Rosetta
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Isn't the impound time for dogs in Queensland ridiculously short also? 3 days or something like that?
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Apparently it is five days...
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/community/pets/lost-found/index.htm
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Well I have signed - its just not good enough for them to take the easy way out and not make any effort to rehome these animals. Of course they shouldn't be "dumped" but the point of the petition is to get some rescue going in Brisbane as happens in other areas. I don't think people in Brisbane even know where the Pounds are located so the chances that many people would go there to adopt is remote and since the RSPCA moved right out of town it has become even harder for people to view available dogs. I hope something can be done and I support any effort to highlight the current unsatisfactory situation.
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Sometimes you don't have a choice but to leave them at the vet unattended overnight. We don't have 24hr vets and if your dog needs to be on a drip, well you are out of options.
You can ask for them to be transferred to a 24 hour vet hospital though if there is one in your area - they are attended at night.
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I won't leave mine inside without access to the doggy door either. As for leaving at the vets overnight - I wouldn't do it. I would much rather bring the dog home and return it in the morning or admit it to a 24 hour hospital where possible. It has to be better than being left alone when they are not well with no one to attend them if in distress.
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Is it common practise to leave dogs unattended during the night? I can't understand why this is acceptable. What if they need care during the night? These were very lucky to escape.
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Just a thought - how long ago was she desexed? I wondered if it had anything to do with any surgery.
Poor little girl she is still so young. I wouldn't let a chiro near her either until a definitive diagnosis is made.
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When I picked up a little stray and took it to the vet to be scanned they were able to access the owner's details through contacting the registry.
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There are some hard and fast rules with dog pounds and the RSPCA. Someone I know was given a dog that had been owned by a drug addict who had over dosed and gone into rehab.
It was a dachshund, they had it in their house for a month, lying around on the floor playing with the grand kids, it never put a foot wrong. When they took it to the vet, the day after they got it, for vaccinations etc, the vet told them to go to the RSPCA to have its microchip read. After a few weeks they went to have it checked, the RSPCA confiscated the dog on the spot, told the new parents it wasn't their dog. Anyway after a few a weeks of searching they got the drug person to clear up the ownership problem, the RSPCA told them to come pick up the dog the next day ( there were fees to pay) after they'd done a behavioral test, when they got there to pick up their baby they were told it had failed the test and been put down. Now WTF was that about, they were devastated but they were stonewalled right out the door.
Probably failed the dolly test even though it was fine with real children - another disgusting story
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I agree with what BC has said. Poor little guy has been traumatised every time any grooming has been done - it hurts so no wonder he hates it. He needs to be desensitized and it is a very slow process. Worth it though as he has a lifetime of grooming ahead. Very slowly does it - a few strokes each day accompanied by treats. Get him used to the noises by playing the sounds of clippers/dryers in another room until he is less reactive - things like that.
Its good to know there are groomers like Sags who take the trouble to help these poor little ones - hard to find them though.
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An extra $14 paid to RSPCA staff on the days they euthanise animals is providing a "perverse financial incentive to kill" and may be driving up death rates, critics say.
The "euthanasia allowance" is detailed in the RSPCA's enterprise agreement which says it should be paid on each day that appropriately trained and certified employees are required to euthanise animals.
Lawyers for Companion Animals principal Anne Greenaway said even hardened critics of the RSPCA had been shocked by the revelation.
"It's pretty weird, very weird, that for anyone who loves animals that an allowance of $14 is going to compensate for having to put an animal down, particularly when some of them are perfectly healthy," Ms Greenaway said.
Other critics, including Sue Barker of Dog Rescue Newcastle, have described the allowance as "disgusting".
David Kelaher, an ex-union official who exposed the allowance during online debate, says he has represented RSPCA employees in disciplinary matters in the past and that if workers could "swing it" to kill five days a week, they could add $70 per week to their take home pay.
"The median wage was around $35.5K – so presuming you worked a regular 48-week year you could get a 10 per cent salary increase by continually killing," Mr Kelaher said online.
