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My girlfriend has a 4 month old baby and her dog (a Shar Pei) dislikes kids They were very nervous about how he would cope with the baby as he too was a solely inside dog Well he loves "his baby" he sleeps infront of her cradle, when she cries he cries, when people other than her and her OH hold the baby he lays near them and checks them Just because a dog does not like children does not mean it will not like "their" owners children

Thanks I can say though that I think the dog should be given a chance with the baby Under a controlled environment Chow and pei are very pack family orientated and if introduced correctly should accept the baby as an extension of their pack The more nervous you are about the whole experience the more nervous your dog will become as they sense how you feel

I think she has more of a responsibility to protect her child now, priorities change and although I dont agree with rehoming every dog just because a baby comes on the scene - if the dog is agressive in any way shape or form, fear biter or otherwise, then she will obviously think about her childs welfare first. So would I, its a case of priorities! Bringing a newborn baby into the house changes the whole dynamics of the family and ANY dog will be affected in someway. If this dog doesnt cope well with children or things that may frighten it, such as loud noises, fast moving toddlers etc, then rehoming definately needs to be considered. Whatever you decide Bondichow, i hope it works out for you. I would do the same thing in your shoes. If you had bothered to read my whole post you would note that I too have a baby due soon so am well aware of the dynamic changes a baby brings to the life of a dog I am not saying that she should not protect her child, we all put our children first over dogs But rehoming a 9 year old short lived breed with aggression issues is not only near impossible it is irresponsible Not all dogs are suitable for rehoming, it is something we all need to accept as hard as it is

I do not mean to sound rude or insincere, but I too have a baby due soon and have three Shar Pei, very similar in temperment to the Chow One of my Shar Pei is fear aggressive, she is almost 2 years old, the others are 8 and 7 years. We have gone to a great deal of trouble to introduce the dogs to the babies things by having them out in the house now, I have been teaching her to walk near the pram for months We play a CD of a baby crying and they have been trained to stay outside the baby gate and have spent more time outside then they were used to Due to the ages of my older 2 and the health issues of one (Pei only live until 8-12) the fear aggression of the younger we have decided that if they take a dislike to the baby or pose any risk at all that as much as we love them none are rehomeable and would be given their wings Rehoming a fear aggressive dog at 9 years old is very irresponsible and to me cruel I am sorry to say this but that is my feelings on this But before any decision is made you need to contact a behavourist to ensure you are doing the right thing by the dog I have also found in my years of rehoming an oriental breed that it is better to rehome and have no contact for a few months

So sorry for your loss haven, Loki sounds like a lovely boy whom I am sure is looking down on all of you

So sorry for your loss Fiona Run free sweet girl

I am so truly sorry to read this Robyn Abbie was one in a million Run free Abbie

Must be Chlorine Bleach

Glad I am not the only nutter and do this aswell I would also say, before you bring your pup in have some playtime and training outside Work her mind and as long as it is an hour after she has had dinner, work her body aswell Play chasy, tug (but make sure you win) fetch, do some basic training, so when you bring her in she is tired

So sorry to hear of your loss I too remember Mega and her needing rescue, you where right there for her in her time of need so glad she got a wonderful 21 months with you Run free Meg

Glad all went well with Abby's operation I hope her road to recovery is a quick one

I wish to god that the breeders had of desexed my breed of choice 30 years ago when they were imported to Australia I would not now be snowed under by Shar Pei needing rescue as they have been over bred for profit Sorry, but even if I did breed I would desex before rehoming I have seen it all in rescue and it aint pretty I have read alot about the article writer Kirty and tend to agree with you

PRS, could you send me that document please RSPCA did not breed these dogs, yes they PTS alot but is that their fault? Many breeders do not beleive it is their responsibility to rescue, why is it then Joe Blows responsibility to adopt a rescue dog?

