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Because her reaction was not normal (whatever that means) doesn't give the police the right to over-react. Perhaps talking and reasoning should have been attempted first. If she had mental health issues, which her behaviour would suggest, there are other ways to deal with it other than wrestling her to the ground and handcuffing her. Some people with mental health issues, such as anxiety or depression, can be irrational and are easily frightened and feel threatened on the slightest provocation.

Hi I did the survey and I must say that I found it difficult to discriminate between some of the choices. For example a dog being stressed is to me very similar to a dog being nervous. Good luck with your research

You so realise that she assaulted a police officer? Just because you are a female doesn't mean that you can act like that and expect no consequences. I am not saying there should be no consequences. I think the police could have handled the situation better. I am agreeing with Mrs RB.

It's ironic that we are talking about violence against women and it took 4 policemen to manhandle one woman. (The link to the video is no longer working but that was my understanding from memory.) I think the police need to learn better ways to deal with similar situations. Better communication would be a start.

I felt sorry for her too Powerlegs. Sometimes I think police do go over the top and I hate hearing someone scream like that. She may have known about the murder before she left for her walk and possibly she was already churned up with her own reactions. She may have been frightened or anxious or may herself have been the victim of DV.

Being young maybe she's an ice addict.

I am not too sure I would be thrilled to find access to my house denied after returning from a walk. Maybe I had something in the oven or maybe I was expecting a phone call or maybe I just needed to go to the loo urgently. :) Maybe she had an issue with the police. Maybe she was having a bad day anyway. ETA Maybe she was a vile evil woman or maybe she had mental health issues.

What did they do with her dogs?

As someone who has a hearing loss I do like this approach. Deaf dogs/people are easily startled.

Thank you Kavik and TSD, that is so helpful and yes TSD she does parade any toys I give her and I am trying to convince my middle dog that the pup's toys are not for sharing. Putting her outside with her own bone is a good idea especially now that the weather is picking up.

Thank you for the replies. Will she need a GA to have her tooth removed? HW I try to give her lots of toys but I have a problem that my other dog destroys just about every toy I bring into the house in a few minutes. She learnt this from another dog that I used to have. The only toys that survive here are black kongs. It's also hard to give the pup chewy food or stuffed kongs because the other dogs would want them too. I know you have a multi dog household. How do you cope? I am trying to spend quality time with her and she is sitting on my knee now as I type but I don't want to neglect my other dogs (especially my 13yo old boy) so they need time too. It's also hard to train when you have more than one dog. All advice welcome. The pup is going to training (CDC) and is doing well.

I have a new pup (ten months old - I have only had her for six weeks) and she still has a first front tooth sitting in front of her permanent one. She is also incredibly destructive, chewing everything up which includes my doona, dog beds, socks, shoes, my glasses, books, the arm of my desk chair, etc. I am wondering if she had the first tooth removed would it help with the chewing? I thought that perhaps it is nature's way of helping her to lose it. Perhaps the tooth should be removed anyway. Advice please.

Thanks for explaining. I own dogs that some people might describe as small fluffies (although none of them are white). They are all rescues and are very well behaved and attend or have attended obedience classes. I have also owned bull breeds in the past. I love all dogs, as I am sure do other posters as well. :)

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Really why do we have to start on the SWFs or even the black ones? :)

I only use dog parks if I am unwell and not able to walk my dogs and then it is only at non-peak times. I like to keep my dogs safe and I think dog parks can be dangerous places because of some of the idiot owners who use them. I have even seen people drop their dogs off and drive away, returning to pick them up with a car laden with their shopping.

