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Does anyone else remember one, of the fox studies?

SADA What a wonderful team of dedicated trainers, handlers and helpers (in their various functions). The dogs equally amazing. I bow before you all. The SADA group would never sing about themselves, but if anyone is interested they will be on the Channel 7 and 9 news tonight. Here is a link to the article in The Age. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/09/...8783363547.html WHAT A TEAM!!!!!!. A terrible tragedy for the family involved. My thoughts are also with them. I added this thread, so we can clap our hands to SADA, who have given so much of themselves, freely, in every respect.

Who? He is Australian?????

Youngster sounds as though he enjoys life. Test his drive. At 16 weeks, it would be interesting, to say the least. You can see the bit extra at 4 months, if it is there at all?? Show dog.....doubt it though. Depends on the level, and I have no experiece with Schutzhund training or trialling. I would look at the sire and dam closely, veeeeery closely. Are they active types?????

Thanks! I think I've heard Susan Garrett and other trainers talk about him? Sounds like he's a trainers' trainer. Personally I love the DVDs so much, I nearly sleep with the discs. I own endless DVDs and video regarding dog training (mostly based on retriever field training, handling etc). Bob Bailey is by far my favourite theory based series. Its application is awesome!!!!!!! I would give my right arm to train with him.......nearly!!!!!!!!!

Tony, Do you think as people have generally less time, and may spend more time in the home, that simply observation of dogs (and criteria), are not used as frequently. As a child all the neighbour kids and the family dogs played together. After all dogs do not lie - us mere humans must believe what we see ? I'm tired again. Frankly I think I need a medical check. So sleepy all the time. Hope I make sense.

How often is your dog walked off your property?

Persist with your 'silence' command. Obviously she does not understand it yet????

Phew, what a long thread. What can I add? Probably nothing - my first experience with E collars was watching retriever training in the US on my initial trip, where everyone uses the device. At least the professional trainers I observed. They conditioned the required behaviour and responses over the course of many weeks. The dogs were not fools. As a result the dogs had to be forced to go also (a force fetch program), as it was considered safer by the handlers/trainers side. Lucky the dogs learnt to handle pressure (corrections and sometimes punishment) well, all for their main reward, a retrieve. God bless high drive dogs with sound nerves. All the professionals mentioned, E collars are wonderful tools. The problem is they are too easy to use incorrectly.

I was initially pondering if it is possible to learn any more theory. I often wonder where dog training will be in 50 to 100 years. I will not be around. Practical training is much more fun. Retrieving trials SUCK though. Yo was naughty in the last trial, on the last test. Totally out of control. Yank I thought would have placed higher than 4th, as he was the only dog not to be handled on any mark. He did have two large hunts on marks (seen birds). Yank is a fun ride, reminds me of the ex racers I used to buy straight off the track. Regarding balanced trainers.......um.......err.... the line sounds as though trainers, whether they are amateurs or professionals continuously see saw. Thanks everyone for your input.

As no one has answered, I thought I should plug the Bob Bailey DVD. Anyone who can get a chicken to do an agility course is OK by me!!!!!

What do you think, balanced trainer means? Just pondering. Question two...do you think you are the best trainer, you could ever be?

Yes. Very important initially.

How do I help my neurotic dog? Everyone calls him bowl boy.

Helen, Where do you have the acupuncture treatment performed? I ask this question, as I heard recently a 'new' highly regarded practioner offering this service in the Berwick area.

Teach sit and reward for good responses. I am a short answer type of person.

NW, Good points of course. As I assumed the pup had recent innoculations, I missed the obvious. Try to take a sample of Maverick's urine as well, in a clean container. Warm soapy container, not recently disinfected. If you need any advise in obtaining an urine sample, let us know.

O, sorry. LOL LOL LOL. I should never post on DOL, during the witching hour. I did think of grabbing the video recorder as my nutter was chasing his BOWL and adding the link. BTW, he will chase his BOWL, even when it is covered by missed BOWEL movements. Yucky to wash!!!!

I think if anyone looses their temper while training, is a poor example of the supposed smarter of the dog/human combination. Depending on the situation, at the very least the person should be sensibly but strongly spoken to. If abuse continues..........the discipline criteria shoud be raised. A thug is a thug. Personalities do not really change. The problem is will the owner return or will be dog be left in a yard, as untrainable, or surrended to the local pound with often, dire consequences. I agree with others, regarding terminology. Corrections (if the dog knows how to avoid or corrently perform the desired hehaviour ), punishment on the other hand is unnecessary -except for possibly stock chasing, dangerous roads etc. More often than not, it is the human at fault.

No. Body shape and behaviour yes.

As I was typing yesterday, a friend arrived. I should not have entered my post and may have caused confusion as Ses's chiro visits were primarily for generalised spinal/shoulder soreness not for her secondary problem - the LUMP. But for interest, what conditions have helped your canines with chiro treatment? Were diagnoses confirmed by vets, radiographs, blood tests etc?

After I pressed enter to my post, I let my nutter outside. Accidently left a bowel outside. Watching through the window he is pushes it about. I look on the bright side. Another little proofing "stop" opportunity. One good thing about manics, is they offer so many opportunities to train. Off I go!!!!

Reddii, I feel your pain. I have one labrador who is what I consider a little mad. He must have something in his mouth at all times. Control is important including in the house (crate etc,) otherwise he continuously will retrieve. He loves pillows and his metal bowl!!!!!! for example. Toilet rolls on window ledges- yes he jumps up on the cistern. He will happily play with his bowl for hours, flipping it about, rolling it on the ground with his nose. I noted this behaviour very young, when he began delivering dead baby birds and rats. Anything. Tiring him out helps, mental stimulation and as mentioned control. He used to pace also, but this has ceased. He is a big panter!!!!!! He is not classically nervous.......just strange!!!!

I have my five labradors checked from time to time. When one seems a little off, I take all. Only problem is I do not really believe in chiros. I prefer physiotherapy, veterinary advice, and warm up exercises. When my Ses had a mammary lump detected, I took her to a veterinary chiropractor as my normal vet had the day off. The vet chiro thought her back was out and the lump of no significance. Next day off to my own vet, who also performs chiropractic manipulations. Same diagnosis. Still not happy so off for a third opinion. Same diagnosis. The lump enlarge alarmingly over the course of 10 days. Biopsies were taken. Metastatic carcinoma. Not for one minute do I blame the initial diagnosis but it certains makes me wonder how one dog who did not require further chiropractic treatment after each spinal manipulation, went to three with no benefit.

I voted yes, as retrieving trials are held in the rain. If there is thunder/lightning, I cease training. Nearly every training session includes water water, so I am always wet. Summer........its great when the dogs shake off excess water, cools me down rather well. In winter........eeck.