Alison03

I have a rental property and all my tenant did was ring the rental manager to ask if she could keep a labrador at the house, she runs a companion dog program. The rental manager rang me, I said yes, as long as the tenant made the garden dog proof, put up side gates etc at her own cost, she agreed with that. It was that easy, no emails just a couple of phone calls. She's a good tenant and now she's a happy tenant too. :) Its as simple as asking, if you have a good rental record and the inspections show you keep the rental property in good order, there is every chance they'll say yes. However if the property looks like a tornado went through it, theres every chance they'll say no. I wouldn't dream of asking for more rent because of a dog, but I can't speak for other landlords. :)

Thats why I am so careful when me and my dog are around children, I know if she bites (even though she never has) she will be at fault, no matter what a child did to her. It was very different when I was a child, if you were playing with someones dog, you'd get told "Don't forget his teeth are bigger than yours" or words to that affect, it gave you a healthy respect for the dog and if you did get nipped it was your fault, not the dogs.

This is what I heard too. If no-one was in the room with the child I don't how they could tell that this is what really happened. Also in one of the articles posted above the dog had done nothing like this in all the years they had the dog. I got the impression that it wasn't a young dog from the TV footage so who knows what physical condition the dog was in. Such a preventable situation. ETA I've always thought that TV advertisements about dog body language & how to approach dogs & act around them etc, should be shown during children's programmes instead of all those ones on toys & junk food. Children are unpredictable, they can get it into their heads to do some silly things to animals, they shouldn't be left alone with any dog, quite often a child can be aware they are not supposed to go near a dog but they can't help themselves. My nephew at the same age as this boy, tried to drag the family dog out from under the table my it's tail, he got a nip for it, could have been far worse. No one seems to know what the child did to the dog but if the grandfather heard a yelp, he must have done something. It's not the kids fault, he was just doing what kids do and it wasn't the dogs fault either. I like the dog education TV adverts idea, it could be done in cartoon form too. It doesn't even have to be an ad. There are so many missed opportunities to pass on tips on appropriate dog handling on TV shows such as Bondi Vet and Dr Harry segments - yet they never do it, very frustrating. That's very true, I wonder if it's an insurance issue for them, you know the don't give advice thing just in case a kid does what you suggest and it goes pear shaped. Cesar Milan tells kids "No touch, No talk, No eye contact" with a dog they don't know, which is good advice. I'd like to see something in an advert that says to kids about not being mean to animals, eg "don't pull a cat or dogs tail or ears". Children can be cruel without realizing it and some deliberately cruel. I had a visitor to my place who brought her 7 year old son with her, he went into the garden where my little dog was, next thing my dog ran onto the deck straight under the table next to my legs, the boy ran up looking a bit strange and my girl started growling at him. Very unusual for her, she loves kids, his mother said very sharply to her son "What did you do, one day you'll get bitten" she seemed to know something I didn't. I'm very wary with kids, they either treat Bonny like a Barbie or they are too rough with her, squeezing her too hard etc. I'm very watchful with children. I told my own children when they were very young, that all animals were creatures like we are, not toys, they depend on us to look after them, so we should treat them the way we like to be treated and never be mean to them. You must have been furious - I know I would be! Unfortunately it is very common for kids - especially boys - to be cruel to animals. It astounds me that parents don't teach them better. Unfortunately I think a lot of parents were brought up with the "Its just a dog" mindset and thats what they pass on to their kids. This woman with the suspect son, has owned two dogs a GR cross and a Cavalier cross, one died from a tick (she said to me that just happens and that tick stuff is so expensive) and the other one she told me was given to a family with more land because it got too big for their property ("who knew she'd grow so big, I wasn't to know Golden Retriever crosses got that big"), the truth was she left the dog at a rescue centre, she didn't want to tell me that because apparently I have "some funny ideas about how important pets are" thats what she told a friend of mine. So that 7 year old son of her's doesn't stand a chance of being a responsible pet owner. Fortunately I don't see a lot of them.

Oops ok sorry. : )

I end up with my dog on my lap in those situations, in fact Bonny usually takes a flying leap at me with a child in pursuit, its amazing how high she can leap. I'm not sure how big Sarah is, having her on your knee or on the OH's knee may not be possible. Little kids just don't understand that a dog isn't a fluffy toy and their fascination can get them in trouble. When I go anywhere with my dog, the sight of a 2 year olds eyes lighting up makes me nervous. My OH is hopeless at keeping an eye on Bonny too.

