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A pet (being a dog without papers or only on limited register) can't be shown - if you want a dog to show then it MUST be on main register. I agree with Sandra - straight on to the relevant canine council.

I think it depends on the home - not something I'd recommend but the right people can make it work really well. My parents got two miniature poodles from the same litter and it has been fabulous. My parents moved away from the family home and the family dogs (who stayed with me) years ago in what was supposed to be a temporary move. They loved the area and moved permanently but the dogs stayed with me. My dad's theory was that we had always had less trouble with our dogs growing up when we had two so he wanted two. Their dogs from the moment they got them have been completely part of their lives BUT the dogs do have each other when they're out of the house. It doesn't need to mean that the people have no intention of spending time with their dogs.

I live with two debarked dogs - one came to me debarked, the other I debarked. The one I debarked doesn't make a hideous noise but can make some noise - more a raspy sound. The other one makes no sound and, when she is in the mood to bark, it is bliss that she is debarked. I've run an all breeds rescue and never considered debarking any of them, I have lived with many dogs and have only debarked one - some dogs are problem barkers for no good reason other than that they can be. Debarking reduces the stress on the animal (not getting in trouble for barking) and the stress on the owners and leaves everyone IME much happier and calmer. The dog still thinks it is barking but no-one is disturbed.

Thanks Sandgrubber. It was hysterical this morning as the pups went into the big dog run for the first time with Anna, Marie & Ace - the pups would all latch on to one mum and the other would walk around cleaning bums and then they'd swap :laugh: .

Congrats!

I've used the velcro collars before from birth as I needed it for ID. I found that with my breed they rubbed a little too much on the shoulders so I switched to rick-rack for these last litters until they were 3 weeks old at which time they went on to little Rogz puppy collars in the same colours as the rick-rack (or as similar as I could get). Worked fabulously and will do the same again next time.

Interestingly I was told by Dogs NSW that I was in breach of my obligations if I exported a dog that wasn't on Main Register as all exports MUST be on Main Register. I had a pup going to what was only ever going to be a pet home and her registration paperwork was on Limited Register as a result - to export her she had to be upgraded.

But melzawelza wasn't saying that those sort of people don't exist but that we shouldn't make assumptions AND that we should have some sympathy for people who find themselves in positions they never anticipated being in. All I can think is the people who are most critical have never had things go to crap in their lives before.

Faxed off this morning, they've received, taken the money from my account and it should be processed within 5 days. Why would I bother with on-line I ask???

Agree with you wholeheartedly melzawelza

Good luck! :laugh:

What a complete waste of time & energy.

I've read before that people have had trouble with litter registrations but stupid me still thought I'd give it a go now that my pups are microchipped and try to get them registered nice and quickly..... Yeah sure! Only one name was approved - the rest were all part of a prefix apparently - *oh rolly eyes man I miss you!* Tomorrow I will fax off my litter registration instead. I can't imagine how anyone gets a litter registered that way.

This morning the girls were in their respective indoor puppy pens feeding their babies when we suddenly realised that neither of them had the right pups. Have officially given up worrying about it lol. Both girls whinge to get in with the pups for 5 minutes or so each morning and evening but other than that they're not really with them at all.

