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The first Bull Terrier I ever saw would have been about 1970 but they were a rare breed and never allowed to roam free like other dogs at the time. In the 70s I used to walk my crossbred dog all over the district and their were plenty of loose dogs but the only one I ever had a problem with was a Scottie who lived around the corner and he was small enough that a swift kick would make him back off enough to get past the house. By this stage terriers were out of favour so there were not many around except for "minnie foxies". No one ever got attacked by a dog if they were walking in the street. We also had a Lab who had moved in on us from next door and when they left him loose he used to bail up passing dogs but never did any harm. I can't remember ever seeing dogs really fighting or causing injuries and they were pretty much all entire males. A friend's dad who had greyhounds said the only dogs who ever hassled the greys when he was walking were Labs. GSDs were about the only serious guard dogs and they were always well confined. When I started showing in 1983 Bull Terriers had become a bit more popular but SBTs were rare. I cannot recall if there were any at shows at that time or not, when or why they suddenly became so popular. At the time some country shows were flat out to get 10 Terriers entered in the group when the other groups would have 100-150. Pitbulls and Amstaffs didn't really arrive till about the mid 90s and when the Amstaffs were first shown there were some incidents with the dogs but even more so with the owners who often seemed more aggressive than their dogs. Some of the terrier people were not at all happy about the breed being introduced to the group at the time. Thankfully since then some long time breeders of other breeds seem to have taken an interest and managed to produce some dogs with better temperament so as the numbers increased the problems decreased. Really well said. And now it seems to be declining again more in pits than ams

It's pretty obvious that dogs then were more socialised, because they were allowed to wander willy-nilly. There were still dog fights, people being bitten & many who got hit by cars. It's the media & the introduction of social-media, which highlights the bad things that dogs do now. Also, are you talking ALL Bull Breeds? If so, then you are talking about many breeds, would you prefer none of them existed in Australia? Of course I want them here, I love the bull breeds. I was simply asking when they became popular. I was wondering as to whether there was a shift in society and its preconceptions of the "game breeds" when they first arrived that created an issue and inadvertently put them on the back foot from the time they arrived, making them more attractive to the less desirable members of society because they were deemed as "scary" and "vicious", which in turn has directly created the issues before us now. Has this been simmering beneath the surface of society for a long time or is it just a new thing to dwell on and blame in order to create mass hysteria? As I posted, there were many problems with dogs back then, just dogs weren't really cared about as much. If your dog didn't come home, or got killed, it was a matter of, OH well, we'll just get another puppy from the neighbour, whose bitch just had a litter of mongrel puppies. Yes it is a new thing with media beating up hysteria to sell papers, or get ratings. So you're saying that the introduction of game breeds hasn't impacted dog ownership and the social perception of dogs at all in this country?

It's pretty obvious that dogs then were more socialised, because they were allowed to wander willy-nilly. There were still dog fights, people being bitten & many who got hit by cars. It's the media & the introduction of social-media, which highlights the bad things that dogs do now. Also, are you talking ALL Bull Breeds? If so, then you are talking about many breeds, would you prefer none of them existed in Australia? Of course I want them here, I love the bull breeds. I was simply asking when they became popular. I was wondering as to whether there was a shift in society and its preconceptions of the "game breeds" when they first arrived that created an issue and inadvertently put them on the back foot from the time they arrived, making them more attractive to the less desirable members of society because they were deemed as "scary" and "vicious", which in turn has directly created the issues before us now. Has this been simmering beneath the surface of society for a long time or is it just a new thing to dwell on and blame in order to create mass hysteria?

Oh death, where is thy sting? Such an actress

me! :rofl:

Check he hasn't consumed yours secretly beforehand :laugh:

if I ever win the lottery guess what's coming to live with me!

In my limited experience, noooooo Newfs are nothin' like labs! Less drivey, less biddable, more reserved and MUCH bigger and heavier. You can probably bribe or, as a last resort, physically move a Lab or GR if necessary but good luck moving a Newf that really doesn't want to :laugh: That reminds me of when I was walking home from puppy school and was watching a lady try and wrestle/lift he St Bernard into the back of her car. Funniest thing ever, that dog was not budging.

gull terrier

Bit small but a Bandogge? Or African fighting dog?

Mum told me that back when she was younger dogs used to walk everywhere and their owners had very little control over them. She said the breeds were usually terriers, working breeds and mixtures of both. She said very rarely did anyone get bitten seriously. When did bull breeds first become popular here?

You can get Flat Coated retrievers but they've got a bit of a different temp than goldens I think. They're quite pretty.

She's very lovely. I would still consider that quite light though, kinda like a light caramel.

OMG eye candy in here! Those fox red labs are delicious!

There are sometimes parti poodles born after generations of solid colours, sometimes a weird throwback just happens. Pretty cool if you ask me - I wish partis were able to be registered in Australia! Tell me this isn't the cutest dog - my mum's byb Toy Poodle Gretel, phantom colouring. naw, I'm not a poodle fan but I think I'm in love

Fluke is the darkest gr I've seen, not sure of his purity though

you can get the odd b&t lab can't you? eta: just read the coat colours, the mosaics are AWESOME

blue paul terrier leavitt bulldog?

yeah, I've read about the silver labs, silliness. I love the darker goldens as well :)

Thanks, I was starting to wonder if they were crossed with IS. Are there any really dark lines in Australia or are they mostly the lighter colours?

I've been watching a few movies about dogs lately and have noticed that American GRs and labs to a lesser degree seem to be darker than their Aussie cousins. Some of the GRs are almost Irish Setter colouring and was just wondering why Australia doesn't have those colours, or am I just not seeing them?

Me too, he's hilarious just sitting there :laugh: Yep! I have to say I was disappointed by the amount of dogs it did not speak about. Who cares about the Puffin Puffins!?

I think you're confusing Drawn Together with Jersey Shore :D

Campeiro Bulldog

Crass? I think you're confusing QI with Family Guy. I think you're confusing Family Guy with South Park