Your Pug looks very trim and fabulous now. I'm trying to figure out how to put a photo of my dog on here but my iphone won't cooperate. My Shihtzu cross isn't big on eating, she regulates herself, doesn't always eat all her dinner and refused treats if she's not hungry. She'd have half a cup of biscuits a day and a small bowl of some meat or dog food. A pigs ear can last weeks. I'm told most dogs will eat till they burst but she doesn't. I guess that's a good thing. : ) Thanks :) I can't believe how easy it is to keep the weight off him now. And that I sometimes have trouble keeping it on! My Pug would never stop eating if he could! He loves his food :laugh: By the way, I edited my earlier post because I was worried that I sounded like I was preaching I'm just so excited and happy to have a slender Pug. You didn't sound preachy to me. I love Pugs we nearly got one when we were looking for a dog, a friend of mine told me they shed a lot, is that true? Oh my god yes! My house is ankle deep in fur! But most Pug owners will tell you they wouldn't have it any other way :) I'm still very tempted, I love the look of them and their dignified attitude. :)

Your Pug looks very trim and fabulous now. I'm trying to figure out how to put a photo of my dog on here but my iphone won't cooperate. My Shihtzu cross isn't big on eating, she regulates herself, doesn't always eat all her dinner and refused treats if she's not hungry. She'd have half a cup of biscuits a day and a small bowl of some meat or dog food. A pigs ear can last weeks. I'm told most dogs will eat till they burst but she doesn't. I guess that's a good thing. : ) Thanks :) I can't believe how easy it is to keep the weight off him now. And that I sometimes have trouble keeping it on! My Pug would never stop eating if he could! He loves his food :laugh: By the way, I edited my earlier post because I was worried that I sounded like I was preaching I'm just so excited and happy to have a slender Pug. You didn't sound preachy to me. I love Pugs we nearly got one when we were looking for a dog, a friend of mine told me they shed a lot, is that true?

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I'm hoping this works. This is Bonny at her biggest 6.3 kgs.

Your Pug looks very trim and fabulous now. I'm trying to figure out how to put a photo of my dog on here but my iphone won't cooperate. My Shihtzu cross isn't big on eating, she regulates herself, doesn't always eat all her dinner and refused treats if she's not hungry. She'd have half a cup of biscuits a day and a small bowl of some meat or dog food. A pigs ear can last weeks. I'm told most dogs will eat till they burst but she doesn't. I guess that's a good thing. : )

This is what I heard too. If no-one was in the room with the child I don't how they could tell that this is what really happened. Also in one of the articles posted above the dog had done nothing like this in all the years they had the dog. I got the impression that it wasn't a young dog from the TV footage so who knows what physical condition the dog was in. Such a preventable situation. ETA I've always thought that TV advertisements about dog body language & how to approach dogs & act around them etc, should be shown during children's programmes instead of all those ones on toys & junk food. Children are unpredictable, they can get it into their heads to do some silly things to animals, they shouldn't be left alone with any dog, quite often a child can be aware they are not supposed to go near a dog but they can't help themselves. My nephew at the same age as this boy, tried to drag the family dog out from under the table my it's tail, he got a nip for it, could have been far worse. No one seems to know what the child did to the dog but if the grandfather heard a yelp, he must have done something. It's not the kids fault, he was just doing what kids do and it wasn't the dogs fault either. I like the dog education TV adverts idea, it could be done in cartoon form too. It doesn't even have to be an ad. There are so many missed opportunities to pass on tips on appropriate dog handling on TV shows such as Bondi Vet and Dr Harry segments - yet they never do it, very frustrating. That's very true, I wonder if it's an insurance issue for them, you know the don't give advice thing just in case a kid does what you suggest and it goes pear shaped. Cesar Milan tells kids "No touch, No talk, No eye contact" with a dog they don't know, which is good advice. I'd like to see something in an advert that says to kids about not being mean to animals, eg "don't pull a cat or dogs tail or ears". Children can be cruel without realizing it and some deliberately cruel. I had a visitor to my place who brought her 7 year old son with her, he went into the garden where my little dog was, next thing my dog ran onto the deck straight under the table next to my legs, the boy ran up looking a bit strange and my girl started growling at him. Very unusual for her, she loves kids, his mother said very sharply to her son "What did you do, one day you'll get bitten" she seemed to know something I didn't. I'm very wary with kids, they either treat Bonny like a Barbie or they are too rough with her, squeezing her too hard etc. I'm very watchful with children. I told my own children when they were very young, that all animals were creatures like we are, not toys, they depend on us to look after them, so we should treat them the way we like to be treated and never be mean to them.

Yes, there are variations in penalties from council to council here in Perth regarding dog attacks, I'm not sure what the City of Armadale's laws are, but I was hoping she could also somehow be charged for not assisting the injured woman. Even if she had to remove the dog from the scene, she should have then gone back to give assistance, or if that wasn't possible, then identify herself to rangers or the police and have the guts to admit that it was her dog. Too much to hope for, I guess ... I just read that leaving the scene where someone is injured, where you are at fault is an indictable offense, that can attract jail time, I'm sure this person is just about turning inside out with fright right now and guilt hopefully. Yes she should have secured the dog, rung an ambulance and returned to the injured woman. Perhaps she'll contact the police and own up to it, that would be the right thing to do.

Well that's a good point, a bit young to be going for a jog. They didn't mention if the Maltese got hurt in the article. I hope not.

