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No always tepid /warm water. It's best to use as cool a water as the dog will tolerate for skin problem dogs but even I can't stand cold water ! Definitely not very warm to hot. Mix in the squeeze bottle it makes life easy. Some people use acv and some plain white. Some dilute some don't. Some people rinse some don't. Start with 50/50 and rinse lightly if you're a little unsure Also best to discard any unused diluted product both shampoo and vinegar dilutes . Use it all on the dog then rinse and air dry your bottles.

This is the one I get in SA

It's just the original Selsun Blue replenishing shampoo. If you go to a supermarket or chemist they usually just have the blue and the gold in a yellow bottle. The gold one is just a higher volume of active ingredient. I haven't seen any of the bottles in that link before. google vinegar rinse for dogs you'll find heaps of info Eta I just enlarged the images on that link I think they are possibly os products. The one in the middle for normal to oily hair is the same as the product you'll find here in a very similar bottle in 200ml

Hi I assume your dog is a mini schnauzer by your profile picture? 30 yrs of grooming many schnauzers with what we call 'schnauzer funk'. I have a few suggestions that are a bit off label but in my experience have produced results, in a few cases, unbelievable results where every pill and shampoo and topical cream had failed. Absolutely first up look at diet. A clean fresh grain free diet as unprocessed as possible. Next supplement like oils and probiotics. And skin supplement like essential six But here's where I get a bit controversial! If your dog has any dandruff, flaky skin, comedone bumps, yeasty issues, etc.......start with a twice weekly bath of Selsun Blue shampoo. Make sure it gets into every little nook and cranny like between toes, ear folds, lip folds, genital areas etc. make it up in a squeeze bottle with warm water and a good shake into a prediluted solution and soak the dry dog. (Instead of trying to disperse globs of shampoo through a pre wet coat. Let it soak for several minutes and rinse thoroughly. Then, rinse with plain white vinegar and don't rinse. Make sure you get the vinegar into all those nook and crannies too. The vinegar smell on the dog will dissipate quickly enough. Do this a couple of times a week for a few weeks and back off to once a fortnight over a few months. Do not use conditioner. If you are seeing results, keep using the Selsun Blue and use the vinegar rinse intermittently. Keep using moisturiser on the dry belly if you need to. I know it's a bit left of centre and off label. only you can choose whether to use this stuff, but I have used it on many yeasty funky skin dogs who have failed with everything else and had remarkable success.. A few dogs it changed nothing. In no dogs have I seen side effects. You might not really think your dog is yeasty or funky but we see it over and over with so many schnauzers it creeps up slowly. A bit of flaky skin, a bit of yeasty ear, a flew infection, chewed feet, 'sweaty' armpits, dry skin, etc and slowly but surely it gets worse and worse I've found the same to work well for yeasty poodles and spaniels and other terriers. It's hard to have the initial conversation with clients because it's an off label product. Some won't go for it, some will. All that have have been happy.

Six I'm seeing !

Hi blinkblink :-) Many premium or above foods offer a palatability/satisfaction guarantee. It is part of being able to offer what is an expensive product with first time unknown results in a way that gives customer peace of mind. It surprises me how many people say they've been refused a refund/exchange from other stores (including some big box chains) in spite of manufacturers guarantees. Some foods do not offer this, such as Blackhawk, unless they have very recently changed their policy. Eukanuba get the customer to deal direct with their Australian office but give back a lot more to help find a solution. Companies do ask that people keep the bag and receipt and if you have those, it is always worth both checking the online (or on bag) policy and contacting the place of purchase. Most returns that we accept (and there are not a lot as we try very hard to match dogs and cats with the best option, but there are always individuals that still react to a food) are left with us to distribute which we do to various shelters etc. Only though if the food is fresh and did not cause undue upsets in case of a faulty batch. On a different note, we do get folk wanting to return a bed/igloo or kennel because the pet won't use it and that is a lot trickier to manage! Sags :D Thanks for explaining that. I don't buy or use kibble anyway but it's interesting to know.

Just to be clear, there are vets & behaviouralists, then there are veterinary behaviouralists. The latter is what you need to find. People here may have recommendations if you let us know the general area you are in.

To the OP: Who wouldn't take the returned good? The retailer or the manufacturer? Some brands and some stores offer a guarantee your dog will eat it. I have returned two bags in the time I've had Scottie - once to PetO and once to Petbarn. Both times the food was very expensive and I was broke. He would not eat it. Both times I took store credit and re-used it in store - both times buying multiple items (flea treatment+ some treats one time and another bag of food + treats + some cat treats the other time). There has been a number of other foods I have given away (friends, family, neighbours) donated to the shelter or thrown out If it was a small independent I wouldn't but if the offer is there - why not take it? https://www.petbarn.com.au/returns-policy My bolding. Wow I never knew! I wonder what they do with it!

