Lablover

I agree giving medication to any of our dogs is not ideal. Three of my old dogs were on long term pain relief medication so I had been educated on their use. All the same, if someone was not willing to spend the dollars (which is not the reason of this thread), I would suggest buffered aspirin. I keep an emergency canine medical kit in my vehicle and buffered aspirin is included.

I am a little late reading this thread. I am so sorry about your puppy.

As Steve posted earlier about the possible combined workshop - I discussed this with him earlier today and we have considered the dates maybe around April - late April, for the NSW seminar then followed by Victoria. Hey Tim, glad to hear from you, stay in touch and hopefully you can come to the Vic seminar. :rolleyes: Thanks everyone for your interest in search & rescue - it's a lot of hard work and commitment but a VERY satisfying discipline! No trophy, no title just a life saved! Cheers, Julie I hope you do not mind me starting another thread on the seminars, which would be fantastic. Any idea when the dates will be known?

Sardog hold a seminar!!!! I will help organise it if you like. Lardner Park at Gippsland? Lets go.........................My favourite topic, training using prey drive. Otherwise they tell me, there are some delightful B and Bs near K9 force, LOL. Jigetty, jig, jig.

Havens Example clearly shows how "NO" can be a punishment. Good job Haven It really depends on the dog. I think to a novice dog "no" doesnt mean much but to a trained dog it can be quite a punishment. I no no no my dogs quietly for bad choices. Obviously the dogs are into my own training program, which is very limited in physical corrections. Sorry to change the topic, but another reason why I am a little anti clicker as both correct and incorrect choices by other marker can cue the dog and help clarify our requirements. Regarding the topic at hand, non instant correction and praise are both a road for confusion.

You are a bad girl posting the link. I will be singing that song all night. I had heard of Fred in the past. A couple of retriever trainers viewed his methods.

Feral Sam is a much loved friend. She is also one of kindest people I have ever met. I am sure due to her excitement of seeing her own dogs improvement, she was only trying to help others. For sure. I am not going to mention how much money I have spent on learning how best to train my dogs and am more than happy to keep on spending. In a prior thread I previously mentioned, by attending K9's seminars, I have felt like killing him as he has expanded my knowledge in canine behaviour. It sure is frustrating as I am not a good overseas plane traveller and Steve K9 force was sitting here in Australia all that time. The bottom line is the original poster started a thread after concerns of her boss's labrador. By the thread I took it as he was not interested in putting effort (time and money) into the dog and some people until myself and others, expect as easy fix. Hey Feral Sam or K9 force, pleae send me the heeling information sheet. I want to see if it contains training in drive. Teaching dogs subconsciously is better than chocolate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe your boss can try to walk the dog more often. If he cannot take the dog to obedience maybe a professional dog walker (a cheaper option than a professional trainer which some people prefer) could help "train" his wife/dog. Obviously find someone experienced. Just another two options. Otherwise we know what will happen. The poor dog will be left for longer periods without being walked at all etc.

Excellent. Tell us about your dogs and training methods.

CJ He has being a normal puppy. CJ Yes it happened a long distances. Yes I was able to switch the youngster back into prey drive, by voice and assistance in the paddocks. As mentioned due to many exercises close to me, his sits were square to myself and re-focus was achieved. No head swinging and self hunting for example. Little stress as he had been conditioned to handle such. CJ, Dogs while hunting are used as a conservation tool. I am certainly concerned what the dog is doing, whilst hunting. Some, out of complete control thereby not doing their best. Breaking to shot being another danger. CJ, What do us silly trailers do, that is not in the best interest of the dog? CJ, Hunting is easy. Having a dog under control is a sight to behold.

Just thought I would add a couple of positives I personally achieved when training the one year old. He learnt obedience in prey drive, he stopped on the whistle regardless of distance, in water and over. He learnt hand signals (casting) easier than ever before. Had a great attitude to training, as when he became confused and lost focus, I could easily put him back into drive, and his selection on which mark to pick up and distractions were brilliant too. His holding of retrieves was very simple too. He has rehomed 4 months ago and his owner had continued his training, to the best of his ability. The lab has visited us on three occasions and every time he visits I cannot help myself by testing him. He has delighted me by keeping his good habits.

Dual purpose...fetches tennis balls and wags its tail. Multipurpose: fetches tennis balls AND frisbees, wags its tail, looks good in bandanna Correct conformation: has 4 legs and a tail Good disposition: Ugly as sin Hunt prospect: Ugly as sin and hyperactive Good with kids: only bites adults Show quality: no retrieve desire Champion bloodlines: no titles for 5 generations Athletic: no fence can contain it. Pulls on leash like a sled dog. Parents good hunters: no papers vet checked: no health clearances Started dog: left over puppy. Knows its name. Trained dog: Sits on command Finished dog: owner is finished trying to title it Professional training: No amateur can handle it Thought you all may enjoy the above. Erny: They work on distractions until one year of age. Obedience is very important in their trials. Country Joe: That is great CJ. My husband has just left to go hunting on the rice. He has taken none of our labs, LOL. A first!!!!, as our 11 year old ignores him (selective hearing LOL), and my two other trial dogs were not allowed to go because of my snake fear and in reality I call hunting, anti training. He ended up happy when he remembered a one year old home bred labrador is in the party, and he can help the owner as a result. Co incidently one youngster who was trained using Steve's K9 methods, with great results.

