Her Majesty Dogmad

I used to get my old Cattle girl bathed/brushed at the groomers every month as she was too heavy for me to lift until I went in one day and saw through to the back where she was tethered on the grooming table with noone around - they were both talking to me at the front counter. I was very lucky nothing happened and I never went back. I have groomer friends and it is an absolute no no to leave an animal tethered on the grooming table like this but I wonder how often it happens in reality. After I read your post last night I was wondering what action you can take. I'm wondering if they belong to a groomers association, it should be reported to them as well as the RSPCA, AWL and so on. It is so terrible that anyone would lose a beloved pet in this way.

Wonderful - i just found an old Bearded Collie in Canberra for my friend's partner in Melbourne! She went down there 2 weeks ago and has had various treatments for incontinence. I'll send this on.

I am so very sorry, that is a most terrible thing to happen and it just shouldn't ever happen. Hugs to you.

Excellent Bec, welcome!

Cute - I think I can see Beagle in there but the head marking is very interesting and something I've seen quite a bit on pound dogs lately, a bit of a mystery to me!

Sounds like another offshoot of PR ...

Could be a Powder Puff cross - here's Millie that we (Iggy Rescue) rescued from a terrible back yard breeder in July - she is purebred and just over 3 kilos:

But Lhasas are quite chunky and if you mix with a Foxy it could take the size down and create the shape? The colouring looks Foxy like and the stance in the second picture. There are a few chunky foxies around!

Poor old chap and what an awful fright. I don't know why people take dogs like that into public spaces, it isn't acceptable and they do need to be muzzled. At least she was on the lead - it could have been far worse. Have you thought of treating his wound with Manuka Honey, it's soothing and healing. The snood idea is a good one. Keep him inside for now, esp with the heat.

I'm thinking Lhasa Apso cross / Foxie. Here's a description of the Lhasa's coat (the body shape is of course different but i think that's where the foxy comes in): The texture of the coat is heavy, straight, hard, neither woolly nor silky, and very dense. They come in a wide variety of colors including black, white, red and gold with various shadings. Lhasas can be with or without dark tips at the ends of ears and beard. The tail should be carried well over the dog's back. And she's gorgeous! :)

Thanks T, interesting. Here are the qualifications to become a breed assessor in NSW: Persons interested in becoming a breed assessor should: • be an ANKC All Breeds Judge, having judged the Terrier Group for 2 years, or • be an ANKC Terrier Specialist Judge, or • be an ANKC Group Judge for a minimum of 2 years, or • have owned ANKC registered American Staffordshire Terriers or Staffordshire Terriers or Bull Terriers for a minimum of 5 years and have bred a minimum of 3 registered litters. (If not a qualified judge, show competence in identifying all mastiff breeds and all terriers). I wonder how many All Breeds Judges are doing this? Mostly, and understandably, the expertise required lies within the terrier group. Vizslas are not a terrier, here's the description of the breed, including the mention of the red nose: The body structure of a Vizsla is very similar in appearance to a Weimaraner, though the Vizsla is typically leaner with a more defined musculature. Weimaraners and Rhodesian Ridgebacks are larger than Vizslas. The nose of the Vizsla will always have a reddish color that blends with the coat color. Black, brown, light pink, or another color nose is an indication of another breed. Eyes and nails should also blend with it as well I often get calls from people who think they've found an Italian Greyhound cross and would I take it, quite often they are wrong. This is the risk with assessment of many crossbreeds, one opinion won't agree with the next on which 2 breeds (or more in some cases) went into the dog.

I actually thought that some pound staff were able to become qualified as breed assessors? From what Melzawela is saying, that is not correct?

Yes T, I get what you are saying. Chis are biters (I'm not partial to them generally) but they are not going to rip someone's limb off or kill them - not even a child. Much greater care needs to be taken with large powerful breeds of dog (this includes Rottis etc) and i agree that temperament should also be considered rather than looks when dogs are assessed.

Personally I would prefer to see DNA testing done on dogs rather than have a breed assessor. This of course won't happen as it would cost over $100. I've seen a number of dogs identified as "Vizsla" crosses. Vizslas are not that common and this could well end up harming the reputation of what is a very good natured breed.

Report it to the council, it's against the law in NSW.

A fellow volunteer at a rescue org I was with had an old Akita (undesexed for medical reasons) who was a lovely old soul, esp with other dogs. She boarded him one Christmas and when she went to pick him up he was in a dreadful state, covered in blood. She rushed him to the vet but he died - vet said he'd been attacked by another dog. Kennels denied any knowledge of it - FFS. Too many stories like this unfortunately. Makes me really fearful about kennelling my dogs which would only happen in an emergency. My vet has kennels and I leave them there normally - they are walked individually, it's not ideal but OK for a couple of days if I have to.

:clap: Amen to that.

Barley's very handsome, I do like the name.

So Koolie Rescue dont commit to taking a Poodle etc. People often get the breeds wrong and most breed specific rescues prefer to only rescue their breed (which is fair enough). I cant even remember how many times I was contacted when I was doing Rotti Rescue, from people wanting to surrender their Kelpie X's which they thought were Rotties. eta: Im sure MUP hasnt got the breed wrong though, just Koolie Rescue would be making sure. Yes Clyde, did Denise ever tell you about the surrendered "purebred Chihuahua puppy" she went to collect (petshop purchase for a trillion dollars of course) which was being wheeled along in a shopping trolley - people didn't want to touch it - but it was a hefty Staffy/Kelpie cross ...