Forgive my ignorance. I haven't bought dry food for many many years. Why would a purchaser expect a refund on an opened and partly used bag? i just don't understand that thinking. Is it normal to expect a refund on used goods? If there was something wrong with the product then yes, possibly, but not because it was refused by the dog or didn't agree with the dog.

I'll put my two cents worth in. I don't think it's right to expect higher standards from successful show breeders or people who contribute via judging, stewarding, club work etc.......I think everyone should be held to the same standards. The 2 private show breeders I worked for both had several paid staff. Both had multiple breeds and bred multiple litters. They both had plenty of money behind them too. There was no scraping and scrimping when it came to every aspect of the dogs care. One was a well known antique collector, philanthropist etc and the other a professor of genetics. They both bred dogs of exceptional quality and have left a legacy of quality that still tricles down in their chosen breeds. So I say yes most certainly volume breeders can breed excellent dogs. On the other hand, I have seen with my own eyes the premises of probably a dozen or so known breeders/exhibitors where conditions were barely adequate, certainly not what I'd call ideal. That's a real eye opener. Also I have seen other breeder premises where everything was terrific and even if sometimes not to my personal standard , was certainly nothing of concern I think what often happens in these cases is numbers build and things spiral out of control. That's a reason, not an excuse. There is really no excuse for no reaching out for help, accepting offered help, or facing the reality and getting numbers down. Hoarding is strongly aligned with mental health issues so it's a complex thing to unravel.

Well, there obviously weren't enough people caring for them! I can't believe anyone aligned with good practice in dog breeding, regardless of registry or even absence of registry , can speak words even approximating some sort of defence of this situation. Or try to come up with a legitimate reason why multiple dead dogs are on a private property. I get that there may be details not disclosed, I get that details may be enriched by the media and AR groups and general internet hysteria etc....... But here we are a bunch of people who I'd hope would try to set the bar as high as possible, and we have people speaking in defence of breeders operating at what any idiot can see is bare minimum, probably way below minimum standards. Are these seriously the sort of standards you'd defend amongst members of mdba?

and lets not forget the OP said four dead dogs were removed from the property. yeah we can sit here and speculate but im seriously questioning what possible plausible reason anyone can have to have four dead dogs found and removed from their property. And Ive actually been present at the emergency clearing of a breeders property where several dead dogs were found, and a Doler at that! A couple of other members here were present that day and I doubt any of us will ever forget it, nor dealing with the very very traumatised damaged dogs that made it out alive.

They are only toy breeds so not so difficult if its a full time job. Many Chi breeders have high numbers. Yuck. Sorry. Makes it sound like they don't deserve full and happy lives simply because they're small dogs. yes. Im truly lost for words. Chihuahuas are my heart breed. I've owned 3 little darlings and they, like all dogs, deserve full and happy lives. I get that larger more active breeds may need more space and stimulation, but seriously, 120 of any breed need more than 1 full time person caring for them to get even close to it. I have worked at a couple of kennels, one an exclusive private show/breeding kennel of about 20 to 30 dogs owned by a well know person, now deceased, whose name is all over the dog world in SA. Another top shelf private breeder/exhibitor with 50ish large and giant dogs as well as boarding for 50+ pets. Well run well staffed facilities but still I am torn about the quality of life even these quite indulged animals received. And I myself have owned/managed up to 30 dogs on my own property. I know how bloody hard it is. People who visited my place, some who are members here, will attest to the facilities and standards and efforts to enrich the dogs. several were my own dogs, and up to 20 rescue dogs rotating through. One of the biggest drivers of my choice to get out of the rescue was the realisation that i thought even the rescue dogs deserved better, and believe me, they were some pretty fortunate dogs to have ended up with me. I know only too well what goes into keeping large numbers of dogs and puppies and doing it well.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/thieves-steal-giant-threemetre-inflatable-poo-used-in-a-council-campaign-to-combat-dog-droppings/news-story/b25b02751de659529d0e6bf82f45ef7c A three-metre inflatable poo belonging to a local council and worth the equivalent of AU$6,000 (3,000 GBP) has been stolen. The huge inflata-poo was part of a campaign by the council to try and combat the problem of dog droppings in the municipality of Torrelodones, in the central Spanish province of Madrid. The inflatable had been installed in the main square but has since gone missing and is believed to have been stolen. It was the centrepiece of an online campaign created by the council with the hashtag #NoMasCacas (NoMorePoos). Whoever uploaded a picture with the poo would be given a T-shirt and a booklet. But now the campaign faces being axed. The local council had wanted to place smaller poos made out of cement in the hot spots where people walk their dogs with the slogan: “This is one of the biggest obstacles for social harmony. If you have a dog help us.” The inflatable, costing AU$6,000 (3000 GBP) was installed on May 22 and changed location various times as part of the campaign before it was stolen. Local media has made fun of the news, with headlines such as “The Pride of Torrelodones has been Stolen.” Now the local authorities are looking at CCTV footage of cameras installed nearby to see if they can find the thieves.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-09/greyhound-racing-nsw-charges-179-trainers-owners/7497738 Greyhound Racing NSW (GRNSW) has charged 179 trainers and owners with breaching the industry regulator's rules, for the alleged unauthorised exports of dogs to Macau. The charges have been issued as part of an ongoing inquiry launched by GRNSW last December into suspected unauthorised exports of greyhounds to Macau. Exporting greyhounds to Macau has been banned by the regulator since 2013. If found guilty, trainer and owners face fines, suspension and possible disqualification from the sport. The GRNSW inquiry follows a 7.30 investigation from December, which revealed how hundreds of Australian greyhounds deemed too slow for Australian racing by their trainers and owners were exported to Asia, in breach of racing rules. Animals Australia campaign director Lyn White told 7.30 at the time that conditions for greyhounds in Macau were abhorrent and that "for those dogs it's a death sentence". The 7.30 investigation also found Australian dogs were racing around the clock at the former Portuguese colony's dilapidated track known as the Canidrome, and were regularly sustaining injuries, with a disturbing 100 per cent euthanasia rate. The Australian greyhounds are generally flown to Hong Kong and then ferried to Macau, where they are locked inside the Canidrome facility. The facility is located in the middle of one of the most densely populated cities in the world.