I cannot let this important thread, fall off Page 1. Country Joe I have no idea of your experience with gundogs, but trust me it would open your eyes. From my own personal view, it has also given me new ideas and lots of headaches. Country Joe They sure do. Even one wee noise, will have them disqualified in a trial. Can I ask at this time, your dog interests? Edited: Oh brother, just when I thought I had this fancy quoting worked out.

Sardog/Julie, Thanks, and to everyone else who has extended their thoughts to me. I have to admit, Ses's illness, knocked my feet from under me. To say the least, it has been a very stressful year, and by her passing, she left me another gift, which only became apparent over the last couple of days. The flood gates finally opened, my tears fell without check. To everyone who has a dog, please find the best veterinary advice, if you think your dog is off colour. They are so stoic. Hindsight is great, 20/20 vision, but my dogs are with me virtually 24 hours per day. I check for mammary lumps every week, but I did not locate Ses's originally. We visited three vets, when the original tiny lump was first detected and all were not concerned, as her spinal injury seemed to be more of an issue. I do not, for a second, blame the vets. The aggressiveness of her cancer surprised us all. In passing, since learning of the advantages of creating drive close to me- and the other bonuses, Ses also improved. She was always a good marker but her blinds (hidden retrieves) on land were our bone of contection. Not her failing, my training. Back to training, in prey drive, we go. Thankyou.

Thanks all, I feel guilty by adding my news on this thread, as once again it has changed the subject matter. But, just in case, other readers are intereted to know of my darling Ses, she was laid to rest a couple of days ago, due to aggressive mammary cancer, at 6 years of age. She had three operations in attempting to arrest the disease, since her diagnosis just 2 months ago. Her quality of life had been checked once a week. Unfortunately at the last check her lymph glands had also become enlarged and due to lack of oxgyen her tongue had started to turn blue. After the last vet appointment we went for a walk to a local park where she kindly showed me how she had declined over 24 hours. She always made me proud and I have gained great comfort in knowing I have given her this last kindness.

Of course naturally as a Lablover I would advise you of a labrador, but in reality if you like the look of Dobe, I think a GSP may be a perfect match.

Thanks Erny. I appreciate it. I am on the net, looking like a stunned mullet. She is suffering no more.

Lablover: Erny: Erny, Like the above. Yiiipeeee, I am so excited. I leant something new today. Maybe even two new things today. Oh joy, LOL. I tell you I need a laugh so badly, Ses our six year labrador, with cancer, is looking very bad today.

Hi Julie, I agree it is very important to have sound foundation with diversions like rabbits, other birds, scents and people. I cannot help, also, but own up to a deadly sin. :rolleyes: That is, I do feel I can place a dog in a trial before they are fully ready. Uumm, I am going out to the garden to do some more weeding. Hopefully another bird will be about. Do not worry bird lovers, it will be released unharmed. Check IT OUT, quotes!!! At last.

Could you please expand why it will not cause any issues?. Thank the stars did not suggest I buy a pet dove or pigeon to have hanging around my neck. How I would love to have a young puppy at the moment to experiment on, from whelping box to novice retriever. Just to prove to myself that a toy, could have equal value to a bird, dead (or alive). For example police GSD, in full drive while attacking (a very naughty person, LOL), would every dog release on command at a distance every time?

Steve (K9 force), I have been using the ball on the string as the reward for Stamp, instead of bumpers and all has been going well. Until yesterday. I was weeding in the garden, after a few more drills using the ball and had it still pegged to my top. Stamp caught a dove in the garden shed. I heard the commotion and he willingly brought the dove to hand. After taking the bird from him, I tried to reward him with the toy. He would not have a bar of it, and I put alot of movement while trying. Should I be worried that he was still so focused on the bird. Rather than persist, I let the bird go. It concerns me that Stamp still does not think of the ball on the string, as his main reward (holding more value). Edited: I was going to Email me with this query, but thought it worthwhile posting instead.

K9, Your post, regarding others handling dogs, do you mean experienced dogs being handled by learners also. It certainly works with horses!!!!

Thanks K9. I accidently at training, one day, shouted "out" not "no" (which I have never been comfortable with especially in the teaching phase, as I felt no could have meant anything to the dog), and was amazed with the response.

And remember to label the videos, LOL. I have finished training for the day, and co incidently am transferring micro tapes to videos at this very moment.

As in retrieving trials the articles can be very close together and order of pickup is important, I use "out" (as I do in the house). I have no idea why it works. K9?