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Well she obviously can't know dogs that well.... And she thinks you've been had...she's the one with a labrodoodle!?

Oh dear.. Poor Zorro!! I think he looks like a sweetie :) I know a Cocker Spaniel and she's the sweetest little thing :)

Great thread :) heaps of good points :)

What??? No way I am going around slapping my dog just so he doesn't react if some feral kid does this to him. I'm more likely to slap the kid. Hehehe good point! Back when I was young (so not really that long ago ;) ) you asked before you pat the dog. Not blame the owner for not warning you when you run up to the dog and scare the crap out of it. I mean pat it. Some dogs are good with kids, some aren't. Just like some humans

Ditto

....crying baby in a Cinema! That where I lose it. Hahaha so true :p I was sitting next to this little kid at the movies once (she? was probably about 2-3 and it was The Muppets Movie.) and it kept touching me!!!!! had sticky/slobbery hands and I was sitting RIiiiiiiight on the other side of my chair trying to stay out of her way Wasn't crying, but it was DEFINITELY distracting and uncomfortable.

But it's not about children, it's about your problem with a woman who didn't want to sit next to your child. IMO, it is a problem when the dog has no manners, jumps up on visitors, gets talked to as though it's a human and understands them, gets a huge long monologue about why it's not allowed on the couch unless "Mummy" isn't at home, is allowed to beg at the dinner table when guests are trying to eat without being licked or if you're trying to have a conversation and the dog feels left out and starts barking. NOT acceptable dog behaviour - and shouldn't be allowed. This same dog was also allowed to hang around even after knocking a little 2 year old boy who was visiting! The kid was crying his poor little eyes out! And the dog's "parents" didn't even care These are my close friends but I really dislike their "parenting" techniques. I lived with them for 3 months and while I was there I did a bit of training the dog, teaching her to sit when people come in the door (sometimes works - bit hard when there's no consistency), to drop (which is handy when she's trying to eat your food when you're sitting on the lounge....) Oh and the kicker. It's a super energetic BC X Blue Heeler who doesn't get walked, living in suburbia. kept inside most of the time. (When I was living there, I let her outside in the back yard to let some steam off and they got home from work and asked why she was outside? Poor baby...) So that's my beef with dogs who get treated like children. Okay, but my comment was about people who have issues with strangers humanising dogs. Your issue is with your friends. Do you really care if I or anyone else on DOL that you don't know humanises their dog? You don't know us, it doesn't affect you personally, so why let it bother you? Gosh, I don't know Sheridan. It just seems to. Like I said in a previous post, I get an almost tangible jolt when people, (not always friends either) say they dislike kids. Does nothing total strangers do bother you? Like for example threads on Dog Forums that go nowhere and ask questions that irritate you? ;) Ok I think I got carried away in my post. But I just have a problem with dogs being allowed to run riot and then what happens when a kid gets bowled over and cracks it's head open on a coffee table or knocked into a fish pond... Stuff that total strangers do doesn't bother me, unless something they do hurts me, then it kinda bothers me :p Ok I'll shut up now

Ditto A lot of the public do not know how to contact breeders. I honestly think that the ANKC should be advertising their/and state controlling bodies websites, contact details etc. The more aware the public is the better it will be. Leanne So true!! If people don't know about it they're not gonna look for it.

You should be able to expect that a normal, adult, male/obese/whoever, can act like a calm adult. Regardless, if the person smelt really bad or threw up in their lap or something, I'd consider it within my rights to quietly find a hostess/host and ask to be moved! Sheesh! Babies and very young children are generally unpredictable in that regard, and are also not capable of reasoning. Discrimination my butt if someone doesn't want to sit next to a baby. :laugh: I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to sit next to a baby...I wouldn't want to unless it was a quiet one... I'm irritable enough in a plane as it is (sitting still for 5 hours or more? Fun...not being able to sleep? Funner. BUT I control myself and am polite and try not to wriggle.) - let alone listening to a baby cry the majority of the time. And turning up the movie/music to drown out the blood-curdling screams doesn't work unless you're trying to go deaf.

