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Help With Staffy Puppy Diet & Allergy
Jorgo replied to Jorgo's topic in Health / Nutrition / Grooming
I've just started Molly's own Instagram,....... Lol I have lots of snoozy happy photos, not so much awake ones.... She tends to look possessed in photos .. Nothing but a face blur lol I can give you puppy in a tutu? Lol. Says, thanks for that, we were looking at Mark shipstine ships something .... Who is a lecture red at qld uni ... He's one of the specialists at the emergency hospital we took her to. I agree it's probably a best bet. It's on our list of to do. :) -
Help With Staffy Puppy Diet & Allergy
Jorgo replied to Jorgo's topic in Health / Nutrition / Grooming
Ok thanks Sandra . -
Help With Staffy Puppy Diet & Allergy
Jorgo replied to Jorgo's topic in Health / Nutrition / Grooming
Oh and the homemade food did have lots of different dog allowed veg in it, untill the exclusion diet, and since the only veg tested was carrot peas corn and potatoes, and all those are apparently fine we were letting the hives settle down before testing one veg a week. Out of interest, if blue and blue brindle are known for even worse then normal staffy skin, what colour is a good colour? We do want to get Molly a brother at the end of the year and we may as well try for less problematic version. -
Help With Staffy Puppy Diet & Allergy
Jorgo replied to Jorgo's topic in Health / Nutrition / Grooming
Thanks for the comments guys. Yes she is a blue brindle. I will have to look into that... Thanks for the heads up. Dad was blue mum is copper and white. No I won't be recommending the breeders at all . After contacting her she claims to "never have heard of allergies in dogs" and none of her dogs or puppies have ever had issues... ( 3 other litters) Yeah right ok whatever. Everyone knows about staffy skin! Papers and impressive pedigree wasn't an important factor for us and we THOUGHT we did enough research and question asking regarding the parents and previous pups , but I suppose we didn't account for ignorance and or outright lying and stupidity. We've had staffies before and staffy cross. We've had skin issues and hotspots , just NEVER this bad. And it's been a long while since we've had a puppy. She's a happy pup otherwise and as long as she doesn't snuffle up the No NO foods while at the inlaws ( this is very hard to police with 6 kids under 7 running around I'm doing my best I'm usually a step behind her while we are there, but her being a part of family functions like the other family dogs is important for us ) then we mostly don't have issues . We've been good for the last month or so. and I had intentions of mostly making her food and feeding raw anyhow ... But for ease when she was being minded , if we were away, wanted to have her happy to eat store bought as well. Yes we tried the roo , I made a batch , for one meal. And whether it was a coincidence or not that night she had runny poops 4-5 in about 3 hours span. I froze the rest of the batch. I will try another meal of it again soon. After seeing the numbers I had intentions of swapping to roo and pork. Yes cazablanca, she looks very amstaff at the moment, both parents very English looking tho. Our last dog was amstaff X kelpie and had very similar face shape Persephone , I'm very careful not to put food in the bowl within 30 minutes of her indicating hunger or shuffling her bowls around. The last thing I want is a dog having a personal chef on command ! If a "tantrum" happens I try to go even longer before food appears. Try to have her sit on her bed for a while hopefully have atleast a 20 minute nap before any food is put infront of her. ... Trying to find a supliments that doesn't have kelp in it is hard. I have been looking, they all seem to have atleast one thing on her list. Sandra , thanks for all that, floors are cleaned with a steam cleaner. And if really dirty vinegar and bicarb. ( I'm mostly chemical free here for my own allergies) wood and vinyl floors here. The vets dentist surgeon guy said jaw mis alignment was a higher probability if leaving the baby canines in . It's so hard making these choices we can only do so much googling before we can only take the opinion of the vets we choose to trust ( she's never steered us wrong in our other animals previously) Thanks everyone for your opinions, time for some googling. -
hi guys, my friend suggested i come here and ask the masterminds here. and i appologise in advance its going to be long ( and i spell horribly when typing ;) ) as i want to put all the info i can remmeber/ corelate in one post. I have a 19w female english staffy pup with fairly severe allergies. alot of them food related and im struggling with diet/ nutrent uptake? and was looking for some help on what an " appropriate" sized meal based on her age/ size / diet requirements. we bought molly home at just over 7w. shes not got papers. both parents look healthy and had great personalities calm and friendly. we spent over an hour with them. the owners answered no at the question of any health issues or problems. they sent us home with a little baggy of the biscits she was already eating ( hills science diet) fairly soon (8w4days)we had some issues with vomiting and explosive diarrhea that would not stop . we rushed her to the emergency vet. they were worried about and tested for pavo. all negative. they watched her and gave her some meds overnight to stop vomiting and released her the next evening with a "probably just a tummy virus, we cant find anything, here feed her some hills science diet puppy can food to go with the hills puppy biscuits" the she was a little down fr the next 32 hrs or so but perked up and continued on with occasional sloppy poops now and then we had initially decided that we were going to give lots of quality and store brand and style varied diet with cans ,loaf, homemade, biscuits, and raw. primarliy to prevent severe pickiness. and to give a variety of options. we continued giving her different brands of puppy foods and i made homemade mix with chicken or meats with vegies and rice all cooked together. she didnt seem to be eating much to us. didnt seem enough but wasnt really interested. also seemed a bit " uncoordinated" when eating half chewing then spitting out then finishing off. at 9w 3days she went for her 9 week vax, which she had, and the vet noticed her teeth were not closing aligned and were causing pain to gums. vet recommended they were removed as soon as possible before they abcess. two days later ( friday) lower