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cramet what part? I know one security dog that has a bark and hold but no others, don't know about police dogs - do they do a bark and hold or bark and bite? I recall a thread about it but can't remember what was said.

Something like that! :rolleyes: Schutzhund has patterns and routines you have to do, like obedience, heelwork can be quite stylised, security people don't tend to teach attention heeling, as they want the dog focussed ahead and on job and not on the handler as much. They still have to walk at heel but not the same. Bitework is also quite stylised, they are only presented with an arm etc, from what I have seen security is not as interested about style but just getting the job done. They may not know how to teach a bark and hold (well, police might? but I doubt security will) or the transport.

I've found the Schutzhund club my way to be very friendly and helpful. They were impressed with Diesel's heeling and I felt welcome to come back, even though he does not have the right temperament for the character test. What army/security/security etc do with their dogs is not the same, Schutzhund is a competition and quite stylised and specific, and they are not likely to know the rules etc.

To add to dogdude - at the moment I am not doing any long recalls as Diesel has taken to anticipating and is not holding his stays. But I am doing lots of come fores, which he loves and thinks it is a great game! He also loves finishes, so I do those at the end of the session as a treat

I agree with Monelite - you went for too long. Better to keep it short and keep them keen. End on a high

Best to train separately at first, then when they are good on their own you can do some training together. What do they do? What would you like them to do?

Re the poo eating - some dogs just do it, doesn't necessarily have something to do with diet. When I worked at the dog daycare we had several that we knew we had to watch as they were known poo eaters.

That sounds really interesting. I might give it a go and see what happens. Diesel is fairly low drive though. I have mainly trained with food. He will chase a toy if thrown but not play tug. He can do TOT for his dinner - really keen for that lol.

Maybe I'm lucky? I don't know. I've never had a fussy eater, mine will all eat whetever you put in front of them.

I don't have sound on this computer so I hope this doesn't sound silly I like how you release to the toy - have been thinking about it and it might be something for me to try to get the reward off of my body to prepare for trialling. How did you start this? Did you just do focus and then release and build up the time?

I saw you! Would have loved to see the whole thing you had planned. When I heard the name Moses I said to OH - that is someone from DOL! The dog act that did well last season had a routine and lots of dogs. Would be hard to put together in a week though, you'd have to have one already prepared.

Mine have never been to a groomer and never will (no need). Why would I spend money for someone else to do something I can easily do myself?

You can take them to the groomer for a bath for a short haired breed. I just do mine either with the hose or in the bath (was doing in the bath, but it makes such a mess!). I just pick a nice day, and they are in the sun until they are dry.

I either have one outside, one inside when I train, or the ones I am not training crated. Or I train when I walk them separately. Sometimes the ones not being trained whinge because they want in on the action, but I don't have a problem keeping the attention of the one I am training, it is too much fun :D Have you tried taking the pup somewhere different, or on a walk to train? Then maybe he will forget about the other dog.

Obedience requires lots of practice at home, where you can go over the exercises with less distractions than class and lots of repetition. Going to a class and not practicing is not going to help much. So I would recommend going with your own dog. You can use what you learn with your dad's Kelpie as well. Classes are often more about training the handler than the dog.

Not every dog needs one, and they are not suitable for every dog. But they can be very useful if you have a big strong dog that is difficult to control. Good idea to get a demo first and see how they are supposed to be used .

Steve sells them

Probably the same thing that would happen if you overcorrect on any other collar - the dog may shut down, may vocalise.

She's looking great! Good work! :rolleyes:

Boxers are allowed. I LOVE that clip Monelite! They don't even make allowances for size - the dog was off the ground half the time! JRTs rock! ;)

Would be good fun to do it with a JRT though ;)

Because Airedales (if I remember correctly) have been used in wars before - so it is in their history. Doing obedience with a Schutzhund club could help you get spiffy results in obedience if your dog has what it takes to train in drive

- I know he is big for a Kelpie but he is not THAT big! Maybe the next dog :cool:

That's really promising!

Yeah, has different straps though, thinner than halti. I haven't used either on my dogs (have used the halti with Zoe a bit), have used an infin8 with someone else's dog though (Weim). Was a bit of a nutter of a dog (nice, but very no lead manners) and I didn't get to do regular training work with it, just walk it, so not sure really how good they are.