And this is the girl in the pound Named Maggie now Is she familiar

Yes I agreee most of the dogs I have bought home have had kennel cough. But she is fine. They must have outbreaks or something at the Pound. For a few mths when I visted almost all the dogs had KC, but lately its been quiet, havent heard much of it at all. My own dogs are vaccinated against it, even before I started visiting the Pound, due to the large number I have my vet advised that many years ago. Thankyou so much for your concern though, its much appreciated. If you think so I rescued a Shar Pei bitch from there 8 weeks ago 9 days into foster care she came down with kennel cough Her pups then almost died of Kennel cough Just because a dog is not displaying symptoms does not mean they do not have it Quaranteen needs to exist for a reason, to stop the spread of Parvo, KC and other nasties Your dogs might be vaccinated, but not all are, and not all dogs are not vaccinated due to owner neglect, some have immune diseases which means they cannot be done All dogs being released from pound, especially a pound with a high incidence of Parvo and KC should be quaranteened for 3 weeks I do not recall a pregnant sharpei at BP. I have been visiting each week since the start of the year and have never come across a pregnant sharpei?? And I know they do not have to display symptoms to have KC. I have NOT had Jasmine in with my other dogs and she has NOT come in to contact with any outsiders - she has only been with my kids and I know KC CANNOT be transmitted to them, so I dont feel the need to worry. At the end of the day Jasmine is safe and happy and thats what this is all about - HER! ;) Are you calling me a liar? No one knew she was pregnant, she dropped the pups on me 12 hours out of the pound I did not know either Sorry but it is not just about her, it is about public safety and the rights and responsibilties we have as rescue to protect the public from disease No your children cannot get KC or parvo, but it can be shed by Jasmine and transmitted to other dogs by her saliva, faecas, urine and even the fur she drops on a public street It is irresponsible in the extreme to take a dog one day out of the pound onto a public street Yes we feel sorry for them but you have to do the right thing, by the dogs, both Jasmine, your own and the unsuspecting public I will go get a pic of Maggie and her puppies now, just to prove she did exist at Blacktown, she was released on 24/7 Here is 3 of the 5 pups

Yes I agreee most of the dogs I have bought home have had kennel cough. But she is fine. They must have outbreaks or something at the Pound. For a few mths when I visted almost all the dogs had KC, but lately its been quiet, havent heard much of it at all. My own dogs are vaccinated against it, even before I started visiting the Pound, due to the large number I have my vet advised that many years ago. Thankyou so much for your concern though, its much appreciated. If you think so I rescued a Shar Pei bitch from there 8 weeks ago 9 days into foster care she came down with kennel cough Her pups then almost died of Kennel cough Just because a dog is not displaying symptoms does not mean they do not have it Quaranteen needs to exist for a reason, to stop the spread of Parvo, KC and other nasties Your dogs might be vaccinated, but not all are, and not all dogs are not vaccinated due to owner neglect, some have immune diseases which means they cannot be done All dogs being released from pound, especially a pound with a high incidence of Parvo and KC should be quaranteened for 3 weeks

Great save but can I add something She sounds like a lovely girl and so deserving of rescue but due to public safety and pound dogs Dogs coming directly from pound situations should not be walked on streets or leave a property until they have done quaranteen They might not have anything but could be carrying spores on thier skin or could have KC and infect others I am yet to rescue a dog from Blacktown that does not have KC, I am not complaining as pounds have disease, but if she infects on old dog, or a young dog under one year KC can be deadly

My Shar Pei boy had this operation when he was 4 years old It was traumatic as he hated being confined It has given him 3 years so far with me that he would not have had before, but it has changed his temperament, he has gone from being a happy, friendly, playful dog to a serious one But who is to say what caused that I swim my boy weekly, with a life vest, he hates it but tolerates it I think he has realised that swimming makes him feel better Goodluck with your boy, he sounds adorable and good on your breeder for offering to help out

So very sorry deelee You did all you could for her but at the end of the day, her demons where too strong Big hugs for you It is the hardest thing that you have done, but you loved her and knew her best, knowing what was best for her Run free Evie

All I could think of was get the dog off the lounge Stupid me and dominant breeds lol I would of thought the child would of hard a red mark aroung his neck?