sorry not sure what you are asking? I don't really know actually. I've lost the train of thought sorry Ummm. I think what I'm meaning is.. Saying that people who buy from BYBs are bad owners because they don't buy a registered dog...is like saying that all registered breeders are good breeders. Reading what I just wrote though, I don't think that really works in this thread

Not pointing at anyone on DOL...but if they're a registered breeder...does that even mean they're gonna be a good owner? Or are a good breeder? ;)

That's true... I think educating them is probably best for dogs in general... When I was little, we got a little mutt (Poco - Maltese X Silky Terrier) from a BYB because we didn't think there was anything wrong with it...we even bred from her because she had such a good temperament I wouldn't do that now - I know better ;) But back then, we didn't know better and it didn't mean we loved her any less...geez I used to pretend we were getting ready for a show so I trotted her around on her lead and brushed her and stuff... And now my little brother is her new pet So yeah..people would probably get a quality dog if they had the option, but a lot of people may not even realise there's a difference between BYBs & Registered Breeders...

I think it's good to advertise in classifieds - "normal" people don't really think to look up a breeder. They just know they want a puppy of a certain breed. So they go to the classifieds. IMO it gets the registered breeders out there and if the ad is more professional-looking (rather than a fuzzy picture of a bunch of day-old pups), say with a picture of the mum and dad, it'll be more eye-catching than the BYB's ads. Hopefully. Although I'm not sure how all of that stacks up to the guidelines. But I'm pretty sure that if a breeder is firstly breeding for the breed...I think getting the breed out there in the public's face is also advertising the professional, registered breeders..... if that makes sense. And I might even be wrong but it's just my opinion :)

Haha good times..

If someone cannot have children and decides to get a dog and treat it with as much importance as they would have done with a child, what is so bad about that? ...um...because they are a dog, not a child. People make a big deal out of not andromorphing (sp? humanising) animal behaviour on this forum. I think treating a pet as a child AND also feeling a dislike towards children, could be unhealthy. As far as humanising pets I think it is is a 'biggie' in this area. Again, just my personal opinion. But what's it to you if someone humanises their dog? I really don't get why people get so hysterical over what people they don't know do or don't do. It's no one's business but the person concerned, it doesn't hurt anyone, so why do people get so uptight about what strangers do? People really need to get over themselves. IMO, it is a problem when the dog has no manners, jumps up on visitors, gets talked to as though it's a human and understands them, gets a huge long monologue about why it's not allowed on the couch unless "Mummy" isn't at home, is allowed to beg at the dinner table when guests are trying to eat without being licked or if you're trying to have a conversation and the dog feels left out and starts barking. NOT acceptable dog behaviour - and shouldn't be allowed. This same dog was also allowed to hang around even after knocking a little 2 year old boy who was visiting! The kid was crying his poor little eyes out! And the dog's "parents" didn't even care These are my close friends but I really dislike their "parenting" techniques. I lived with them for 3 months and while I was there I did a bit of training the dog, teaching her to sit when people come in the door (sometimes works - bit hard when there's no consistency), to drop (which is handy when she's trying to eat your food when you're sitting on the lounge....) Oh and the kicker. It's a super energetic BC X Blue Heeler who doesn't get walked, living in suburbia. kept inside most of the time. (When I was living there, I let her outside in the back yard to let some steam off and they got home from work and asked why she was outside? Poor baby...) So that's my beef with dogs who get treated like children.

Very interesting :) I like it. For the interest factor

don't get me wrong. I'm still nice to kids (geez I'm going to be teaching piano starting next week!), I play with them, I let my nieces and their friend help me wash my horse and enjoyed the fact that they were loving it, read storybooks to my little brother, etc. I can handle kids in small doses. I find them pretty demanding they have more energy than me...

