Her Majesty Dogmad

You have my every sympathy, I went through a similar situation twice last year and was devastated both times. You did your absolute best.

I hope these two dogs are found and euthanased asap, shame they can't do that to the moronic oxygen thief of an owner.

Absolutely fantastic, perhaps someone could forward the link to PR, they really need to read, comprehend and follow it instead of their current modus operandi - but wait, that would require some effort on their part. All they seem prepared to do currently is rake the dollars in and put photos up on a website, no temp testing of dogs, no investigation of homes on offer, no follow up and so on.

wish I thought of that. I get deleted or ignored. I just saw this post "We still need to assist financially when dogs are fostered as rescue groups rely on donations too" & "By the way, please dont stop sending in offers of fosters! Some rescues are still able to help if we provide a carer!" Would that be right? Do they send money on? I doubt it. Most rescues vet their foster carers and do home checks etc, so surely pound rounds can forward a persons name on, but it would be up to the rescue to do the hard yards of following it up. I just cant believe peoples are putting money into these numpties accounts for being the middle man, using material and photographs already published by the pounds and then relying on the rescues to do the saves anyway. Where on earth does this money go? with over 8000 likes on facebook i'd say their bank account it sitting quite pretty and i'd question how much of it is spent on the dogs. None of my questions were answered, in fact all were deleted when I asked this. Speaking as an active rescuer, I cannot see why anyone would give money to a group such as this, if they do it's because they don't understand how things work quite obviously. Not surprising that your questions are getting deleted but why should they be? Complete transparency when you are collecting money - for any cause - is what is required. All questions, no matter how awkward, should be answered, not deleted. Something stinks.

The stupidity of the owners leaves me breathless.

huh? I'd like to know what steps these people took in order to locate the owners, all I got from that was they found a dog, decided to keep it and took it to a vet. Of course it may be a dog that has been dumped but then again there could still be someone out there missing their dog. I'm sure if it is bothering you that much, perhaps you could drop them an email and ask? If they went to all the trouble they went to with regards to medical care, i'm sure they'd have been as diligent in attempting to find out the history of said dog. A video cannot possibly impart all the events and processes that occurred but I'm sure they'd be very pleased at your interest in how they do things. Why do you automatically presume they have found a stray dog and kept it? Done. I presume it because so many of the "do-gooders" out there do it. It happens time and again on DOL , so I'm pretty sure it goes on every day in the rest of the world. Can you give an example? Who are the "do gooders". Are you referring to rescuers in general or people who find a dog and keep it - the general public?

huh? I'd like to know what steps these people took in order to locate the owners, all I got from that was they found a dog, decided to keep it and took it to a vet. Of course it may be a dog that has been dumped but then again there could still be someone out there missing their dog. I'm sure if it is bothering you that much, perhaps you could drop them an email and ask? If they went to all the trouble they went to with regards to medical care, i'm sure they'd have been as diligent in attempting to find out the history of said dog. A video cannot possibly impart all the events and processes that occurred but I'm sure they'd be very pleased at your interest in how they do things. Why do you automatically presume they have found a stray dog and kept it?

KiwiNeo - I hope you have contacted the council because the only way to stop this dog doing it again is to have it declared dangerous.

What a horrific experience Kizzyneo and her little dog went through. It simply should not happen but sometimes we learn from these terrible things most. The individuals who did not assess this dog properly, did not give good advice or monitor their foster carer and have now got this dog advertised for adooption are completely negligent. They are taking dogs like this and putting them back out into society when they should be euthanased? It's madness. It should never be about rescuing a particular type of dog at all costs but that's what these particular individuals are about. With the unwanted dog numbers in this country, dogs will die. Taking all dogs on simply because they are on death row is a mistake. I wouldn't care if this was a Jack Russell, a Shepherd or a Staffy - as a responsible rescuer my response would be the same, the dog who would be gone for good.

Everything that you know about a dog should be disclosed, good and bad. If you have a dog that has killed another or seriuosly injured another dog or is in a high risk of doing so, you should go straight to the vet and have it put to sleep or you ar risking other people and their animals. Far too many nice natured animals out there, dying every day. It is completely irresponsible to rehome such a dog and should it attack/kill another dog in the future, what these people don't realise is that they could be sued. If it hurt one of my dogs, I'd be taking someone to court, most definitely and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they already knew the dog was a killer.