That's certainly part of it. I think other issues are: - Unnecessarily worrying conscientious companion puppy buyers who are not ever going to breed the dog and who may have a practice building vet who will suggest a whole range of worrying and unnecessary tests. Having been that puppy buyer myself 8 years ago and paying an absolute fortune (over $5K including meds) for what turned out to be an ordinary and harmless low grade heart murmur, I can see why breeders would err on the side of caution. In some ways the money wasn't the worst part, it was the huge emotional stress of it, seriously thinking my dog was going to be dead within 12 months. - Witch hunting by the breeder's competitors, especially of the "never mind the log in my eye, let's pick on the splinter in yours" kind. A minority of people are quite happy to play politics with health issues, even if the dog is a companion who has never been used or shown. Not every person or every breed is like this, but where you have even one or two people using dogs as political footballs it ensures everyone stays quiet. I think this is worse now that breed groups on FB mean that everyone has a much better look at everyone else's dogs and business. I have seen a few innocent puppy buyers say things on FB groups that I know will have people chattering behind their hands. The other tricky thing for the puppy buyer is that people like that can appear to a novice as if they are just concerned about health in the breed, when in fact health isn't the reason for their interventions at all. So the breeder keeps their cards close to their chest. That said, I think as soon as someone goes to use a dog, or they buy a dog with the specific intention of incorporating it in their breeding program, then situations like Mistiqview's just shouldn't arise. If someone is going to breed on with something, then it's very important that they have good information and micropthalmia is one of those things that should be on the table. I can't imagine how heartbreaking it would be to get a whole litter with no eyes and know that someone knew about the possibility and said nothing. I am grateful to people who have been the "bigger" person in my breed and been completely frank with me about what they know when I have made inquiries. Those people are the glue that holds a breed together and I don't repeat what they tell me because they've always been frank about it in the context of a serious discussion about using a line. And I feel the same way, if someone asks me to disclose everything I know just to satisfy their curiosity they can forget it. But where people have serious intentions to use the lines, then I tell what I know because it is very frustrating to have the whole "oh yeah, that has popped up before" discussion after the mating is done and the pups are on the ground. Yep you have covered it all I reckon.

Yes it is true. RIP Titan.

That is a good idea Yellowgirl - will do that.

Yeah I think the fact that Mac is soooooo well in so many other ways - if you met him you'd probably not even notice immediately that he was blind and you'd NEVER pick him for 13 1/2 as he is still so active and agile. In some ways he looks like your typical Eveready Battery type dog where you think that they could go on and on and on but to see him stressing like he does when there is a storm is really hard for me. I'm sure his dementia is quite mild but it is so identical to his storm phobia and I know how terrified he is at those times that it doesn't take a lot of it for me to struggle to see him so distressed. We've always said that once he was having daily "panic attacks" then it would be time to go and the fact that the last 4 nights have had them does worry me some.

The biggest difficulty we face is that, of course, he never does it at the vets and they see a seemingly perfectly healthy, albeit older, dog.

As we all know - I wouldn't have ever tried this on purpose :laugh: but the pups decided that Marie walking past from the run back into the house was too good an opportunity and she was bombared by all 12.... Had a minor moment of silent panic until it became obvious that she didn't care at all :laugh: and seemed to figure that they were all hers. Here is one side of the 12 having a drink. At least 1, maybe 2, of those are hers. God I love this dog! She truly has the most stellar temperament.

The night time barking is only new this week but its horrible. The other stuff is normally "only" a couple of times a week.

I have a lovely old JRT who is 13 1/2 and is starting to show more consistent signs of dementia. Most days he is good and potters around without a problem BUT once or twice a week he seems to have a panic that can last from 20 minutes through to 90 minutes where he moans, paces and appears to generally be quite stressed (similar to his behaviour during a storm). He has also begun barking at around 3-4am for about half an hour - doesn't need to go to the toilet, just again seems to be unaware or uncomfortable with where he is. He is totally blind (having suffered corneal dystrophy his whole life), is quite deaf and has a heart murmer BUT otherwise is very fit and healthy but I can't ignore the fact that he is more and more often appearing to be quite distressed. How have others dealt with it? I know some people whose old dog has carried on like that for years progressively becoming more and more unsure and stressed and that seems to me to be terribly cruel - whatever is happening in his mind it is upsetting him.

Its impossible to get them all together, not to mention, movement shots are difficult but will see what I can find of my adorable babies.

Oh they are adorable!!! Ours are all hanging out together now - all 12 pups in the day pen or hanging out with the kids in the yard. The next 2 weeks are school holidays and they (kids & pups) are all going to have such fun together!

In my little village right at the moment Fauves are probably the most common breed :laugh: but only because I have two litters at the same time. Generally speaking the most common breed here is your typical rural working dog mixed breed followed by what are called Jack Russells but realistically are just small white terriers. In Albury generally I would say bull breed mixes, followed by short haired terrier mixes & SWF. When I was in the Sutherland Shire recently I was GOBSMACKED by the number of Cavalier x poodles!