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not at all. I do know that protection training and things like Shutzhund are two very different things to a dog. BUT protection and shutzhund add an extra element of excitement for the dog. How many dogs do you see dragging their owners into the shutzhund club in excitement at just getting one go. You can't tell me that a dog doing these persuits is going to be nonchalant about the whole process - it encourages the dog to give more and at a greater intensity, whereas straight obedience does not require that level of stimulation from the dog. Although more people should be doing shutzhund and other specialised dogsports but that's just a personal opinion. No way every schutzhund dog will be a good PP dog, I also understand the difference between a dog doing 'sport' and a dog doing 'work' per say. But why not train a perfectly capable dog in schutzhund? I see no problem with that if the OP has already owned a PP dog before then maybe he has a reasonable idea about it and would enjoy it. He is also willingly asking for advice about what is the best direction from his dog which I see as a good sign. I was giving a possible explanation as to why a dog may have been 'better' in the owners eyes then the one who just did obedience. DO you mean defense and prey, or the actual item that is the focus of the dog. If you are saying that all prey times are equal reward ultimately for the dog then I have a couple of dogs sitting here begging to differ with you :rolleyes:

I highly recommend Southern Cross K9 over the others Address Lawson Poole Reserve Lesdon Avenue CRANBOURNE 3977 Contact Details Mrs Lynne MacDonald Phone (AH): 5995 1268 John McDonald is a member of the Rottweiler Club as well. I've had a bit to do with PP and Schutzhund and by far they are the best ethically. Conversely if you're ever down Geelong way pop down with your pups and I can give you some pointers. I visit werribee sometimes too

K9 I mean a dog that just does repetitive obedience when it genetics can do much more. how many breeds have in the standard "not good with repetitive work". Chop and change and the dog will do something. Protection training works on defense as well as prey drive so the dog gets more out of it then just doing obedience for a tug toy, treat or pat.

protection training is not legal in victoria unless you are a licenced security guard and training with a company. Your dog will have to be classed as a dangerous dog and comply by the law. Not me, the law. PM me if you got any questions about your pup ETA : Knucklebuster I may know what you mean. A dog with a 'job' is more enthusiastic about responding for you then a dog that does repetitive obedience for the sake of it.

he is a member of DOL so send him a PM. He is under Charles Kuntz

many dogs are lactose intolerant and I never give cows milk blergh ... some yoghurt is OK yes doggies will do things like that ... actually you want heart attack I got home one day and my Belgian bitch was hopping about carrying her hind leg - the skin was torn open and a huge flap was hanging off. She had a toy like 'I made whoopsie but I've got 3 others to walk on!" 3 vet clinics, 9 hrs and $800 later

eh milk? hope not cows milk or your in for some stinky farts yeah I have a rotty that eats anything within reach. plastic bags, eggs (once a whole dozen including shells and carton) rubbish, dog toys, grass, etc etc it all passes through in a multitude of rainbow poos... oh yes he ate a whole candle once too. It was a vanilla pillar candle apparently very tasty as he demolished most of it whilst we were asleep. Yup white chunky poo for a while I only buy natural candles anyway so its not a big deal.

I'd worry about any place that needed to put rat bait under the BED was it a barn or a house!?!?! How disgusting if dogs are allowed INSIDE they should warn you. Kymbo is correct you cannot have poisons lying around unmarked or within reach of children/animals on a commercial premesis. Maybe a phone call to WorkSafe as well might give them a boot up the bum. They were horribly negligent as most baits are animal attracting and rodents carry it to all corners of the premesis so you cannot even claim you have the poison 'contained'. Shame on them I hope they pay your bills and apologise.

dont panic - the dog would have had to have ingested a rediculous amount or had a condition that predisposed him to illness. Liver contains high amounts of Vitamin A (retinol) which can kill. Hence people who consume carnivores do NOT eat the livers as their retinol level is much higher then that in herbivores. Iron poisoning is not that common either and again the dog could have had a pre-existing illness or already had elevated iron levels before ingestion. This is rare and my large dogs have had quite large amounts of dry liver without ill effects. The first for both Vit A and Iron overdose is stomach irritation and a lot of vomiting as the stomach tries to get rid of it quickly.

what is his normal diet and feeding routine is there any visitors, special things that happen in the 2-3 days leading up to his attacks where is the dirt he eats? He sounds deficient can you post a photo of him?

