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http://www.saveourdogs.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Aggression-and-spay-neuter-in-dogs.pdf This one scientific study shows that desexing has a lot more problems with dogs not just health wise but behavioural too. What does dolforums members believe?

Thanks, and to all that replied.

I got the 500. Told them I had the papers. I sent them a detailed text about not being able to prove if it was a pitty or not if he gets out, and also mentioned that without papers they will have a hard time studding him out in the future. I gave them a week to pay or I was ripping up the papers and they'll never get em. That did the trick. I refused to meet them and got our mutual friend to collect.

Probably not thats why I am finding out his address from my mate. I am just going to go round there and tell him to play ball or I will. Sick of deadbeats thinking they can get a free ride.

This couple have a young daughter and both work and have vehicles of their own. The issue isn't that they can't pay, its that they don't want to pay. Most people who owe money fill you in when they will pay you back, I lend money to my dad and brothers all the time and friends with no such issues. There has been zero communication from them 3 weeks from getting the pup when they told me a week and they will fix me up. I was concerned about them as buyers but being acquaintances and the fact I had 7 puppies at the time, I thought I will help them out and let them pay off remainder. 1500 is a lot of money but it weeds out the unscrupulous owners who can't afford it. I paid 2500 plus airfare to SA for my boy. You need to pay for quality. There was only 2 boys in the litter and they got the best one. All pups have been sold bar 1 to exceptional buyers apart from these guys. Anyway gotta get ready for a funeral, will be back later today. Again thanks for all the replies everyone, this forum is full of good people willing to help. Def one of the better aussie forums I have been a member of.

I think you had better check your info - the police wont get involved in collecting a $500 civil claim for part payment for a dog no matter what the court judgement is but you need to cover yourself in writing and decide whether it's worth the grief - personally I think expecting someone to simply hand back a dog they have had as a family member because they are slower than expected in paying is asking for them to be belligerent and dig their heels in. Be nice - offer them alternatives - tell them you understand they are not able to be pay as they promised and expected to - suggest they pay by instalments etc If this were me Id say lesson learned and walk away. I have checked my info. Its all right here. Police have to enforce magistrates court orders. http://www.vcat.vic....etary_order.pdf I will be nice and I will give them time to pay but flat out ignoring my attempts to communicate leads me to believe its not a case of can't pay but won't pay. The guy basically implied that he wanted to meet up for a fight because I mentioned the police. I don't care if it costs another 500 in court fees because I will get that back.

Yes stupid me indeed for selling without full payment, lesson learned. Yeah I will find out more info from our mutual friend and will take it from there. Will keep you updated, many thanks to all that replied. Apologies I couldn't reply to each individually. If taking him to court I will need to apply at VCAT, and if a monetary order is passed on him I then have to take it to magistrates court and sign an affidavit. If the court argues in my favour then the police can enforce the guy to pay including any VCAT and court costs. p.s. I am a guy. ;)

I sold a puppy to an acquaintance known through mutual friends. I sold the puppy for 1500 of which 1000 was paid with 500 remaining. The couple said they would pay within a week and its been 3 weeks with no payment. A few days ago I sent a text after calling everyday for a week saying if they don't fix up the rest of the bill I will have no alternative but to seek advice from the police. I received a call some 10 minutes later from the buyer who was upset I mentioned police and he became quite aggressive to me on the phone, it ended with him saying I will call you when I have calmed down later. No call and I've rang everyday since to no response. He also implied the address he gave me was not the address the dog or they live. I have a contract which we both signed stating they still owe 500. I would sooner give them 1000 back and take the dog back so I can sell to people who will pay and be done with it. What are my options? They have not been given the purebred papers but don't think that will make them pay.

Rofl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLa1jmD0S18

I wouldn't buy from this breeder. 4 weeks is half the age they should be leaving there mum and litter mates. Breeder seems very lazy to me. May I ask why are you willing to pay 900 for a dog without purebred papers?

Ahh cool that is promising. My Vet charged me for 7 microchips last week and gave a 25% discount which was nice. But then I saw somewhere here at dogzonline that had microchips for 6.50 each. I remember the breeder of my boy did the implant the morning of getting the dog. Knew it wouldn't be too hard to do.

What are the requirements of the course in Vic? Hours per week, duration, cost?

