Ivory & Beau

Please let me know how Marles goes with her surgery. In a sad way, it is good to hear that another Belgian related to Ivy also has Lipomas. I'm a full blown pro at recovery after Lipoma surgery hehehe. So if you need any hints! Yes, the short stepping was what Ivy had been doing. At first I thought she had played too hard and whacked her shoulder. So I kept her quiet for a couple of weeks and it didn't get better or worse. It was just there. As for having the lumps tested, not as yet we haven't. Though I will see how the lumps go over the next 6 or so months. She did have a fine needle late 2012, which lead to it being Lipoma.

Oh I didn't know you have a Midniara too. She sounds great for a nine year old :) What size is her lipoma and at what age did it start growing? Every dog is different and I just wanted to share my experience with everyone. Ivys have grown really aggressive and I can't stand back and not try. Ivy has never been fat, I just find her weight is always having to be watched.

Just remembered something I read the other day but not sure where I saw it. Or the exact wording sorry. Lipomas are caused by the body not being able to process the carbs/fat/bad stuff normally, so pockets of fat are collected and stored around the body. So it is my belief that if you remove the excess carbs etc and add foods to the diet that help their body process better, then you have a smaller chance of their body continuing to produce lipomas. As for the part of their body that isn't working very well, as far as I know, in Ivys case it isn't genetic. Ivys breeder has never come across this in her time owning and breeding Belgians.

I'm not 110% sure at the moment but as far as I'm aware, it prevents formation of new ones and slows the growth of current ones in their system. The green section on this Mal shows where Ivy has had hers.

Been meaning to buy coconut oil to add. But no, not adding anything as yet. She does get oils but from reading, Coconut is the best? At this early stage, I'm making sure the Turmeric isn't affecting her wound and its healing. mackiemad .. Ivy had her first Lipomas [same area on her body] removed late 2012. They grew back pretty quick. Vet said we should just leave them and watch their progress. At that stage I did have her on ground Turmeric and her normal diet of dry food and raw meat. Life got a head of me and I stopped the Turmeric. To which point I think they started appearing again but I can't be 100%. I found Ivy to put on weight even if she sniffed a bowl of dry food. I never kept up feeding roo meat back then as it didn't fit well with Badger and him needing a higher fat diet. Four dogs = a lot of work. So I fed them all the same. Sometimes it was cheap dry food but they never had an issue with it, except Ivy. Late 2013 she starting showing lameness in her front right paw and the Lipoma had grown quite low on her rib cage. My gut knew it was from the lump. Then I had my car accident and life stopped until a few weeks ago. The dogs were put on the back burner while I healed. As for what Turmeric does to the body to help the growths; I'm still learning this and I plan on reading human related articles too. Do you still take Turmeric? Did your doctors notice a change? How did you add the ground powder to your diet? I guess what I'm doing for Ivy is a trial of a non processed diet with Turmeric to see if it slows down the Lipoma growth and aggressiveness. Apologies if I don't make any sense or repeat myself.

Turmeric in diet link #1 This is one website I found which has so far been the most detailed. And one I can link to quickly. Down the right hand side are links to different areas and you'll find their article about Turmeric. Note .. I didn't start Ivy on Turmeric until I was sure that her wound was past the critical stage as Turmeric can make their blood slow to clot. So please be SURE to NOT feed Turmeric to dogs with open wounds. Ivy started on it Saturday 5th, so it was well past the ten day mark and she's been under my constant eye.