I got a Speedrite power pack 5km. %km and up plugs into the mains power the others use car batteries (which you have to replace and cost $$ unless you have them lying around) that cost me about $190 for the power pack then the plastic posts were $5 each the 'ping string' 200m roll cost me $35. I like the string because its visible and once the dog learns that the white string means zappies you can put up fake string like I have around my vege garden. I bought normal white string and the dogs eye it off suspiciously. What you will also need is a steel rod (go to bunnings or the metal recyclers) or at least 2 shorter ones. You need to hammer this into the ground (not near your metal water pipes or electrical cables or you'll cause problems) and attach the 'earth' green wire from your power pack. Then you attach the red 'live' wire to your set up fence. Remember your fence has to be a big loop in order to work as well. If there are really dry dead spots then hammer more earth stakes deeper and you'll feel the zap. Mine was rubbish at the start and i thought I was ripped off as the earth was so dry. Tried a different metal pole (not galvanised, just steel pole) and OH went to touch it ... he jumped a mile! The DDB actually used the fence as a bum massage when it was weak it was hilarious - then didnt realise we have fixed it and zapped himself in the butt. Trust me if it keeps back a working Malinois and an entire mastiff then it will work with yours. Let him get a couple of zaps it wont cause him harm (I've had a few myself gardening) ETA if he's a jumper you can also get these : there are different types of offset insulators that will attach to your fence with little to no permanent damage if you're in a rental. If he hops the short fence you can attach this along the top or up the fence so he avoids it completely.

general electric fence set up like I have in my yard - the 'shock tape' type stuff low to the ground

YAY HE PASSED!!!! :o Skoota and Diesel both passed their test today to become a therapy dog! At the end of the month I do a course and then we get started Such a good boy! Well D was a little naughty and jumped up on the instructor a little but he WAS an excited rottweiler what where they expecting he does have 12 months of illness to catch up on

sounds like you need a professional trainer to get you on the right track I second the electric fence idea or a secure dog run when you cannot be with him. what area are you in

I find RC to be good but the protein is about the 30% mark so will bulk up a dog. You could still go the large breed RC and some chicken carcasses Mine are all getting fat at the moment on a pure RC diet (well and they're slowing down because they think the warmer weather means whack on a pair of sunglasses and stretch on the banana lounge the lazy sods!) so its being supplemented with low cal stuff.

chain leads are heavy, are not comfortable, cannot provide control and if you one day correct risk hitting the dog in the face with it. Seen it happen. Train your pup and leave those horrible chain leads. I dont know why people sell them.

dont decide for the dog what training you will do. You let the dogs behavior dictate which direction you go in. Its a dog and it wants food - you are making a more difficult and convoluted job by trying to make a dog come away from easy pickings to something of higher value. Hard to proof as well. BUT the point of being reprimanded or corrected or whatever you chose - the pup accepts you DO NOT take food unless you are told. Period. No weighing up the options it is taught snatching food from your child is unacceptable and hence you find dogs will not bother as much. IMO letting the dog know it will get something either way defeats the purpose - the dog can also decide well if I show interest in the child I'll get something really good. Whereas a dog that tries to follow the child and gets a good "aaagghhhh NO - LEAVE" thinks "whoah OK there's a no no" Dogs are like children they need to learn boundries and consequences to their actions and that wont happen if we keep giving them something better or constantly providing treats. Yeah I'm old fashioned too but there is nothing wrong with that if you are not causing the dog harm.

wipe some hot chilli or bitterant spray on the lead and let the pup chew. dogs learn so much faster when they discover things for themselves

The only reason I dont go straight for JD is just because a dog has mobility problems does not mean it needs the same base food. Some dogs need reduced calorie, some need more oils, some need more protein and some, like my rott, have skin/gut problems and do poorly on the food. about 18% protein and 15% fat. The protein comes from chicken by product meal which is not even the first ingredient on the list! Very pricey and i find i can achieve the same with human supplements, chicken carcasses and royal canin.