Basically as the title states, I had a quick look but found nothing so thought I'd start a new thread. I'm sure its been discussed here before. Who is allowed to microchip? Only Vets? Or any member of the public? Does a course on how to inject to regulations need to be done. Breeders pay a lot to Vets for 6 week vacc's and microchip injections. Would be interested to see if we can reduce costs. ;o)

Get them to run around on concrete if you have some at your house like I do. My 7, 7 week old amstaff puppies have been outside daily for a fortnight, playing and running all over it. Their nails are trimmed naturally and no need to maintain them. Let the concrete do the work.

Don't you see the hypocrisy? The council could be doing a lot more to help new owners understand how to get the best type of dogs.

Spot on mate, it states in the ANKC's rules that a breeder has to refund all or most of the money and take the dog back if a health issue arises in 12 months. You can even face litigation if you don't comply. Yet instead of having mandatory health testing on all reg'd breeders they basically say, 'You should do health tests, but we will register if you don't anyway.' Adding, in fine print, 'If you sell bad dogs they can sue you and take your car or house.' Where are you getting this info from - could you provide a link or reference please? Sure. http://www.ankc.org....ANKC-Forms.aspx Scroll down to GUIDELINES and click the 'guidelines for breeders' link, then scroll down to hereditary diseases. "Financial risk to the breeder a breeder who produces a puppy that subsequently becomes affected with anhereditary disease must act responsibly in dealing with the buyer on the matter breeders are prone to risk of litigation if an affected puppy is produced; a defences to be able to show that all reasonable care has been taken to avoid hereditarydiseases in the breeding program." "Legal advice is that the Code of Practice for Hereditary Diseases should be adhered tofor the protection of both buyer and seller. " "Producing a puppy affected by an hereditary disease is not a crime, provided you have made all reasonable efforts to avoid hereditary diseases. The offence is in doingnothing, before and after."

Spot on mate, it states in the ANKC's rules that a breeder has to refund all or most of the money and take the dog back if a health issue arises in 12 months. You can even face litigation if you don't comply. Yet instead of having mandatory health testing on all reg'd breeders they basically say, 'You should do health tests, but we will register if you don't anyway.' Adding, in fine print, 'If you sell bad dogs they can sue you and take your car or house.'

( WoW, only 2 weeks till she is due, sorry to hear. Has the Vet advised on how bad she is? I hope all works out for you. Fingers crossed. )

I stumbled across this interesting summary of HD,ED, link:- http://www.germanshe...id=81&Itemid=90 I can understand why it would not be mandatory when only 20 - 40% of HD and ED is due to genetics. Rest is attributable to nutrition and exercise. Testing protocols vary depending on who is reviewing the x-rays anyway and there has been significant improvement in breeds over the last 40 years, link:- http://www.offa.org/...hip.html?view=2 As people have said most registered breeders health test. So the system is working and doing something right. I imagine it would be a legal nightmare for the controlling bodies and the individual kennel clubs. Other factors like phenotype utilisation techniques are far better in determining desirable breeds, link:- http://www.offa.org/pdf/hovanart.pdf My breed, the American Staffy has health tests showing normal with %'s as follows. Baer Hearing 100% Patella 99.1% Cardiac 95.5% Elbow 82.5% Thyroid 80.7% Degenerative Myelopathy 80% Hips 72% Not adding the excellent %'s to that either so results are slightly higher. 3 of the tests there are really not needed anyway, furthermore these stats are not even all purebred dogs, only the people that get dogs tested, meaning results could be higher or lower. Stats for all breeds can be found at this link:- http://www.offa.org/stats.html#breed

You can get those mist fans at bunnings for 120 dollars. http://www.bunnings....al-fan_p4441362

So even though the ANKC states this - "A member shall take responsible action to reduce the incidence of hereditary diseases in accordance with the ANKC Code of Practice for Hereditary Diseases." No mandatory testing is required to breed dogs?

My mate had a rotweiler and after a year he went to WA for a year whilst his parents looked after him. It drove the dog insane and became human aggressive. Very vicious, one of the few dogs I've been scared of. He was quite a happy friendly dog before that.

How do the re-homed dogs go with separation anxiety from their original owners? Can it mess with them mentally a lot?

nevermind

rofl And the new bmw the vets partner just bought. Australia is up there with the most expensive places in the world to live, go figure.