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electric is the only way to stop a jumper/climber. If the pound didnt know he was a jumper, they should right now. Call them and tell them what he is doing.

vets all natural joint formula contains green lipped muscle, its only about $50 for 500g container.

2 more weeks till puppy comes home *sniff sniff sniff*

big big meaty bones, like the beef leg bones and feed less for a little so the dog has to sit there and scrape away. It's my trick to getting baby teeth out, never had a dog need them extracted. Works well on the ferrets too :laugh:

Eagle Pack giant is available here at pet stores. It helped my Bordeaux with his bad feet and legs very well.

DO you work for Bayer? Or are you just argumentative for the sake of it. Actually preventing shedding is not the same as treating a Giardia infection. Treatment means that you are actually stopping further progression of an infection and reducing the numbers of the disease causing agent to negligable levels that will no longer cause disease symptoms in the animal. Worming every 3 months will not cure a giardia infection - you're just trying to prevent shedding of oocysts into the dogs faeces which in turn may infect people, and THAT factor is a greater primary concern of the tablet, not treating the dog. The percentage of dogs that actually have Giardia is small. It's just another parasite we're going to help create chemical resistance to in the long term like we have done with other parasites. From Drontals own website: You can only use their product as a 'treatment' per say IF you speak to a veterinarian, have it diagnosed and under their supervision of use because you're super loading the dog with the tablets over a few days, if not longer depending on what the vet can then tell you to do. There;s no need to be titchy with me I've been in science and animal industry for a decade now, I know about scientific testing procedures and I also know their pitfalls when it comes to a product being released. The process is not infallibe, it never has been in human or animal products. I also know what advertising means. I know veterinarians who have totally moved away from using or selling Drontal in their clinics as they DONT find it effective as some others, and they are good vets who have been in their profession for decades.

so you're fulfilling the animal's expectations that the collar/handling will be unpleasant and hence have an even greater uphill battle getting the dogs to learn otherwise, as they now have a definite experience of what they probably will consider positive punishment. behaviorally speaking the word is aversive, adversive means the opposite of what you expect.

most dogs will see it as a mild aversive, that is my experience too. I'm surprised if you are allowed to use it on the greys where you work, if you create dogs that suddenly becomes handler/collar shy because of it your boss won't be happy. And of that there is a big chance particularly in dogs that have limited experience in handling and training techniques.

Drontal has great marketing, as do some other brands that are number one - that figure goes on sales, not that it really is the 'best' per say. It doesn't cure Giardia, I know that and neither does the Jurox tablet. They added it to prevent shedding of Giardia which really, I dont see the reason for. But since changing to minimise the Giardia shedding more people are having problems. and to me that is rather round about. What does one consider minimal side effects? Not dropping dead on the spot or having long term physical effects from one tablet? Conversely on paper they could not conclusively prove that some side effects were caused by the product or not enough dogs in the test group showed that symptom to consider it something to worry about - But an owner will worry when their dog is not right after administering a product. Laboratory testing and real world scenarios are two different things.

The problem is we care too much about what everyone thinks. And in doing that we keep narrowing and narrowing what is acceptable. Eventually we're going to care ourselves out of existence. If I want to train my dog to do Schutzhund, ringsport, PP whatever I dont see why it's Joe Blows business if the dog is not causing a problem. The dogs out there mauling people and animals are ill bred untrained mongrels NOT properly bitework trained animals which have self control and know right from wrong. Once people start seeing that, and the benefits these sports will actually bring to the canine population the world will be more sane. Instead the stupid people are talking for the rest of the population and some breeders/clubs out there are following the same stupid sentiment. The korning test is not that the dog IS capable of doing the work, but that is shows the capacity to proceed on and TRY training. Whether is completes or not is a whole different thing and the completion and proving of the skill is what people look for in these types of breeds in particular. There is nothing in the Korning that shows the dog is something spectacular to breed from. We can do BH test here in Australia, but it's just the beginning to go onto other things, not the be all and end all. A test for breed function should prove in at least some way the dog is physically and mentally capable of doing the job it was bred for. They don't have to be titled. We forget a lot of the original breeding of working dogs WAS there because training was going to be minimal. People didnt have all the time we luxuriously have now to train their dogs, the animal had to show a lot of aptitude from an early age which in turn made the whole process easier.

actually companion dogs should be tested for handleability, a good nature, good nerve and high tolerance of human contact. Too many small dogs with temperaments totally opposite to what makes a good companion dog.

http://hem.passagen.se/sparring/mental/korningen.htm

To do a generalised test like that would then extend outside guarding breeds. Bitework has its own merits as a tester, there are things you cannot prove without seeing the dog bite. There is more to it then pure prey work as well and in that ideal the dogs can be mated to produce different types of working animals. Within some breeds there is a difference between civil working animals and sport animals - you dont mix the two in some instances as it doesnt produce good pups. Plenty of dogs out there with a lot of prey, but woeful bites, and conversely those with a lower prey but fabulous bite and guarding skills. If we keep accepting alternatives our quality will slip, which it has in a lot of cases. That Korning test on paper looks to have a lot of merit, but from that video ... I wouldn't touch that dog to work with a 10 foot pole

yup it's a male, his name is Boyan. He is full brother to my youngest from the new litter, same parents just over a year apart in age. So that makes 3 working line Malinois I'm a nutter ... he's almost as big as his sister already at almost 14 weeks! this is Boyan and Rogues father, Schwarchund Vihor (Mako) ... Makos breeder reckons Boyan will be close in size ... *eep*

mmmmmmm in a couple of weeks ... and take a stab as to what I am getting ;) this should help :D

you see what gets me about things like that is they're missing a whole other world of what you would call extreme ... the dogs in that video are comparatively healthy compared to what some people breed mmmm bogan breeding ... sometimes standards can be a good thing for some dogs

*meanders slowly into thread* so, uh, looks like I should be joining hey ...

teela I envy you ... my older Malinois is the only one who that doesnt work on no matter how long she potters about on concrete and bitumen. She's a shocker, so I use a dremel too.

no I beat that ... was a quiet day at the clinic and my dog was there so I decided to snip her nails. I took off a snifter of a millimeter too far and blood everywhere. Then while I turn my back she wanders around the room. So I get the mop and bucket, she's squirting because the Condis have done nothing ... then a group of official visitors pop in ... unannounced ... me with a mop and blood everywhere ... Mina standing there like 'it was HER! SHEEEEE DID THIS TOO ME!' and ran up for a sook :rolleyes:

If you're near Geelong I have a behavioral school ;)

Drontal and Jurox brand now both do for Giardia which I'm not happy with. http://www.greyhoundproductsdirect.com.au/products_ranvet.htm I use the Ranvet ones when I have to, a LOT cheaper then Drontal too. Just crush it in with food or hide in tossed treats for the fusspots.

Not on my lot, too thick skinned I have had one implanted into the fleshy part of my thumb once so I know exactly what they feel like anyway :laugh:

if you're using the Drontals or Chews it's probably due to the Giardia chemical they have added in there. I use a generic Ranvet allwormer, no problems at all IF I have to use it. I wont use anything for Giardia.

what comparative legal clout does the AWLNSW have compared to say, the RSPCA?

look at the Coopet ones on the pet pacific website