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Breeders can sign up to supply new puppy owners with a few weeks free, but not individuals.

Great, thanks. It there a cut off time for this ie, do I need to contact her immediately for this, given the puppy is 3.5 weeks old?

Hi there,

Petplan seems to be the best regarded insurance company from threads I have read here.

We will be bringing a new puppy home in the beginning of January 2014. THe puppy is 3.5 weeks old now and is obviously with mum and the breeder.

I recall reading something about being able to get 8 weeks free when you sign up???

Is this the case and how does one go about it? I can't see any info on their website.

Also when should the insurance commence?

I will obviously discuss this with the breeder down the track, but I don't want to pester the poor lady too much and especially as we and still 5 odd weeks from getting the puppy... I want to keep my pain-in-the-arse emails to her in credit for now :D

Many thanks

PS. I am happy to consider alternative companies if there is a good reason.

Hi everyone and if I may, I would like to add to this discussion having spent the last 30 years of my life involved in a passion for working GSD's particularly.

Over the past 30 years I will be honest to say that the text book perfect dog still alludes me and I haven't found him/her as yet although I am still passionate trying to breed, find acquire that dog who is perfectly adjusted in all facets of environment by nature, a child's playmate, family pet to a fierce protector of only genuine threat all achieved by pure instinct with only training to fine tune that.

I have had very good working dogs who are absolutely adorable with the family, I have had dogs of equal working ability who love to play with children, any children they have shown a gentle and friendly character towards. On the other hand, I have also had dogs of again equal working ability, who are one handler dogs that didn't overly like the wife no matter how kind she was or how dominant she was there was an element of distrust in those particular dogs. I had one dog particularly who saw kids on skateboards as the ultimate prey catch to the point it scares me to envisage what this dog may have done in face of an innocent skateboarder encountered off leash and on the flip side, I have also had dogs of near perfect character with bad hips, one with elbow dysplasia and one who could never jump well or work on slippery or wet floors and one who was petrified of heavy traffic crossing a main road, the same dog in a dark alley encountering an attacker was a prize fighter, so what I have found is each and every dog has it's strengths and weaknesses in a working role, they are all individuals we take the good with the bad.

For a dog to be trained in protection not meaning a dog who will bark on command and show aggression towards a threat in a deterrent manner, but a dog who will bring down an offender as in this police dog story need to have particular traits to be successfully trainable in that job, the job of K9 arrest. If the primary function of that dog is K9 arrest and if that dog is not so good as a family pet doesn't matter and the dog is handled off the job accordingly to it's character default. We can't say that all "police dogs" in general are environmentally stable at all times because they are police dogs, some are and some not so much, it depends on the dog's default character and the primary role that the dog shall be working under. Some arresting K9's can be adapted to tracking in search and rescue where others cannot be used in SAR as although they track extremely well, they track aggressively to win the prize and taking the edge off the aggression in the search through training, dulls their ability to arrest an offender and are completely the wrong character of dog for SAR type work or dual roles, again it depends on the individual dog's default character which can vary dramatically.

For simplicity of this discussion, there are two types of dogs that can be trained in protection which are either prey driven or defence driven by nature. Prey driven dogs providing they have a courageous enough character which not all prey driven dogs are blessed with, when trained properly make a safer and more reliable protector as a general rule of thumb. Defence driven dogs on the flip side tend to be more aggressive by nature, easier to initially train, but more of a liability when managed incorrectly, but either character types can be equally as effective in the actual role of protection, but again it depends on the individual dog primarily and the training secondary.

As a personal thought in regards to this topic, I couldn't see much sense in deploying the dog to make an arrest given the human resources at hand, helicopter, jet ski etc, the offender didn't really have an escape path to use the services of a dog IMHO.

Great first post. Welcome to the forum and hope to hear more from you.

So beautiful, thanks for sharing

So sorry to hear of this Lhok I dearly hope that whatever condition is uncovered is able to be treated. Best Wishes.

I need to know why chocolate mud cake is in the rubbish bin at all :laugh:

Nice one!

Glad you puppy is okay Zereuloh :)

Dont panic, the amount of actual chocolate in the cake will not be as much as solid chocolate. The chocolate component can act like caffeine, so there might be some accelerated heart beat and some nausea. I am not sure what help there is to offer at this time of night - or even if you are still up.

Plenty of dogs have snuck the odd bit of chocolate with no adverse reactions. But just keep an eye on the heart rate and for any signs that might warrant a late night trip the an emergency vet.