I rehomed a dog this year which managed to climb a very high fence during a storm in Canberra. He was gone for 4 days the first time - it wasn't until posters were put up saying he was on medication (which was true) that the person who had him decided to call up because they'd decided they'd like to keep him. His collar had been removed by the new owners - against my express instructions but he was chipped. If he'd been taken to a vet or even the pound we would have found him but as it was, we sat feeling sick to the pits of our stomach needlessly for 4 days over what could have happened or was happening to a very small and nervous little dog nr the bush. He escaped again a week later and luckily the next person was more honest - they'd like to keep him if we didn't want him back but called the no. on the tag. He's since gone to another home as a second dog, that was the key to stop him ever attempting to escape again. I cannot believe people who don't know or don't even try to find out what they should do when they find a loose animal. No excuses, you cannot presume that because a dog is loose it isn't loved or wanted and that some sort of accident/incident/special set of circumstances hasn't occurred. If you find a lost kid in the shopping centre - what do you do? Do you take it home or do you go to shopping centre management to try and find the parents?? It's the same thing. The kid belongs to its parents and animals usually belong to someone who may be very distressed. Knowing how I felt, I can't believe someone would willingly put another person through it, they obvioulsy have a zero score on the empathy scale.

With Ellie, I said I wouldn't rehome her until she'd been assessed with other dogs and in a very controlled situation she proved to be friendly. I had warned the owner that my recommendation may be to pts if she turned out to be dangerous and they understood that. She had previously lived with another dog with no issues and had other dogs come into the yard but I was very concerned when she saw my small dog and reacted the way she did but then she'd been on a rope for 12 months at that stage with no relief at all. She was very excitable on the lead when she saw other dogs although she was fine with me the couple of times I had her on the lead and she saw small dogs, one across the road and one in close proximity. She does need a strong harness and training and has had a behaviouralist out as well and the new owners have very secure fencing and have got it under control. They had a large and strong Shepherd type before that wasn't good with other people or dogs. Believe me, I turned everyone down because she required a certain home, they are few and far between.

With respect T, this is a very challenging situation. I feel for Holly's Mum but the fact is Sage currently does live with other dogs but can't be mixed as apparently it is too risky. Two experienced dog people have said she is not suitable for rehoming. Maybe if it was the neighbour who'd only owned one dog it would def. be worth questioning. Sage might have lived with other dogs but could still pose a risk to dogs she doesn't know and that's why I have quoted the lady I spoke to this week because in reality, when we rehome, we are rehomign to normal people who "do their best" but in some cases it isn't enough to prevent a disaster.

Well it's certainly against the law in NSw, probably in other states too

oops, double post

With a dog like this, unless you are prepared to keep her yourself, it would seem a highly risky rehoming. Someone who is truly going to be able to be 100% on guard and responsible all the time hardly ever comes along. I spoke to a lady last week who'd rescued a staffy cross who turned out to be dog aggressive. She said she was very careful and never let her off the lead but she still managed to attack 3 dogs at different times. I asked how this had happened. Once the front door hadn't been closed properly and the dog saw a man walking his dogs by and was determined to get at them and got out the front door. The second time she had been walking the dog and it had gotten out of its collar through struggling so hard when seeing another dog. She then got a different collar. She was in a park having a picnic with the dog tied to a fence when it saw a whippet and fought so hard to get at the other dog that she snapped the lead. The whippet nearly died and the staffy cross's owner had a vet bill of a $1000. At that point, she decided to put the dog to sleep and thought long and hard about getting a dog again after such a terrible experience. She loved her dog but simply couldn't cope with the aggression any more and obviously, in spite of what she thought were her best efforts, the dog was strong and determined and most likely the problems would have continued. It is not at all easy to deal with a large powerful and aggressive dog and it puts other people and their animals at risk.

This is the beautiful "Galliano" who was surrendered to us at Iggy Rescue about a month ago. He spent his young life alone in a backyard with little contact. We placed him with the only foster carer we had, in a family situation with ohter dogs. Iggies don't always like small children but as you can see, he's a natural! :laugh:

Thanks Nekhbet!

Is there a Uni at Armidale? Maybe someone would be heading towards Sydney for Easter and could help

I've just been treating a very sickly dog with Ivomectin as he had Demodectic Mange on his list of problems. My vet couldn't stress enough how I had to be very careful and measure out to the ml. He had to build up to the strength required over 10 days (in his food). Whilst he was on the Ivomectin, he couldn't be given all sorts of other things. It's not something I'd be using lightly unless I had been given precise instructions.

Congrats, good to see an ethical rescue getting recognsed!

Don't use Frontline full stop, doesn't work for fleas. Buy Capstar and give him the tabs for 3 days in a row. Bath him on Day 1. On Day 3 put on either Advantage or Advocate and put it on religiously on the same day every month (I do mine on the 1st of each month). No good putting Advocate or Advantage on within 48 hrs either side of a bath.

Am sending you a pm for a local pound

He's glorious! Great work everyone, thanks for opening your home to a very deserving foster dog!

bumping, I think Port Macquarie isn't too far away