I have a greyhound in my home at the moment who was 'listed' by PR due to the fact she was in Hawkesbury pound, and she is a loving, sweet natured dog. PR had nothing to do with her adoption from the pound beyond the fact that she was 'listed' by them as my friend purchased her direct from the pound. When PR lists virtually ALL dogs in HP and BP, it is a bit drastic to say that none of them deserve to live. We arn't talking about the ones who are "nice" dogs, the bad that PR does in the way they do business far outweighs the good that they "may" do, the general public are not aware of PR's sending dogs all over the place, unsuspecting people who feel sorry for the dogs who have issues, or not being told about their issues thinking they can "fix it" the experienced ethical rescue groups who have been doing this for many years and some for decades will not take these dogs that are fence jumpers, people or dog aggressive as they are hard to rehabilitate and rehome and you never know whether they will revert to their original ways, so we concentrate and move heaven and earth for the really "nice" dogs, and yes the dogs can change once we get them home, we access them and get experts in and I for one will always go with the "experts" advice and yes I have had to PTS a couple of small dogs, one was only 4 kilos and around 12 months of age, his issues were unpredictable and I could not ethicall rehome him. Maree CPR Just responding to the idea that all dogs listed by PR are 'baddies'-- I think the problem with PR lies in the fact that they do not discriminate, and properly assess, the dogs that they are promoting. Some are good dogs, most likely these will get adopted direct by the public (as in Pearl's case) or go to legitimate rescue. These dogs probably didn't need the PR promotion anyway, but they got it all the same as they advertise basically anything canine that goes through BP or HP. I don't like PR more than anyone else, their arguments are illogical and designed to appeal to the emotion of the Everyman. What I disagree with is the blanket labelling of every dog advertised them as being dangerous to "public safety" when every single dog that goes through two fairly busy Sydney pounds gets advertised by them in some way. You weren't the recipient of the list of dogs that our posts are referring to. In some cases there were no descriptions of the breed but were listed as "Fence Jumper, Dog Reactive". As rescuers, most of us monitor the pound websites closely to see if there are any dogs we would like to take. Personally, I do object to PR getting a list of our private email addresses from one pound and using it to send lists to us from Blacktown Pound (or anywhere). Not only do they do that, but they resend the list from the first pound - why? What is the point of that - publicity? kudos? attempting to build reputation? Of course they list good dogs but generally they are highlighting what is left - these are the dogs that rescuers may have considered but rejected for one reason or another - a large powerful dog aggressive breed is going to be dangerous in the wrong hands. Most rescuers have other dogs either in their own places or with their foster carers so can't take a dog like that, let alone rehome it .... I euthanased a dog of 10 kilos last year, she was dangerous - to strangers and strange dogs and had the ability to escape. I deemed her high risk and was very upset at putting her to sleep but she'd bitten me several times, threatened to attack some children and attacked another foster dog - what would you have done? And PR puts bigger dogs than this out into the community, into places that haven't been assessed for their capabilities or suitability.

They are not a rescue group and their response says that they find rescue groups to get the dogs into foster care. They are a go between. Things were working OK before they appeared - a rescue group rescued a dog from the pound and placed it with one of their approved carers. Here we have a group that advertises for foster carers for other groups. Unfortunately not every group is diligent enough to check the suitability of said foster carers and they have never met or assessed the dog that is being sent so may end up with a fence jumping, dog aggressive pitbull.

Nor do I T but they need to be told.

Here's my reply: As a rescuer I watch the pounds all the time. I am an ethical rescuer and do not agree that DA dogs should be rescued/rehomed, ESPECIALLY when they jump fences. This is a huge risk to the community at large and particularly the case in strong powerful dogs. If the pounds were operating with due diligence, they would not be releasing these animals at all. I have major concerns about ANY rescue group that takes these types of dogs on – do they do homechecks? Do they check the abilities/habits of the new owners (ie do they take the dog to a dog park, let it off the lead and so on)? Are they 100% sure that these dogs will NEVER be in a situation where they can attack another animal or a person who tries to defend their pet from attack? Only then could it be remotely acceptable and is almost beyond the realms of possibility to cover every scenario. Please move my email address from your mailing list – I wish to have no communication or association whatsoever with you personally or Pound Rounds.

Sounds very much like what Pound Rounds professed to be in the beginning. Not to mention that a quick google search on the registrant of the website(s) brings up all sorts of armchair activism references... I would prefer that these people DON'T speak for me or my group without any consultation thank you very much! T. What's the bet that it is someone associated with PR - another money grabbing exercise. If it is them then it's laughable that they call the DOLF the stalkers, because the PR supporters are far worse.

Well I got it too and will be replying and making it very clear that I do not agree with dog aggressive dogs being rescued and inflicted on the community - ESPECIALLY when they jump fences, FFS. Nice dogs are put to sleep all the time sadly. Why anyone thinks it is ethical and right to rescue dogs like this, I have no idea. PR are a menace to society.