Oh dear, I hope things are not as bad as they sound Lhok

I have spoken to a couple of breeders recently that will desex pups at 8 weeks and another at 10 weeks. Not only do I think this is wrong physically and mentally but it also means that puppies will go to homes at 10 or 12 weeks, so some vital early bonding is missed out on.

The reasoning seems to be - oh, these are only pets - we don't normally sell pets, and our bloodlines are too valuable to not do this.... and of course there is the justification that it doesn't affect the dogs?

I should add that I am 100% for desexing of all non-showing and non- registered breeders, just not this early.

Yep. In NSW they are over $150 to register undesexed (it might even be closer to $200?), or $40 if desexed or owned by a registered breeder. For some owners that means a whole lot. And by law they must be registered after 6 months of age.

Yes. From memory, that's about right. I have always had a problem with it though. In effect, the councils are coercing people to have their dogs desexed before six months. In practice, the council is unlikely to go after the owner of an unregistered six month old - desexed or not, and my understanding is that an owner needs to be given 28 days notice anyway.

It's a one-off fee that lasts the life time of the dog. My issue is that if an owner believes it is better for the dog to be desexed later, they are not given a choice. I would like to see an option of paying the higher fee for an un-desexed dog at six months, then getting a refund for the difference when the dog is desexed at a later date.

This is what they do in my local council

hahaha - thats wonderful :laugh:

a piece of news a bit on the lighter side

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10799362.Kicking_up_a_stink___frustrated_dog_snatcher_returns_puppy_after_it_messes_all_over_his_house/

Frustrated Darlington dog thief returns puppy after it messes all over his house

4:00am Monday 11th November 2013 in News Exclusive By Joanna Morris

A DOG snatcher who made off with a valuable puppy found he had bitten off more than he could chew - after the cheeky pup wrecked his house.

Days after taking the Siberian husky, in Darlington, the thief rang police and begged them to take the dog away.

He said he was fed up with the pup because it wasn't house-trained. It had ruined his house and he couldn't stand the stink any longer.

The puppy, called Max, was snatched on Thursday after slipping his lead during a walk with owner, Victoria DeCosemo.

Mrs DeCosemo, 30, had been walking along Darlington’s North Road with her three children and four-month-old Max when he escaped.

Before she could catch the errant pup, a man picked him up and ran away with him, leaving the family devastated.

An appeal was launched on Facebook and a reward offered for the safe return of the much-loved pet, who was an early Christmas present from Mrs DeCosemo’s father.

The puppy was a gift to cheer the family up after the economic climate forced Mrs DeCosemo’s husband to work away from his children, Ruby, three, Jack, one and nine-month-old Robert.

Mrs DeCosemo said Ruby had been left heart-broken and tearful following the theft of her new pet.

But on Saturday night the suspected thief knocked on the family’s door, angry at being labelled “scruffy” by the online community and infuriated at the puppy’s behaviour.

Tempers flared after Mrs DeCosemo confronted him over the callous theft and he fled the house, telling the mother-of-three that she had a bad attitude and would never get Max back.

However, hours later, he contacted Darlington Police and asked them to collect the puppy, saying that he was fed up of being called a scruffy thief and sick of the dog.

The family were overjoyed to be reunited with Max following the bizarre string of events which left them fearing they would never see their puppy again.

Mrs DeCosemo said: “I think he probably got fed up because he doesn’t know how much hard work a puppy can be and it really messed up his house.

“I think he also knew that, after it going all over Facebook, he wouldn’t be able to take him for a walk without someone asking him if the dog was his.

“It’s absolutely crazy. He showed up at my door without Max at first. I think he was probably looking for a reward, but lost his temper and got aggressive when I questioned him about why he hadn’t returned him.

“We are just over the moon to get Max back. It was an absolutely dreadful experience not knowing what was happening to him.

“He wasn’t harmed but he was starving hungry so we gave him some bacon last night and let him sleep in our bed.

“I’ve never seen my little girl so happy, it was like all her Christmases came at once.”

A spokesman for Darlington Police laughed: “This is definitely a case of poetic justice.”

Have people found their puppy covered in poo and wee after being crated for a longish time

What type of bedding is recommended and are there any other recommendations in preparing for such a journey? I was thinking of sending one of those adaptil pheromone collars to the breeder.