The executive manager of animal care services for RSPCA NSW, Brendon Neilly, rejected the notion the allowance provided a financial reward for the euthanising of animals.
"I think suggesting in any way that this is something that people seek to do for financial gain or otherwise is offensive," he said.
"It is in recognition that it is a difficult job that people undertake, and that people may be paid more for performing any workplace role ... with a qualification attached to it, such as a first aid officer for when they are the nominated go-to person for that particular work."
The allowance was not built into a worker's base salary because those staff members were not necessarily required to use those qualifications every day, he said.
Mr Neilly was unable to say what proportion of staff were qualified "euthanasia technicians", or how often they were required to make use of those qualifications.
"We do have qualified people at most facilities," he said.
Heated online debate over the RSPCA's handling of strays followed a Newcastle Herald article last week about two Jack Russell terrier pups destroyed at the RSPCA's Rutherford shelter despite ongoing negotiations between the shelter and the owner to pay for their release.
The Jack Russell terriers, Rocket and Nikki, were euthanised on Monday last week after being held at the shelter more than 28 days.
Owner Kylie McCrea, of Sawyers Gully, was told the family pets would be held until she had a chance to contact Maitland City Council over the $960 fee but a supervisor made the decision to put the pets down over the weekend.
Mr Neilly said an investigation into all of the circumstances surrounding the dogs' death was continuing, and the findings would be made public, but it appeared that it had been a genuine error.
You would have to wonder what he really means by that statement. Is he inferring that it has in fact happened in the cases he has represented? Or is he suggesting that by spreading the cases over several days - rather than increasing the "kill" rate - that the allowance can be maximised?
The RSPCA are far from perfect but I doubt whether this practice would be common.
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Not saying that the vets did the right thing but I wonder if the family explained why they wanted the dog PTS. If the vet was aware of the reason and still rehomed then that makes it so much worse.
You don't have to say why. If the vet doesn't want to PTS an animal that's their right but to take it and lie, not on in any way, shape or form.
I know you don't have to say why - I was asking if in this case the vet was informed of the reason and as you say and I said earlier they could have refused.
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Not saying that the vets did the right thing but I wonder if the family explained why they wanted the dog PTS. If the vet was aware of the reason and still rehomed then that makes it so much worse.
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Someone at Greencross Vets thinks they are the Dog Whisperer me thinks. : (
They should watch his show, he has a number of dogs that are never to be rehomed, because they can't be trusted with livestock or children.
I've heard of this pretend PTS before, it was with a litter of puppies that a breeder left to be euthanized because they weren't show quality. Two of those puppies turned up at the pound when they escaped from their home and the pound rang the breeder. Oops. : )
That type of thing sickens me
I can understand the difficulty in vet staff carrying out such a request and they should have refused to do so - but this particular case is not as excusable. -
Glad she is improving. I haven't read the whole thread but have you written to the company and stated your suspicions?
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Vicious morons like this are around - they think it is "funny" to sic a big dog onto a smaller one and kill it for amusement. Probably the reason many small dogs go missing.
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Has anyone bothered to read the post where OP said debarking isn't an option???
We know that - the discussion has moved on to debarking because people thought that was a reasonable option. It is informative to see information such as Mita has provided.
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I looked up the Victorian Code re debarking. There has to be written complaints from not less than two occupiers of neighbouring residences. If this woman is hearing your dog barking, even when the dog is not there... & you've never heard a complaint from any neighbours... then her 'word' alone is not enough.
And, if the council has picked up already (& told you) that she's 'odd' ... then she may well have the kind of profile that is hard to shut up her complaining. At the gentlest.... known as 'unreasonable complainant'.
The Code itself points out that most debarked dogs can still be heard up to 20 metres. Again, this is a lady who even manages to hear the dog when it's not there. And again, typically of people with that profile.... when the council provides facts that disprove her 'case', then she says she'll go to another authority.... the Ombudsman. As someone else said, that has to be about the council's actions, not yours or your dog's.