In my humble opinion to even come close to properly caring for and providing adequately enriched lives and exercise for somewhere around 120 dogs, you need an army of reliable family or volunteers, or paid staff. Even in situations where commercial numbers are housed in clinical conditions, adequate enrichment and exercise is still a contentious issue for me.

It's hard to know exactly where the answer to all this lies. Ultimately I think the best place to start is enforcement of existing rules and regulations. On registry, council, and animal welfare aspects. It frustrates the crap out of me that the state registries don't /can't uphold what is clearly stated in their rules and codes etc. But then imagine the money a breeder like this brings in for them, hmm, cynical? It's a travesty that truly wonderful registered breeders should not have to bear. It really is no wonder that Jo public just turn to gumtree or pet shop or designer dog place where all their friends /colleagues seem to be getting lovely pets from, no questions asked.

I think I know the one. If so yes very active in show circles, 'top' breeders, big winners, judges even if I'm not mistaken, but big failure at boarding from every one I've ever talked to that have used them and a person I knew went for a job interview and walked out! I'm sure there are great dog people running great facilities but there are some that seem to rely heavily on 'reputation' they don't match with service

Although it seems clear who has invested more into the dog, who actually owns it seems less clear. I think I would seek proper legal advice so it doesn't all go down hill from here. Pinching the dog back is not the way to get the best final outcome! As tempting as it would be. I'd be making sure I have a paper trail of every conceivable thing to do with the dog. Purchase paperwork, registrations, vet receipts, any other expense receipts, Right down to any record of personal conversations and correspondence surrounding the dog I believe there are lawyers who specialise in animal cases. A quick search of animal lawyer + state should bring something.

....... When I go to get him for his morning run and find he Is out in the yard with a confused look on his face looking pretty weird like he is straddling an invisible horse, and the vet bill is killing my brain until I realise he's just had waaaaaay too much fun with Big Ted At least I can come and post here while he sorts himself out !

leaves his half chewed bone on his laundry mat for me to step on the sharp corner in the dark on the way to the loo at 2am

From what i read in the OP the dogs bottom jaw is much shorter than its upper jaw. As for if the bite will align correctly as the dog matures is anyones guess. Depending on the breed and severity as to the chances. If the dog has a true 'parrot mouth' not just a slightly off bite, then little chance of improvement and definitely not an animal to be bred from. I handle 3 dogs with 'parrot mouth' and its no fun for anyone. (all the same breed, hmm) It seems the OP is trying to be responsible by recognising the dog may not be fit for breeding. Good on them. When it comes to choosing breeding animals it should always be head before heart. I hope you can sort it all out.

Ta. I've passed on your details. PS Leon. ???? yes isn't he! He is a fab dog to handle but its especially nice for me not be asked to butcher up a perfectly beautiful coat. So many owners want the tail trimmed, the butt clipped or an all over shape up which I think looks silly (but will do of course!) . I always look forward to seeing him. I trim his feet and just tip his leg feathers so they are off the ground a tiny bit. His owners keep him in wonderful condition.

This is me depend on what size dog etc. I can't take really large dogs and there are a few of the smaller breeds i won't take. Best for me to discuss things with the owner if they want to. ETA.... i also have a couple of great recs for other services if they need something closer.

Outside the box a bit....... Giant Scnuazer, Italian Spinone, the latter is on my dream dog list !