The guy i know used pts as post track side a significant place to be for some trainers or owners he said he saw some not very nice things in the industry but he was above board he and his wife also ran a rspca approved foster home all animal related industries have thier bad and good but it's all driven by consumer demand i dont believe in cruelty towards any animal although on the other hand I can understand why some people do it greed is one reason (for mass producers) a sense of doing what they think is the right thing for the environment (as you where saying about saturday nights culling ferals) and lets not forget about callousness (as in the aholes who think it's stress relief to kick thier dogs) i understand why it happens but I don't condone it