Sorry I missed Ollie's birthday, nice to hear he had a wonderful day Ollie is nothing short of amasing and his fight and will to live is a pleasure to read about May his guardian angel continue to watch over him in the years to come

Are pups with clean open eyes likely to still have good eyes as an adult? There are no quarantees A pup with clear untouched eyes can develop entropian as an adult A pup that is tacked, (different from entropian surgery) can have nice eyes as an adult Entropian should never be performed on a dog under 12 months unless is severe cases and should only be done by a vet with breed knowledge How do they cope in hot/cold weather? Shar Pei are prone to feeling the heat and cold, they will need airconditioning in the summer and a warm coat in the winter Should they have wet noses? Yes How are they with Special needs Children/Adults? I have found they are extremely tolerant of children and adults with special needs But they need to be raised with them What colours do they come in and how common are they? Only solid colors and sable are acceptable and are to be judged on an equal basis. A solid color dog may have shading, primarily darker, down the back and on the ears. The shading must be variations of the same body color and may include darker hairs throughout the coat. The following colors are disqualifications: Albino; Not a solid color, i.e.: Brindle; Parti-colored; Spotted; Patterned in any combination of colors. What about ear care? I clean ears weekly with a 1/4 Malaseeb and 3/4 saline solution flushing 5 times Not all dogs require this care I have 3 1 requires weekly cleans 1 fortnightly 1 monthly Do litters have a mixture of the coats or do you breed not to have the horse or bear coat? Are they good with other dogs, eg Pugs? Thanks All breeders should breed to not have bear coat Although the dogs themselves are stuning in both looks and personality they are not a showable type Horse is not as common as humans are more likely to be allergic Most breed brushcoat I have had my dogs with Pugs and they get along famously Pugs are not aggressive and fun loving, a Shar Pei loves that They are good with other dogs they know, they need extensive socialisation throughout their whole life not just in their puppy time Most will ignore smaller dogs as they see them as no threat Shar Pei do not do well on beef and have a tendancy to have more skin and ear issues if feed a poor quality diet She will need to be feed more like a cat, chicken, pork, lamb, kangaroo, extra Omega 3 and 6 I do not often feed dry My dogs get a BARF diet If I do give dry food I have Eagle Pack Holistic Anchovy Any dry food that does not have corn as is main ingrediant and is not beef based is OK

