Trisven13

Congrats Pockets!!!

And we've moved the whelping box and pups into the loungeroom and Marie is much happier

Yep that is what they look like isn't it?

14 days old today

I've noticed that quite a few of my European Facebook friends who have Fauves also have Norwich Terriers. They're not a breed that I know a lot about but they sure are cute little orangey scruffers. So what are they like? Went looking for a Norwich Terrier thread in the breed info thingy but couldn't find them there.

Awesome, awesome, awesome pics Pav Lova!

Have messaged you. Having run the Albury Dog Rescue in the area for 6 years I have a pretty good knowledge of every vet in the immediate Albury area though there are some vets I don't know. There is currently a lovely girl working at Tallangatta Vets' who shows Poodles (*I think*) who could be a good option and Tallangatta is only 30 minutes from Albury.

Yep me too! In a few days we'll bring the whelping box out to the loungeroom whilst the others are crated and see how that goes - don't have a baby gate though that is a great idea.

First introduction was back to normal - phew!!

Yep we're about to give it a whirl right now - she ran with Archie earlier today without a problem.

Its normally Daphne, Marie, Archie and Mac - the only one she has had a problem with is Daphne.

As you know from staying with me multiple times BB my dogs normally get along like a house on fire but ever since Marie came back from her mating this time she has been a little nigglier than normal. Nothing major - just a growl and dominant body language and Daphne backs down - but I'm also very, very conscious of making sure that they don't have anything major happen as I want them to go back to being the best of buds like they always have been.

Thanks Piper - my intuition is telling me that the time is right to re-introduce Daphne & Marie to hanging out together without pups and I'll see how that goes. Now that the pups have eyes open they'll start hanging out with us more in the loungeroom.

How do you know though when they're in different rooms? Do I bring the whelping box out to the same room as the other dogs but keep them in their crate? It was never an issue with the rescue dogs as they weren't "friends" with my dogs if that makes sense? Daphne & Marie normally share a crate and do everything together.

I've kept her away because she was a bit growly with Daphne but I think we might let her hang out again this afternoon and see how they go. Here is a picture of Campbell with Yellow who has her eyes open the most (not such a great photo of Campbell but the good ones of Campbell are bad ones of Yellow )

At what point do you re-introduce your existing dogs to mum? For the first 5 days or so after the pups were born Marie would growl at Daphne as she walked past her crate on her way to the toilet but hasn't since then. She sniffs her now, wags her tail etc and has always wanted to interact with the boys. She is also starting to want to spend more time away from the pups - 15-20 minutes at a time. I think Marie is really wanting to catch up with the others now.

LOL yep remembered the storm last night when I was watching them.

And how many rescuers really think that raz???? Come on - you know better than that surely! ETA not to mention that most rescuers, with any kind of knowledge, recognise that PETA are radical whackjobs whose eventual goal is that no-one has a pet.

Yep and you also can't put down, for example, "Terrier mix" for a dog that has no obvious breed - I found out the hard way when dogs came back as Australian Terrier X.

I think that the chip should show breeder, regardless of whether they are ANKC or not, and then provision for the breeder to include their ANKC number (or other organisation - thinking of working breed registries here) where relevant.

Just like any other breed it depends on the individual breeder. There are many very good greyhound breeders locally - interestingly all the ones that came into pounds here had been bred elsewhere. The breeder I contacted could tell me where every other pup in the litter had ended up, who he had given the dog to, how he got onto that person, what the dog weighed when it left him, how it had raced and took great pleasure in telling me how the pups were raised around his small dogs and grandchildren. He had always, until that point, put his dogs that couldn't race to sleep as he hadn't trusted the sort of people who want failed racers. He was talked into giving away this pretty young bitch by someone he knew and trusted and, after seeing the state she was in, swore to never, ever be talked out of pts again. In the same way that it is not reasonable to assume that a dog appearing to be purebred is automatically pedigreed it is not reasonable to assume that because it didn't come in with papers it is not pedigreed. Like you, I wish there was a way of reliably ensuring that a breeder's details can remain on a microchip and that they were always contacted. I would hate to think that anything I bred ever wound up in a pound and I was unaware of it.

That is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what happened in over 75% of the cases we saw. I was horrified, disgusted etc at the attitude some breeders showed. I can think of only three who gave a toss and I nominated one of those for an MDBA award for the dedication they showed to an old dog of their breeding. I've only ever been able to contact one greyhound breeder who cared and that was for the severely emaciated greyhound in Wodonga Pound - he was awesome. Every other one I contacted would only tell me that they had passed it on.

I haven't seen data but I can tell you what we used to see in Albury - lets not forget though - one of the biggest problem with apparently purebred dogs coming into a pound is that you can't tell if they are pedigreed or not as its not attached to their collar. I can tell you of about 8 pedigree dogs with papers who were surrendered to the pound with papers. I can tell you about dogs that the people who ran the pound (and have been showing and breeding for 30 years) believed to be pedigree dogs. The bulk of dogs that were seen in Albury Pound were mixed breeds - either working breeds, SWF or bull breed/pigging mixes. The more common apparently purebred dogs were Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Labradors, Cocker Spaniels, GSDs, JRTs, Golden Retrievers etc. No great surprise however as they are more common breeds in the area. I have seen apparently pure and possibly pedigreed (some definite as they had papers) Corgi's (including a puppy), Dachshunds, German Wire Haired Pointers (quite a number to be honest including puppies), English Springer Spaniels, Golden Retrievers, Cocker Spaniels (including puppies), Italian Greyhounds, Shelties, Japanese Spitz, GSDs etc etc etc. To fully know where those animals came from their microchips would need to tell us but they don't. It would be useful if microchips could show initial place of purchase for all animals to truly be able to trace it, though of course it does rely on microchips being implanted AND working. I would agree with Cosmolo's percentage of pure but I think that we had a higher rate of pedigree than 1/4 but definitely less than 1/2.

Awwww

As Trisven is a combination of my name and my husband's it doesn't really lend itself to a litter . I had considered the Australian/Danish connection as Marie is from the first litter of Fauves born in Australia and Hagen (the sire) is imported from Denmark but all I could come up with was Prince Frederick and Princess Mary