Exactly. What a pathetic coward she is - I wonder if she can be charged for failing to render assistance or something similar? Although I think that might only apply for motor vehicle crashes/hit-and-runs/etc. . I'm not sure of the legal implications, but there will be something she can be charged with as it was her dog that caused the injury. You're right it's a cowardly act she committed.

Glad they have a description of the dog now, fingers crossed that someone knows the owner, she really needs to get caught for what she did. Not because the leash snapped on her dog but because she left an injured person.

She's going to need quite a bit of therapy, just to be able to leave the house with her Maltese again, in my opinion and speaking from personal experience. Unless the police have a list of people with problem dogs who have been reported in the past or someone knows the tall white woman, they probably won't find her. A rough idea of what the dog looked like would help.

Wow great photo, what a beauty, especially in her prime, she looks like a happy dog to me and not what I'd call portly at all. :)

Poor woman, she must have been terrified, what a terrible thing to happen and what an awful person the owner of the other dog is, how could anyone leave someone in pain like that. Shame on her.

Golly good question, I don't think I'd report a portly dog, I mean it would depend on how big it was of course, if it was obviously not very well, huge and suffering , I'd assume it had some kind of illness that wasn't being attended too, I think I'd talk to the owner first though, something along the lines of "Is your dog ok, he doesn't look very well". Just reporting it could be a bit unfair if the dog had some kind of condition. A friend of mine has a dog with allergies that is on prednisolone which makes it look a bit puffy sometimes.

Its the same at my vets too, you weigh your dog in the waiting room and the weight goes in her records, you can pop in at any time to do a weigh in. My vet does the same weight review, so I assumed all vets did the same thing. I would never comment on someone else's dog being overweight either, unless they brought it up, no more than I'd comment on the person themselves being a bit chubby, I have had people with chunky dogs tell me my dog is too thin, which I think is a bit rude, I took it up with my vet who assured me she was a good weight for her breed.

This is what I heard too. If no-one was in the room with the child I don't how they could tell that this is what really happened. Also in one of the articles posted above the dog had done nothing like this in all the years they had the dog. I got the impression that it wasn't a young dog from the TV footage so who knows what physical condition the dog was in. Such a preventable situation. ETA I've always thought that TV advertisements about dog body language & how to approach dogs & act around them etc, should be shown during children's programmes instead of all those ones on toys & junk food. Children are unpredictable, they can get it into their heads to do some silly things to animals, they shouldn't be left alone with any dog, quite often a child can be aware they are not supposed to go near a dog but they can't help themselves. My nephew at the same age as this boy, tried to drag the family dog out from under the table my it's tail, he got a nip for it, could have been far worse. No one seems to know what the child did to the dog but if the grandfather heard a yelp, he must have done something. It's not the kids fault, he was just doing what kids do and it wasn't the dogs fault either. I like the dog education TV adverts idea, it could be done in cartoon form too.

I was about to say shouldn't it be the vets place to mention that a dog is over weight, sounds like some vets don't do that. My vet does, she checks my dog, makes sure she has that hollow behind the ribs. She told me last time to keep her at the same weight as she is just right. I don't tell anyone their dog is fat, thinking that was the job of the vet. I could have got that wrong.

Oh goody. More for over worked and under paid teachers to do because another "problem" has reared its head in society. Where did Alison say that teachers need to do it? Why the need for sarcasm? There are "responsible pet interaction" programs already in schools and it would be good if they were extended. They are run by volunteers, not teachers. I organised for a group to go my daughters Kindi. It was terrific, the kids got a lot of it. The Kindi also asked me to take my Rotti in and wash him in front of the class to show them how to wash a dog. Poor boy, I had to do him with a hose, he was most unimpressed :laugh: The kids all queued up so politely to pat him and used their skills from the day before. It was well worth it, I can't remember what the group was called, maybe Fido something? Those kids will probably remember that day at kindy for the rest of their lives and remember the important points that were made. It's a very worthwhile concept. : ) Not sure how my dog would react to being washed with a hose, well done for managing that, I bet you got a bit soggy too. : ))

+1. Rules are for all or none. I know no exceptions, I'll ring council and see if I can get hold of the nice animal control lady. A visit from them should do it.

OMG, how about "put a leash on your dog so it doesn't cause a car crash" That would be worth reporting as a road safety issue Where I live is semi rural, there's a lot of retirees who are stuck in the old ways, like they lived on the farm, so lots of dogs off leash. Mostly well behaved, every now and then a dog runs in the road, with the odd sad accident. Now I've got the choice of hoping the old guy got the lesson or report him and maybe they take his dog. : ) : ) or maybe a life or two is saved from injury or worse. You are making excuses for these people yet jump all over others. Yes I know I'm not being consistent, it's one of my weaknesses. I've had a big think about it while I've been working and I'm going to do the right thing and ring council before someone gets really hurt. Thanks for giving me a push. : )