:) :laugh: Thank you to evey one that has helped me with the food advise I think the best is to stick with the ARTEMIS or Royal Canin as the breeder sugested I just wanted to know the difference was there really a big difference and clearly there is, so Im happy to give my Bull mastiff the $130 bags of food as it will promote great health and well being, also I was told by the breeder to get medicare pet insurance as I am defantly doing that and Ill be getting the hight one, as I know the biger the dog the biger the problems I have also been told by vets when I have the dog desexed to have the operation PROFALACTIC GASTROPEXY so prevent Blote, so any one with Bull mastiffs that have had there dogs have this opp and had benifits I would appreciate any one telling me things I need to learn about. I go to KCC PARK VIC all the time to talk to people at the shows so I can learn. I have been learning now for one year and Im renovating the house so I have just had 6ft 6 fences and new gates lucky dads a builder and we are killing of all the wandering due plant before our family member comes along. so I still have a lot to learn I wont be showing but I will still take my dog to puppy school and on to obediance at KCC PARK as I feel the knowledge of the people there is a great help to and I need that as I have never had a Bull mastiff and such a strong willed dog and needs reguler socializing with dogs and kids people. so I really appreciate every one here telling me about the food as its important and thats why I wanted to ask other people. thnak you kindly and merry xmas and happy new year.