As a guide for you on pricing, based on information provided:

Brisbane to Perth $320.00

Sydney to Perth $290.00

Melbourne to Perth $260.00

These are guide prices only and include new PP40 crate. Actual price may vary but can be confirmed closer to date of transport.

Great, thanks for that information. I was expecting the cost to be a lot more! I will definitely be in contact closer to the time :)

wayrod - have used him and can't speak highly enough of his service. Cheaper to buy a crate and you know you are getting a clean one(no parvo) I have only flown cats around the country and always buy the crate as I get to use it many times over and they are clean.

Thanks! :)

I'd buy a smaller crate, use it for a little while and then sell it and get a bigger one. The cost of hire is not far off purchase cost anyway and that way you'll still get some use out of it for a while and get a chunk of your money back when you sell it to go to your bigger one.

Thanks, that makes sense

Contact a member on this forum called Wayrod-A lot of people have used his services and been very very happy.Can't help you with pricing though, although I have a friend who flew her sibe boy in from nsw or vic and it worked out cheaper still than buying from a local breeder here( not that price would be my main concern but anyway)

I will try Wayrod when I get closer - thanks. And yep, money for the puppy is not an issue at all.

I'm in perth and used Jetpets to get my boxer girl from qld. I opted to hire the crate and it cost around $350 (can't remember the exact amount). When I picked her up, I was able to keep the crate too!!!! Not sure what happened there lol! I was really happy with their service!

Wow that seems very cheap, are you saying $350 included the crate?

Thanks to those that have responded thus far :)

Hi all,

I am hoping for some advice please.

I am in Perth and am exploring the possibility of getting a Siberian Husky Puppy from an Eastern States breeder. I am familiar with the breed, however I have never brought a dog in from another state.

I have been through a few threads here on transport companies to use and Dogtainers are frequently recommended. My main question relates to crates and cages; I intend crate training the puppy and it seems like I can purchase a crate for not too much more that hiring and have it delivered to the breeder, which I will then be able to use afterwards? - am happy to be corrected though :) My question is - am I better buying a large size crate for shipping the puppy or will this be overwhelming for the pup, or do you think it is better to just hire and then buy a crate suitable for an adult and use a divider for use at home?

Oh, and if anyone has recently shipped a dog to Perth I would be really interested in approximate costs of the transport.

In regards to all of the above I am not looking to cut any costs at the expense of the puppy, in fact I would prefer to spend more to ensure the best possible comfort.

Any advice on the whole procedure will be greatly appreciated.

Injectable vitamin C - given for whatever reason - should be given intra-muscular and not under the skin.

I suppose it's a moot point if you are injecting as an attempt to save a dog's life... But it will abscess if given under the skin, and is better absorbed intra-muscular. It is quite a thick liquid and a painful injection. If the animal doesn't protest about it be worried. If they start to, they may be improving...

Thanks for that, what you say makes sense - I appreciate your clarification :)

Apparently a bush remedy (so to speak) is to inject 20ml vitamin C (high quality injectable ascorbic acid) under the skin. Supposedly this has been done successfully by numerous farmers and the like.

I personally would always try to get my dog to a vet for an anti-venom but if you are right off the beaten track and there is no other choice then I would try the Vitamin C. It is inexpensive and probably worth investing in a 50ml jar and a couple of syringes if you are taking your dog bush in snake season.

Disclaimer - My info if purely anecdotal, look it up on the net and never try unless it is an absolute last resort and there is no way you can get to a vet.

Baby soap bars that are suitable for hair as well will probably be very good. I know a lot of Husky owners that use Johnsons no more Tears shampoo for their dogs, so I would thing that something similar in bar form would be perfect.

Sigh, I thought I had my addiction under control and then a thread like this comes along.

:laugh:

Oh no, that is truly horrible. So very sad.

Sorry to hear of this problem.

Unfortunately it could be so many things causing it.

It could be a flea bite, some dogs get quite a bad reaction - and now you have treated you can monitor to see if the symptoms go away.

It could be the very high pollen count in WA at this time of year - treating with an antihistamine should help

It could be the food - You could try a higher quality grain free. It could be the chicken.

You can add some cold pressed pure virgin coconut oil (available from health food shops) both topically and added to the food.

I hope you get to the bottom of this without having to go through the ordeal of elimination diet.

Best of luck

excellent - thanks

sorry to barge in but who makes a good quality undercoat rake, suitable for a husky. I don't want a Furminator. I prefer to buy once and buy quality.