I should elaborate Great Dane Burnese Mountain Dog Black Russian Terrier Giant Schnauzer Mastiff (DDB, Neo, BM etc etc) Boerboel Irish Wolfhound Newfoundland St Bernard You could get away with some of these in there too Rottweiler American Bulldog Leonberger Anatolian/Kangal Bandog Bull Arab depending on lines and what the breeder recommends. There are some rotties out there that grow larger then DDBs!

mastiff breeds are considered giant especially because of their bone structure and slow growth.

just to show how big Diesel is and his crooked hind leg. I think that hock has collapsed completely and will never go back to normal surprise surprise Diesel is scratching he's a tad bald in places which I think we're just going to have to live with Oh yeah and for those with super sight he DOES have a lump on his front paw. He tripped down the steps over a month ago and now has a large lump still there. Doesnt hurt, doesnt restrict him so I'm not touching it the vet has had a look and manipulation she thinks its the tendon. The bones are OK *sigh* showing that hind leg - it doesnt seem to cause him pain and its actually a LOT better then it looked a couple of months ago such a show off isnt he like every rotty. we went for a walk on Friday through the city, only a short one but it was a little much for him. He adored his cuddles from everyone, one German lady gushed all over him she loved Rotties. Its hard to stop he, he is desperate to go for walks and he's at that age where he literally scratches the door down to go out but he cant. He struggles to get about after a while but he pushes to go more and more I dont want to say 'no Diesel no more for this week' because he doesnt understand. He struggled back to the car on Friday and even when we got home he cooled down and woofed at the roller door in the garage "where we going mummy!" Deedle the dag.

no no no no no do NOT put her to sleep. #1 find yourself a good chiropractic/acupuncture holistic vet - people here should be able to recommend someone in Sydney. I have mine in Geelong and she is literally a life saver #2 get that dog skinny. She needs to be thin and i mean THIN. Put her on a good adult dog food, raw if possible and do not starve her. Get yourself some joint suppliments (I use fish oil capsules and glucosamine 1500+ chondroitin) #3 physical therapy. She needs to be able to hold herself up so build muscle. Pool, dam, beach, shallow river just wade her in up to her elbows. It supports her but forces her to use her back legs. My rottweiler was meant to be euthanased at 10 months of age. He is nearly 13 months old now and he has completely been taken off his pain medication (150mg A DAY) which caused more suffering for him. I bit the bullet took him to Dr Lim and reduced his meds and massaged every day. I did physical therapy, moved his limbs for him and skinnied him up. Today he can bounce, hop about, play and even go for an hour walk - 3 months ago I had to lift him to even go pee and he screamed if he even lay wrong on his bed. He lost his appetite from the anti inflammatories and I was hand feeing him. Nope do NOT give up. There are people out there who may be able to help, dont make a decision yet. ETA My old boss was meant to be a highly regarded vet for HD/ED and was also PennHip qualified. He looked at the X-rays and just walked off on me. Another vet even looked at me tearily and we both new he was due for euth since he barely has hip sockets. On the other hand, Dr Lim had a look at 'Oh he is pretty bad isnt he ... oh well he'll just take a bit longer to fix then' and she was very very right. He was off the meds in a couple of months completely and I didnt let him sook I made him get up and walk about to stop his body just falling apart - the vet called him a bag of bones there was nothing holding him together. the little poo head today - literally today being cheeky and tormenting Skoota. Dont give up, go get another opinion.

stay away form Orijen then I cant believe the levels in a large breed puppy food - 42% protein and 16% fat RC will do me

he needs an elizabethan collar then some betadine solution. The iodine solution dries it faster. If he has long hair clip around it and extend the margin of iodine by at least half a centimeter around the wound edge to prevent it getting larger. Don't remove the collar until you see it has started healing properly and you supervise him with it off. Hotspots are basically superficial bacterial skin infections that become hot, irritated and moist. They are usually circular shaped hence being called a hot spot. The longer your dog licks the more they push infection into the deeper tissue layers so as soon as you see licking put a bucket collar on the dogs head.