canine baby teeth were removed and just in time as it was noted the top gums they were impacting were starting to abcess. she was also neutered at this time. 3 days later she as very perky and eating much more and happily. obviously the teeth were bothering her she was back up to " recomended intake" on all food it was at this time ( sunday night) the hives started. hives this was midnight after she ate at about 8pm. we initially were thinking it may be the green ants in the garden. or food. i was leaning to food. the next day it looked like this hives 9 hrs later the vet suggested keeping her locked inside for a week to see if it was the garden ( we know thats common with staffy skin) and to keep her diet fairly static with the same foods every day and that hills science was fine. and to give her half a zyrtec 12 hours apart when she had a hive attack.. the zyrtec didnt really do much took the edge off when the attacks were bad that was all. the hives continued with ocasional soft poop. milder reactions but still annoying you can see the bumps in her fur here... fur hives we then decided to have an allergy blood test as the hives wernt stopping. around that time i came across an australian made brand that seemed it would be good for allergies... ivory coat puppy in chicken ivory coat we swapped to this along with homemade chicken or beef with rice and vegetables the hives slowed to only 3-5 every couple of days instead of a belly full daily while waiting for the blood test to come back ( 2 weeks) the vet advised to feed her only chicken and rice. i asked what if she was allergic to rice, and was informed that was unlikely. since it didnt appear to be garden based allergies we fenced off areas of plants and allowed her back outside on the grass. the hives continued on a small scale of 2-5 every few days. the test results came back with very high reactions to a lot of things. here is the allergy report. a " severe allergy" is 99 or higher. things in the 80s and 90s are things that need monitoring allergy results if you are unable to see the picture mid 100s for several types of grasses and weeds willow trees and acacia trees. almost 200s on several molds dust mites 198 beef 94 venison 194 chicken 94 pork 91 kanga 54 lamb 87 turkey 90 a high allergy to RICE 126 brewers yeast 199 milk and kelp and white fish and a large allergy to canola oil and tobacco smoke so from those results i was advised to stop the chicken and rice ( i just knew it , knew thered be a rice issue) try barley and oats with chicken and continue with the ivory coat. be sure not to use shop bought treats with training ( i make my own slow oven dried chicken "chips" which she loves, the cat loves, and actually i love LOL) and leave the diet fairly static till shes older ( over 9 months) and we can do another allergy test to see if shes grown out of some of the allergies. for her 16 week vax the vet wanted to keep her in and watch her incase the major reaction last time was her vax. she didnt react this time and didnt seem to get any hives within a week of the vax. so my question i need help with is what is an " apropriate" ammount of food. especially in the last 2 weeks shes been very very hungry. and i cant tell if its just normal staffy puppy greed, or shes not getting enough fats/nutrition to make her feel full. we ve also had a probelm with her eating her poop expecially later at night when she indicates shes hungry by checking her bowl area and then not getting food. the vet suggested zuchini in the food as that makes the poop bitter and less aletable . I know with humans that when you have alot of allergies you dont digest and extract nutrients apropriately. and often have a larger apetite and put on weight well. Molly is now 19 w very tall with long legs and long bodied and weight around 11kg at the moment. ( she puts on about a kg every 10days to 3 weeks) she doesnt appear fat at all, and every 2-4 days she actually looks like shes missed a few meals as her ribs are sticking out. this was her tis morning. her paws can reach the top of a kitchen bench fairly easily as a height reference. the front grate in this image is hip height on me. molly today a normal day consists of breakfast of half a cup ivory coat and a handfull of boiled chicken diced finely ( usually around 9 am ish - sometimes earlier like 6am if hubby has early shift and molly gets out of bed when he leaves) by about midday ( earlier if hubby fed her at 6) shes hungry again. she shows this by digging at her empty ceramic bowl and picking it up and moving it around the house. around then shell get about a cup full of oats/barley and chicken with zucchini , this week i added carrot and coconut oil sometimes she really really wants a second lunch about an hour afterwards depending on the first lunch time. i will give her a half a cup- a full cup of ivory coat biscuits ( their suggestion is around 2 cups a day for her size so by now shes never more then 1.5 cups) around 2-4 we do training and commands and play and shell get lots of chicken jerky chips ( chips are about half a 5 cent coin) from around 5 shes circling for food. around now she starts "throwing tantrums" doing things shes knows shes not allowed to or supposed to ( today it was tearing up clean pee pads , into shreds) in between these little tantrum shes checking her bowl. i try to stretch dinner closer to about 6 pm dinner is another cup of oats/ barley chicken mix. lately ( 2-3 weeks) shes wanting desperately a second serve of dinner by about 7 pm. so when shes stopped digging around the food area i'll give her the last 1/2 cup of ivory coat and some chicken or some more mix. depending on our personal schedule ( im a photographer and i edit at night to quite late, and hubby works shifts and often can either be starting or finishing at 11pm so i will often be cooking food around 10pm) she starts getting quite insistent on getting some more food for herself. i have started giving her a little chicken or mix at around 11. shes seems content to sleep the night then. so any help from those in the indepth know of dog diets and nutrient requrements how much and if shes getting what shes needs. it was suggested to me by my friend that she doesnt need the bulk of oats or barley, that she wouldnt digest it well. but if i removed the oats and barley id either have to double the ivory coat or maybe tripple the chicken.... and i might go bankrupt if i had to triple the chicken. any help gratefully read. molly says thank you ! if you made it this far you need a medal :D hank you so much