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Might be time to look at the invisible fences Gayle

I have to ask how can you be terrified of Bull Terriers, yet not know that is what the dog was?? She said that she was terrified of "white bully breeds" not necessarily only the Bull Terrier. I'd hazard a guess she'd react the same way to white Staffy's and Amstaffs. ;)

Talien I highly recommend you find some nice Bull Terrier breeders around your area and go and meet them - start with them first and then, once you're comfortable with them, move on to another breed. I know EXACTLY how you feel as I also have the same irrational fear of certain breeds - well to me it is rational in that I've had bad experiences with dogs of that breed before, buts it irrational because I KNOW that there are many good examples of the breed. I used to be quite frightened of GSDs but Tibbiemax on here has the most STUPID GSD you've ever met - Crazy Elka. Its completely 100% impossible to be frightened of Elka as she is just so dopey.

Congrats Angelsun. How many are you expecting in the next litter????

Yep - I so wish I could use one.

Yep I think its a brilliant idea and I wish they were allowed in NSW. I've seen e-collars in use as a training-tool and they're amazing. Have you ever felt the very low stim that they give GSPS4me? I would imagine you're anticipating a shock as was I - they're actually very, very mild.

I find the way it is done in the UK quite sensible to be honest - it means that when I'm looking at pictures of a dog online I can see, at a glance, who it was bred by and who owns it.

We came across it quite a lot Anne, normally with pups bought from pet stores. Pup 1 was given pup 2's details so both pups were chipped to the incorrect owners. Big mess That is when we saw it most commonly also.

Couldn't help myself - here is a pic of my four fat sausages today. Given that they are getting fat very quickly I thought I would make some real efforts to avoid swimmer pups so have put some of McKenzie's small stuffed toys under the vet bed to make them climb. They don't appear to be showing any signs BUT they have a mother who doesn't leave the whelping box, there is only 4 with a full milk bar and they are fat little porkers.

Hope everything went well overnight Angelsun - looking forward to an update when you're awake enough.

I suppose I mind because in the 12 months since I resigned they may have changed their operation and I wouldn't want people to think that things are still done the same way. Regardless I think it is naive to think that rural Victorian pounds operate in the same way that pounds in larger areas of Victoria do.

I can assure you that it is not Wodonga Pound - they are awesome and have a very close working relationship with Wodonga Dog Rescue.

Can't help but think the exact same thing. Why should I identify when you're not willing to???????

I can't help other than to say I'm sorry. I can only imagine how devastated you are.

I can tell you right now that there are pounds in Victoria that DO NOT release dogs to the general public. They will return them to owners but that is it - if the dog is not claimed by its owner it is shot. It is very, very, very difficult to convince members of the public to send a dog to a pound when they know that if the owners don't turn up it will be shot. I believe very, very strongly that people should always contact the rangers when they find a dog OR take it to the nearest vet (which is what I've always done with every stray dog (or deceased dog) that I've picked up - loads of) BUT there are some Councils that make that a very unpleasant option. As for how many dogs that are impounded get claimed I can tell you that when I was running Albury Dog Rescue and working closely with both Albury & Wodonga Pounds there were no more than 50% of impounded dogs claimed over the course of a year. In fact I'd be surprised if that many were claimed.

I've been wondering how you were going Angelsun - will look forward to hearing how things go and seeing some pics so I'm not the only one filling up the thread with photos of baby slugs

I'm so sorry - I was really looking forward to us having babies at the same time

Dee Lee is a DOLer who adopted a rescue dog that had all sorts of issues with aggression that she persevered with for years - working through his unknown issues caused a lot of problems for her family. My point is that just because YOUR family is willing and able to do that doesn't mean that everyone else should do. I ran an all-breeds rescue for 6 years and probably have more of a hard-nosed view on things as, IME, for every dog that will bite with such little provocation there are two who won't.

Because not EVERY dog owner has either the resources, the ability or desire to own a dog that requires that level of work. Kudos to those who do but those who don't shouldn't be mad to feel like bad dog owners because they want an easy to live with dog. Talk to Dee Lee about just how stressful it can be for people to live with a dog completely unsuited to them and their family because they feel an obligation to work through a rescue dog's issues. Its, quite simply, not for everyone.

So sorry Griff - after rescuing a couple of Whippets myself I have been converted, they are beautiful animals.

I find it disturbing that educated DOLers would condone this behaviour, no matter how well-intentioned the finders are. Ohh believe me they not only condone it but make up evrey excuse in the book as to why they should keep the dog or pup, the most common one being that it looks neglected and is not chipped. Like that some how gives them the right to keep it I think it is also important to recognise that in SOME rural areas the finder of the dog will be asked to hold onto it for a while, if they're able to, by the rangers. My parents live in Towong Shire which is a large rural shire with the Rangers based at the opposite end to my parents. They found a dog and were asked by the rangers to hold onto it for a couple of days and let everyone in their small village know that they had found the dog. If after those couple of days the owner hadn't come forward then he would come and get the dog. I have previously stood up for people on here who have been told that by their local Rangers. I have also supported someone who found 3 pups and took them to a Council further away than their local - the pups were found in dense bushland at the end of a rural road, were a typical pigging mix for this area (Staghound/Greyhound type) and only about 10 weeks old. Their local pound didn't release dogs to rescue or the general public and still (as of 12 months ago) shot impounded dogs rather than euthanised. They were impounded, given an opportunity for claiming through microchip and allowed to live.

I haven't bred a litter with a problem obviously but we did have a rescue bitch through with a stellar temperament who had 8 pups. More than half were put to sleep by 12 months with both human and dog aggression. In hindsight they were very insular as pups - very much NOT puppy like.

She's getting quite a podge there Angelsun!

Thanks for that guys - I'll have to research it. I find colour genetics very confusing too Angelsun but I'll have to try to get my head around it.

Wow its really cool to know that there are other breeds (or colours within breeds) that are also born stripy.