QUESTIONS 1. What is my relationship with the breed? (ie breeder, first time owner etc) I have owned the breed for almost 8 years Was involved in showing for 3 years I have operated Shar Pei Rescue Australia for 7 years rescueing and rehoming unwanted and dumped Shar Pei Australia Wide I have seen and treated all of the Shar Pei hereditary disease that is around Most skin and ear problems are easy treated with change of diet and better husbandry 2. Where and why was the breed first developed? Ancient Chinese farm breed bred to hunt, guard and later used to fight. Became heavily taxed and outlawed at one time in China and almost became extinct (the world’s rarest breed in the 1970s) Brought into Australia in the early 1980s as an exotic breed which it still is relatively. 3. How common is it in Australia? Fairly common, but still unique 4. What is the average lifespan? Shortish about 8-12 years 5. What is the general temperament/personality? If you have never had the pleasure of meeting a Shar Pei before, the first impression might just as well be that of a kind, though independent, even arrogant dog with a mind of their own. Indeed, these dogs are often arrogant and standoffish with strangers. Of course, this makes people think that a Shar Pei is smarter than it looks, but under the mask of arrogance and indifference hides the mischievous soul of a natural-born clown. It is in their home surroundings that these dogs reveal their true character, their numerous faces and aspects of mood. Each of them is truly individual and a great wonder to discover. This is what makes Shar Pei so capable of true and loyal friendship unlike many other pets. Talking about the character of these teddy bears, first and foremost they are calm, independent and devoted to their family. Moreover, these dogs are very enduring, noble and wise, seeming to be able to read your mood and know when you need that little bit extra love or laugh. A Shar Pei truly enjoys human company, especially that of children - they can play with them for hours and stand any liberties the children might take. A Shar Pei can and is extremely patient and discreet. They are never aggressive without an obvious cause., a will give a warning growl if a situation that are in gets out of their control. These reflexive animals should be given an opportunity to assess the situation and use their own discretion when it comes to action. Amazingly sharp sight allows keeping everything under control - at all times. Although historically these dogs were meant for protecting property, the Shar Pei is no worse a bodyguard than a Mastiff. These energetic and fast-running dogs have more than a fair chance of protecting human life against any potential threat and will do so if they feel their family needs them. A Shar Pei needs a firm owner, someone who will put them in their place. While the Shar Pei is one of the most unusual and distinctive breeds, it should not be purchased simply “because we wanted something different”. It can be an excellent, appealing family dog and a worthy watchdog and will accommodate itself to most living situations. It can also be stubborn, self-willed and try to dominate its owner. The heavily wrinkled skin which gives this breed its unique appearance brings with it a heavy responsibility to take care of it. The Shar Pei’s propensity for arguing with other dogs also must be taken into account. This is definitely not a breed for novice dog-owners. 6. How much daily exercise is needed for the average adult? Regular exercise in reasonable amounts is the order of the day with the Shar Pei. They are an intelligent breed who enjoys a daily walk or training session, a run in the park or a stroll along the water. When exercising in public, the Shar Pei should be kept on a lead unless they are 100% reliable with recall. Regular brushing and the occasional bath with a soap free shampoo should keep the Shar Pei’s unique coat in good condition. Shar Pei are unique in that their inner health shines in their coat, if you feed a Shar Pei too much protein it will reflect in their coat, ears and general health. 7. Is it a breed that a first time dog owner could easily cope with? Not at all and they are not a breed I recommend to a first time dog owner 8. Can solo dogs of this breed easily occupy themselves for long periods? Shar Pei are fantastic as only dogs as long as they are members of your family and allowed inside time to be part of their pack 9. How much grooming is required? Minimal, I call them wash and wear Ear cleaning is important and should be done weekly, but if the dog does not have a problem, leave the ears alone Monthly baths in a soap free shampoo and a brisk towel dry They will blow coat 1-2 a year and require vigourous daily brushing to remove the dead fur 10. Is it too boisterous for very small children or for infirm people (unless the dog is well trained)? No, Shar Pei are a lovely dog and smart enough to recognise small children and the infirm, but only in a knowledgeable home with the correct training 11. Are there any common hereditary problems a puppy buyer should be aware of? There are many Some of the problems Shar-Pei can suffer from are Hip Dysplasia, Luxating Patellas, Entropion, Skin problems and Allergies. Shar Pei bitches can drop their coat after whelping, also both sexes can look a little moth eaten when moulting. Do not mistake these as skin problems as this is quite normal for this breed. Although they are also prone to Demodex Mange.Link for Swollen Hock and Shar Pei Fever, entropion: http://www.sharpei.com.au/info/health001.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shar_Pei_fever http://www.drjwv.com/article.php?view=0004.php http://www.animaleye.com.au/entropion.htm 12. When buying a puppy, what are the things you should ask of the breeder? (eg what health tests have Make sure you meet both parents and they are friendly nice dogs Temperament is hereditary and you run a higher risk of DA, HA and problem if a parent does not have a good stable temperament Ask if there is any entropian in their lines If they breed or have breed a dog with entropian If any of their dogs has Shar Pei Fever or Swollen Hock Syndrome Luxating Patella or hip problem Demodex mange or allergies and skin issues I know there is more but my brain is not with it

Oh pull your damn head in Since when was this about me, and since WHEN am I not allowed to try and put my point across to someone who cannot seem to understand it. You ALSO need to learn to read. Taking a swipe at me for no good reason then carrying on as if you came here with advice for the OP Once again for YOU, if you quote somebody's post it is generally assumed that is the person you are speaking to, and it is impolite to ignore them, especially if they didn't read your post or misunderstood what was said, as it appears in this case. You have got to be kidding Proved my point to a "T" A debate or discussion is without insults, you are being insulting and argumentative You made blanket statements Just because what works for you does not work for everyone else $280 for a dog under 10kg is rip off, if you are more than prepared to go to a vet and pay that so they can buy a new BMW more fool you I have PM'd you the address bac, as others have stated, desexing a bitch in season can have its dangers, I would wait until she is 10-14 days out of season I have had over 200 dogs desexed, some as young as 8 weeks, but only ever desexed a bitch is season if it was in the very early stages, not only is the risk of a bleed higher, desexing in season or too close to finishing can have hormonal effects on a dog temperament

Read MY post. Did I say expensive was good? The point of my post, I don't care what it costs if I know my dog is in trusted, capable and caring hands. Why shop around if I have a vet I trust my dogs with? You don't have to. I'm speaking to the OP. You do whatever the hell you want. My advice is for the OP, not YOU. That's why i posted... FOR THE OP. And they can take it or leave it, up to them. BYE I agree, you are very arguementive gareth The vet I have recommended is a one man show, he is a fantastic vet, helps the lower income people in the area and does alot of work for rescue I use him for my own dogs and have found that a one man show is normally better