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You do come across as suggesting any product isn't good if it has any vitamin C - there are many such products that do and they don't do the dogs any harm and the benefit is huge. I would hate for people to be completely turned off even trying a product because they misunderstood and were fearful of a tiny dose of vitamin C based on reading your response and it has happened in other threads. Its not a product specific issue either as i already said there are lots of very good joint supplements which contain a small quantity of vitamin C. Just as there are raw diets which also contain a small dose of vitamin C eg the vets all natural range.

Elise - Dog training is about the journey not a race to a perceived finish line - keep having fun with Huddy and the rest is icing on the cake. Says she who is missing the journey never mind icing on a cake .

The amount of vitamin C in the RHVC is only small and a number of other foods you also may feed your dog may contain small trace amounts of vitamin C. Plenty of people will have their dogs on various dry foods and if you look you will find they contain vitamin C. eg Two examples of popular foods fed both of which contain vitamin C Holistic Select/Black Hawk You will also find that small doses of vitamin C are present in at least 4 of the other well known and highly recommended joint supplements.

I have bought other things from here but they have Roo Jerky - http://australianpettreatcompany.com.au/categories/Pet-Treats/Roo-Products/Roo-Jerky/

Just on the same topic - check out this video - totally inspirational. The video was put together by a canine rehab guru who is a friend of mine and who I owe for having had input into Kenz. https://www.facebook...639201086116394

Way to go Ptolomy and NN - fantastic work (but wouldn't expect anything less from your red kids :) they are all brilliant).

My girls are 13 and 16kg and get 2 x 1000 mg fish oil capsules. Just make sure you either get a brand that contains vitamin E or you also give vitamin E. You probably don't need to give the joint saver and the rose-hip vital but it won't hurt or cause any problems if you do give both.

My two get fish oil in addition to their regular joint supplement (both are on Rose-hip vital canine and have been for 12 months now) but I have had them previously on joint guard and glyde. My 13.5 year old BC has had plenty of performance sports in her life and the chiro vet the other week was only remarking at how well she is doing for her age. She is also nearly 19 weeks post op for a cruciate repair surgery and still really only taking fish oil and a joint supplement with the very occasional tramadol but is otherwise doing very well. Both mine also get regular chiro checks.

I have had that argument as well Erny. While I am not against the concept I do feel shouldn't that be the normal position and the right of any dog regardless of what coloured leash or ribbon they might be wearing (or not). Shouldn't the norm be you don't let your dog/child <insert whatever> approach a dog they don't know without checking that it is ok with the owner.

Never mind the yard they are probably to busy curled up sleeping on the couches indoors AD .

The training concept is overrated - Kenz says tell Cousin Rory and Kirra to just wing it :laugh:.

Ah yes Nek but will you have just trained the current dogs or given you a whole new approach to training subsequent dogs. My view is yes its expensive and out of my price range but I do believe she is actually a highly skilled trainer and teacher. The bits of "free" stuff she makes available would suggest as much.

Need 2 min for Novice have fun Tassie .

Kenz jumped the cone in her third RA pass for her title rather than the jump - duh - just as well she cleared the jump on the second attempt at the station . I still think its because the cone was higher then the piddly little 300 bar she has to jump and being the overachiever and all she just wanted to jump something more challenging.

ah yes Weasels thats because one of them isn't really a BC its a black and white mal wannabe :laugh:.

The one thing I did for a while with my young girl was to always have a toy handy. Any mouthing got redirected to a toy. Worked well for her and she is a tug fiend now. I didn't stress to much about her walking on lead. If we wanted to go for a walk I went somewhere it was safe to have her off-lead or alternatively you could have the dog drag a long lead and that I would attach to a harness. Just depends on the temperament of the dog as to whether they are going to want to disappear or stick with you and interact as to whether I would be happy for them off-lead. Another word of advice I had was to introduce the leash/walking on a lead when she was already a little tired. Good luck BCs are a lot of fun.

My girl was chased at training in the ring. She was doing Open and the UD dog left its scent articles. So its not just the "newbie" dogs which potentially cause problems.

Bugger Korbin. I have just found out I will have to keep Ness under loose restrictions until she is 6 months post surgery - so still have another 2 months to go. I thought she would be well and truely out of the woods at this stage. At least the surgeon who did her repair is fairly certain the other leg will be ok but then she is 13 and a bit so somewhat less agile then she was in her younger days.

LOL all the comments about BCs and sit stays funnily enough the only stay Ness ever broke in her trialling days was a drop stay and she sat up . Only ever broke that 1 stay in her life but not one I will ever forget as it cost her a place at the Adelaide Royal .

The problem with stays is they are boring for the most part. I never got much benefit out of luring type games as far as sit stays are concerned. I do think there is some merit to using a platform/chair to build duration. I do shorter duration stays on things like a peanu/balance disc t or even a bed or couch encourages them to work harder to remain sitting.

LOL Tassie beat me to the post. Hopefully some others will see this thread and give you some recommendations. All the best for a hassle and stress free recovery.

Whereabouts are you - somebody might be able to suggest or recommend a rehab facility. Some states are fortunate enough to have better provisions then others.

Swimming is only really good for fitness. As far a rehab and rebuilding muscle is concerned underwater treadmill is much better. Hopefully the vet will give you good follow up instructions. Might also be worth finding a physio/chiro to assist during the rehab side. There are plenty of other things you can do further down the track including balance disc work however probably well advised to seek a professional to make sure your not about to do more harm then good. My old girl is about 16 weeks post op for a cruciate repair - she just had a traditional lateral suture repair and is now in the process of rebuilding muscle and the standard protocol involves increasing duration leash walks. You can also add in things like stepping on and off a gutter and hill work to help rebuild muscle.

I was only looking at this the other day and there is some suggestion supplementation with corn silk might help.

All the best for it Marg. Fingers crossed for you.