her directions for the vege soup as she convinced us that the dog wouldn't smell if it ate only veges. She had a GSD who lived to a ripe old age and always fed on this vege soup diet etc etc. all sounded good. After a hell of a lot of effort and persistence, the soup smelled fantastic, looked fantastic, healthy as anything - the dog wouldn't touch it! ;) :p My dogs now or on a BARF diet. They get everything they need and even then they will scavenge the chook food and pick pumpkins out of the garden. I'll say it again and again - EDUCATION :rolleyes:

Just learn how to do it yourself. Oh, hang on - you said you can't - why is that? I don't know anything about Griffons but if it only has to be stripped 3/4 times a year then why can't you take the dog back to the breeder - surely the breeder knew this issue would come up so will have a contingency especially as you have purchased a show quality pup. Talk to other griffon owners at the shows.

Just noticed this thread. I have an AWL dog too. Get this - Border Collie X Irish Wolfhound X ???? We bought him as a BC X and he seemed just that - soft coat, black and white, sweet face etc etc until he started growing....and boy did he grow, and grow, and GROW! By the time he was 6 months, he was about a metre tall at the shoulder, had a wire coat and grew his lovely hairy face. Luckily, he stopped growing there but because of the size mistake, he was thought to be a 12 week old BC when we got him and they had already desexed him! Turns out the poor bugger was knackered at 5 weeks of age!!! (the teeth at "16" weeks was a give away - he still had all his baby teeth and no sign of big boy teeth). Anyway, he is now 3, and our gorgeous man with the divine nature and a penchant for licking little tiny puppies. Also an excellent teaser for the bitches -seems his early desexing hasn't quelled any urges! One for the purebreds though - he has luxating patellas and the bones in one his back legs are completely deformed vet said he'd never seen anything like it except in Chi's - and commented slyly that he didn't think there was any Chi in him! As for your food issue, stick with your bikkies, though don't overdo it - most of these dry foods are now recommended to be used as a full meal with no extras and IMO you definitely need to feed raw meaty bones. My dogs, including the littlies, get Supercoat and chickens frames or necks. A big lamb or beef bone once a week to really have a good chew - it actually lasts all week once they've buried it, dug it up, swapped and buried it again! They also help themselves to our vege patch and prefer the pumpkins! Sorry for the long post but I just love a good luck rescue story!