I thought I would record Ivy after her second lipoma surgery, which she had on June 24th 2014. The entire Lipoma wasn't removed as the very top section had a vein through it but I am thankful it in right at the top as the lower one were affecting her front leg. She was favoring the leg for awhile, which opted me to have her operated on again. I am very happy to announce that said leg is totally fine now! So her diet has changed to Ziwi Peak, with raw roo. Cooked pumpkin and/or sweet potato [only given once a day]. I am now grating raw turmeric [i now have yellow fingers, opps] and she gets a bit every feed. A little hard to find raw turmeric, so I am going to buy organic ground turmeric as a back up. The raw root I can buy locally is Australian Grown, which is an added bonus. I have done a lot of reading about feeding Turmeric to dogs with Lipomas. I haven't really keep any reference but I am very happy to go back and find any info for anyone :) I may also try Sunday Pets as a back up for Ziwi Peak but I am yet to buy any. Ziwi Peak is really expensive but for her only and a 1kg bag has already lasted two weeks, I don't think it is going to be too much of a struggle. I did just score a bag half price because I had a credit note on a bag of expired Daily Cat I ask that anyone who disagrees on her diet to refrain from making any comments. Ivory means the entire world to me and I am doing my best to keep her as healthy as possible so we may have many more moons together. I am personally very fragile at the moment, since having a serious car accident eight months ago [possible court case to prove the guy who hit me was at fault] and now to have Ivys health worry me. So please don't question me about her diet. I am posting this in hopes that Ivy and I will help other dog owners, who in the future may be caught with Lipomas. Operation updates .. Possible injection site inflammation [appeared Friday night] which we will show the vet tomorrow as her stitches are due to come out; two week mark! Drain was taken out last week and all seems to be going fine since. No fluid build up. Ivy is also back to her normal self too. She chases the postie through the fence every weekday, like a mad girl. Her drive is to die for and just like that; she's chilling on the couch. Note .. For anyone not sure, Ivy is Groenendael Belgian Shepherd 13/07/2008

Well all the dogs walked in the mat upon entry the house last night and Badger even sat on it while I was having a mini growl at him because he wouldn't go to bed. He wanted to hang out with the rats who also live in the main room. Then I went all mushy on him because he looked adorable sitting on the mat.

Wow Jules, that is hardcore and so stressful on you too. She healed OK though? Well I have booked an appointment with our vet this morning and let him decide if the drain comes out or not. Thankfully our vet doesn't charge anything else at all to do with the operation with aftercare etc. So if it needs to stay in a bit longer, that is OK.

I didn't think about it like that! EPs do have a hairless belly. I call him my bendable puppy hehe

Casowner, can you advise me on postage please? To Perth WA.

American goods and crafts .. does this happen to maybe be materials/fabric?

Thanks. Didn't expect the vet to text back so quickly! He said drain out in a day or two and stitches out in another week. Sounds about right Jules :) Though I had a hell of a time with Ivy last operation. But since putting a t-shirt on her, we've been fine!! I've just had to find stuff I don't want anymore and do lots of hot washing loads so they are as clean as possible for her to wear again.

Off topic a little but my English Pointer is a big boy and he curls up in to a tight ball when sleeping outside on his doggy bed. I'm always amazed at now small and tight he can curl up.

Ooooo I like the look of those!

Well I bought one from Big W and it is now washing as per instructions. So it will be ready for tonight, which is a good test as it has been raining here today! I read that it was too small, the size seems OK to me. If it works good enough, I will grab a few more.

If he seems happy out there, than being inside, then I'm sure he will be fine over winter. My dogs are outside during the day, and now come in at night recently because it has been quite wet this winter in Perth. I have no doubt I have broken the dogs and they are going to want to be in every night now! Plus we have a 14 year old Lab, so he needs extra warmth over winter. We can't let Zeke and Ivy in, then leave the two youngest outside.

Ahhh ok cool. Thanks!

Going to get one and see how it goes! I make my pack wait at the open door, so most of the time they are focused on me and my signal of "ok" to come in and hopefully they won't jump it!

Awesome, thanks. I'll defiantly give it a go. Just annoyed that it contains potato eta - Just had another look and only the grain free has potato, phew! And do you feed the "Raw Chow Freeze Dried Lamb" like you would Ziwi?

Ivy had major surgery a week ago yesterday, to remove lipomas. Everything is going awesome and she's healing really well. No issues at all. She wears old t-shirts 24/7 to stop her touching the wound and to keep the drained fluid from dripping on the floor etc. I honestly think she loves wearing clothes. Green suits her the best :laugh: So my question is [i have just sent a text to our vet to ask the same question] ... What is the best time frame to have the stitches removed, with the drain? Will the drain do its job because it is a drain, even when the wound has healed? The wound is massive, from the top of her shoulder, down to the bottom of her rib cage. You can see the scar from her first lipoma removal back in 2012. Here is a photo, taken a few days ago.

So glad you have her!! I saw her ad on Gumtree and instantly thought about you CC :)

No need to be sorry! Hmm might do a bit more reading about it. I'm trying to keep her diet non processed [as little as possible] as she gets lipomas. Can you break up SP, or are they meant to be fed in chunks? What size is a piece in comparison to a hand?

Ivy is on Ziwi at the moment but I am considering Sunday Pets as well. So she gets Ziwi but not everyday.

Back to the food ... Can this food be compared to Ziwi Peak? Or is it totally different?