Meaning of debarking
For the purposes of this Code 'debarking' means the surgical operation performed by a registered veterinary practitioner to reduce the noise of a dog's bark. When a dog is debarked its ability to communicate with other animals and human beings is reduced. Most debarked dogs have a subdued "husky" bark, audible up to 20 metres.
Circumstances in which a dog may be debarked
This code recognises that debarking a dog may be necessary for therapeutic or prophylactic effects, or as an alternative to euthanasia for a dog declared to be a public nuisance because it barks persistently.
A dog is a public nuisance where – there have been written complaints from the occupiers of not less than two neighbouring residences or in isolated areas two written complaints from persons occupying the same residence, submitted to the Municipal offices, and investigation by an authorised officer of the municipality confirms that despite every reasonable effort by the owner to discourage the dog from barking by considerate care, training and management the dog continues to bark persistently.
My concern is how does it effect the dog mentally when its means of communication is taken away? When people say the dog doesn't notice any difference - how do they know?
And considering the last part about it being the last resort after other means have failed - people here seem to be suggesting it is the solution in this case without any other options being tried.
And - as you note - if the person complaining is hearing the dog when it is not even there then she will still "hear" it after it has been debarked won't she? So what purpose would be served by putting the dog through it?
Not saying there is never a case for debarking but I think it would be rare circumstances that would justify it.
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What a cutie - love the "doo".
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I have lived in Brisbane and that suburb is really not that bad - so judgements about rednecks etc need to be modified. Only the facts should be relevant not all this other nonsense.
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I can't believe the attitude to debarking in some of these posts. It is totally inappropriate to advocate such an extreme response to this situation. I can only say I am glad that debarking is strictly controlled when it seems to be the first option considered by some people. I can only recall hearing one dog that had been debarked and it made a hideous noise. It should only be used when the alternative is PTS IMO.
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Why do people have such an obsession with her being attractive and that the paper put her picture in the story? What, you have never seen an animal story with pictures of unattractive people in it?
And people do refer to their dogs as "puppies" - they don't mean it literally. I haven't seen her Facebook page etc because I don't really care - it doesn't change what happened. I just thought it strange that the moron was able to hide his dog so quickly - surely it can't be that difficult to trace it?
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He was found in Underwood and is at Logan Pound until tomorrow (I think!) then will be in care with ABR. Underwood Vets have several Shiba's on their books who have had eye surgery but are reluctant to contact the "all those owners"
, and cannot give out their details due to privacy laws. They did ask us to send a pic to them which we've done, so fingers crossed. I've been stewing over this and was reluctant to respond while angry, however I still am :D .
What a load of BSH. How many Shiba Inus can one vet have on their books who have had eye surgery - FFS? How difficult would it be to take a few more details from you and look up their records. Privacy be damned. A dog's life is at stake and they don't need to pass on any details to you in any case.
I totally get that veterinary surgies can be very very busy places, but their reaction is ridiculous and pompous.
I hope the photo proves helpful.
ETA: I note the dog is now safe with ABR thank goodness.
I agree DD. It is specialist surgery and the Shiba is an uncommon breed - how many could they have? Can't they even find the time for a text alert or something? Not their problem I guess
I am glad the boy is safe. He could have been stolen from anywhere and dumped. Hard to believe the owners could be local and not found him.
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I don't care about the woman's looks or personality. This is a story about the horrendous death of a little dog and the horror of the owner witnessing it. If the moron did indeed "set" his dog onto the little Pom what kind of nutcase is he??
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Why I am so reluctant to walk my little dog in unfamiliar places - poor little dog
I can't understand why they can't find the dog if the owner has been identified.
Petition - Ldh Brisbane
in Dog Rescue (General Rescue Discussion)
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Well that would seem to confirm the basis for this petition. It beggars belief that there are so few put up for adoption. Providing a service to the people of Brisbane does not mean just killing off the strays and surrendered pets