Wobbly that is a very interesting post. Thank you. I just wonder though how you can judge someone just by what they write in a newspaper where they are presenting themselves as a persona, a marketable one which is possibly not genuine. For example I do some writing and I am the author of a short story about a footy mum who goes on to the ground and assaults another player because he hit her son. It is written in the first person and so many people think I am the mother in the story and I'm not. it's just something I witnessed one day as a spectator. The perils of first person point of view. :)

Some of the comments are illogical and the language is so cliche. For example: She gets rid of pups because she doesn't like cleaning up after them. The cleaning up is worse for a pup than an adult dog. (I have a pup here and the cleaning up is non-stop. Hopefully she will grow out of it SOON) The daughter's reaction. What mother could make light of a broken-hearted daughter? If it was real I think she would leave that part out or even choose to forget it. She also mentions the dog looking at her accusingly as it is driven away. If it was real she wouldn't mention this or she would not read it this way. She would say the dog was delighted to leave. Then she jumps to Juno shedding hair all over the sofa when the original beef was the dog escaping. She kept her first dog for 10 years. Why the change? Albus was aggressive. Why? Because she thought he had staffy in him? The heartless way she talks about her dog attacking the elderly neighbour's westie. (There would have been legal repercussions). Then she rehomes same dog to a family with 2 cats and 5 children. No-one could be so irresponsible. The same for the dog that attacked livestock. The neighbours would have been screaming at her unless they were her own animals. "If I'm naughty Mum will you rehome me too?" A child would not actually say this. It is just something that some adults say the child must be thinking. cliche: doe-eyed little puppy, a dog is a man's best friend, etc There is no originality. The 4 dogs misbehave in all the usually reported ways - being too messy, escaping, aggressive, digging, killing livestock, counter surfing, and none of them repeat the misdemeanors of the earlier dogs which you would expect. An ad (video) for Dogs' Trust pops up on my screen saying that a dog is forever, not just for Christmas. I don't know why these ads pop up and whether everyone gets the same one, but it suggests to me that the article was sponsored by a dog rescue group. Puppies might toilet inside but they tend not to maul sheep, jump fences or attack other dogs. "Mess" does not just mean chewed up papers or poo in the house. Also, the Dogs Trust video was not a paid ad on the page, it was placed as a video there because it was relevant to the story. This isn't a story about someone who just casually discards adult dogs because she's grown tired of them, these dogs have all had some serious behavioural issues (not that those issues excuse her dumping them). I don't know why some people feel the need to see conspiracy or trickery behind every corner. It was an article written by a woman about her experiences as a (bad) pet owner, not some veiled pushing of agendas or anything else. Seriously I said that my gut feeling is that it is a hoax and SG asked me to explain. As I said I have no idea why the ad pops up on my page. I don't understand such things. It's unfair to accuse me of seeing trickery and conspiracy everywhere (but of course you said some people didn't you? ie you didn't mean me.) I have no doubt that some people rehome their dogs on a whim. I just don't believe this article. Have a nice day! I appreciate the explanation sars :) and I can see where you're coming from. I don't know what to make of this woman. I did a bit of reading about her last week because I couldn't believe someone would seriously say the things she says in her columns. There was obviously negativity towards her not only for what she writes but also for how she constantly puts her kids in the public eye (there are lots of pictures of them out there) but there was also something about her apparently telling people not to believe everything they read in response to criticism, so maybe she does make things up or exaggerate things. I'm just not quite clear on what she's trying to achieve by it though Thanks SG When I read the second article about being reported for abusing her children I decided that she is probably just exaggerating to get her readers to respond to her articles. She seems to be a bit of a twit as far as I am concerned.

Some of the comments are illogical and the language is so cliche. For example: She gets rid of pups because she doesn't like cleaning up after them. The cleaning up is worse for a pup than an adult dog. (I have a pup here and the cleaning up is non-stop. Hopefully she will grow out of it SOON) The daughter's reaction. What mother could make light of a broken-hearted daughter? If it was real I think she would leave that part out or even choose to forget it. She also mentions the dog looking at her accusingly as it is driven away. If it was real she wouldn't mention this or she would not read it this way. She would say the dog was delighted to leave. Then she jumps to Juno shedding hair all over the sofa when the original beef was the dog escaping. She kept her first dog for 10 years. Why the change? Albus was aggressive. Why? Because she thought he had staffy in him? The heartless way she talks about her dog attacking the elderly neighbour's westie. (There would have been legal repercussions). Then she rehomes same dog to a family with 2 cats and 5 children. No-one could be so irresponsible. The same for the dog that attacked livestock. The neighbours would have been screaming at her unless they were her own animals. "If I'm naughty Mum will you rehome me too?" A child would not actually say this. It is just something that some adults say the child must be thinking. cliche: doe-eyed little puppy, a dog is a man's best friend, etc There is no originality. The 4 dogs misbehave in all the usually reported ways - being too messy, escaping, aggressive, digging, killing livestock, counter surfing, and none of them repeat the misdemeanors of the earlier dogs which you would expect. An ad (video) for Dogs' Trust pops up on my screen saying that a dog is forever, not just for Christmas. I don't know why these ads pop up and whether everyone gets the same one, but it suggests to me that the article was sponsored by a dog rescue group. Puppies might toilet inside but they tend not to maul sheep, jump fences or attack other dogs. "Mess" does not just mean chewed up papers or poo in the house. Also, the Dogs Trust video was not a paid ad on the page, it was placed as a video there because it was relevant to the story. This isn't a story about someone who just casually discards adult dogs because she's grown tired of them, these dogs have all had some serious behavioural issues (not that those issues excuse her dumping them). I don't know why some people feel the need to see conspiracy or trickery behind every corner. It was an article written by a woman about her experiences as a (bad) pet owner, not some veiled pushing of agendas or anything else. Seriously I said that my gut feeling is that it is a hoax and SG asked me to explain. As I said I have no idea why the ad pops up on my page. I don't understand such things. It's unfair to accuse me of seeing trickery and conspiracy everywhere (but of course you said some people didn't you? ie you didn't mean me.) I have no doubt that some people rehome their dogs on a whim. I just don't believe this article. Have a nice day!

Some of the comments are illogical and the language is so cliche. For example: She gets rid of pups because she doesn't like cleaning up after them. The cleaning up is worse for a pup than an adult dog. (I have a pup here and the cleaning up is non-stop. Hopefully she will grow out of it SOON) The daughter's reaction. What mother could make light of a broken-hearted daughter? If it was real I think she would leave that part out or even choose to forget it. She also mentions the dog looking at her accusingly as it is driven away. If it was real she wouldn't mention this or she would not read it this way. She would say the dog was delighted to leave. Then she jumps to Juno shedding hair all over the sofa when the original beef was the dog escaping. She kept her first dog for 10 years. Why the change? Albus was aggressive. Why? Because she thought he had staffy in him? The heartless way she talks about her dog attacking the elderly neighbour's westie. (There would have been legal repercussions). Then she rehomes same dog to a family with 2 cats and 5 children. No-one could be so irresponsible. The same for the dog that attacked livestock. The neighbours would have been screaming at her unless they were her own animals. "If I'm naughty Mum will you rehome me too?" A child would not actually say this. It is just something that some adults say the child must be thinking. cliche: doe-eyed little puppy, a dog is a man's best friend, etc There is no originality. The 4 dogs misbehave in all the usually reported ways - being too messy, escaping, aggressive, digging, killing livestock, counter surfing, and none of them repeat the misdemeanors of the earlier dogs which you would expect. An ad (video) for Dogs' Trust pops up on my screen saying that a dog is forever, not just for Christmas. I don't know why these ads pop up and whether everyone gets the same one, but it suggests to me that the article was sponsored by a dog rescue group.

I think it's a hoax.

IMO it would take a powerful bite to remove a hand, even a small one. There is bone there. The way I see it is it is no longer relevant who is at fault. Putting the dog down will not give the child a new hand. But if the owners think the dog might do it again that is another story.

I have a dog who was the runt of the litter. When I met her she was the only pup left. :) I only found out later when I met her brother who was so much bigger and they had an enormous fight. She's okay but does have some health issues. I think people like to think they are rescuing a dog and in their eyes the poor little runt needs special protection. Rescuing a runt makes them feel good about themselves. Would I choose the runt of the litter if given the opportunity? No. That would not be what I would be looking for. I would be choosing the pup that responded to me.

Some posters don't seem to appreciate the enormity of what has happened. The child could live for another 72 years, a long time to be without a hand, and it was probably the dominant one. I knew a young man who had lost his hand in a work accident. Instead of a hand he had a hook. I used to wonder what it would be like being intimate with a man with a hook. Poor guy! Poor child! Also poor dog, poor owners, poor parents, and poor any spectators.