See now this peaks my interest. If I was to say oh I saw the naughtiest Pitbull the other day it ran into me and shoved otehr dogs around. I would get jumped on as it being deed not breed, or more to the point oh it isn't the dogs fault it is the owners, you can't tar all dogs with the same brush. Now my kids would NEVER do those things and IF they bumped into someone they would appologise. NOw being kids they do from time to time not really look where theya re goin, I do my best to make sure they do not interefere with anyone but very occassionally they do and we both apologise. So you cannot tar all kids with the same brush. SOME kids are annoying, SOME kids are rude and disrespectful and SOME kids do the wrong thing. That is not to say ALL kids do it. My kids do not, they have boundries and disipline and I find it a tad annoying when my kids are lumped in with badly disiplined and supervised kids. In my previous post I said all the good experiences I've had with SOME kids. GOOD kids. My SECOND post was about naughty kids. Which seem to be the majority. Apologies to those who thought I was talking about their kids who are well-behaved. I wasn't. I was talking about the majority of kids that I've witnessed who are ferals. I realise that a lot of kids don't look where they're going - but where was the parent and these kids don't even apologise

Yikes. I had plenty of affection as a child - doesn't mean I like kids. I don't see the correlation... All I know is I find kids frustrating. Just last week at the shops - trying to walk from one shop to another and got jumped in front of by two kids. One who was playing a game with a ball (throwing it in the air, running after it looking at it the whole time and catching it! IN A SHOP!!!) and bashed into me - solid kid too... The other was in la-la land, no parent to be seen & he was probably about 7-8... And kids aren't innocent. They know stuff is wrong and they still do it.

I don't like kids. I don't want kids. I like animals, because they don't require you to be stretched all over your body and poked and prodded and all that kinda stuff. they don't whinge, you can train them, you don't have to worry about going to an M-rated movie with a dog because they're not allowed......... I absolutely agree with whoever said that you won't invite someone over if their kid is always interrupting...I have a friend like that...the kid is always climbing on her, talking, whinging, making noise and asking for things. I feel like I have to talk over the kid so I feel rude too I feel ill when I hear babies crying. I start going insane if they're crying for extended periods of time. (I don't know if it could have something to do with the fact that when my little brother was about 6 months old and I was 15, I was babysitting for about 2 hours. He had been fed, had just got up from a sleep, was clean, etc. And he was still crying for AGES. I was cuddling him and saying it's ok and put him down but that made him worse - tried everything!!! And he wouldn't settle. I think since then I've been completely well and truly put off ever having kids ) I like kids when they're old enough to have a conversation with, not when they sit there like a stunned mallet. My little brother (now 6) is better than me at talking on the phone - will ask you about your life, what's been happening, etc. it's awesome he visited the in-laws with my parents a little while ago and my nieces were also there (similar ages, slightly older) and while they were running amok he was either sitting quietly with the adults or sitting quietly with the girls (or playing politely!). So I like well-behaved kids. There's also a little girl at church who's my brother's age and she always comes up to me and says hi and asks how I'm going and then goes to play with her friends again, giggling the whole time so cute. RE: the plane situation - if they're going to be bawling/whinging/wriggling the whole time I'd go insane but if they're able to be quiet and sociable I wouldn't mind. You'd have to be real keen to take kids on a plane IMO...small, enclosed space....small, loud children....close proximity to the public

I had no idea buying a puppy was that scary!! Some of the stuff I wouldn't have even given a thought...but good to read though. I will admit, I find breeders a bit intimidating at the best of times - I realise there is a lot involved in bringing on puppies and the like...so they don't want the dog going to just anyone... I'm just amazed how easily a breeder is put off by the first email if it's not exactly right...

So true B&J - I used to have my dog in a yard which used to be a chook pen - so it was huge, with a nice kennel and a couple of trees for shade (just while I was at work) and he still managed to get out. ended up having to tie him up so he didn't go walkabout during the day. Although he is MUCH happier now that I don't work full time

This Policemen should have to have a better shot than that??

Mine sleeps outside - he always has but he has a couch on the verandah (tends to use that in winter) or he prefers to sleep on the ute...he flipping LOVES that ute. Or any ute. I've always had dogs outside...on a farm it's nigh impossible to keep a dog clean. When I wash him I might let him inside for a little while as a treat (for me more than him) but otherwise he stays outside. Or on the ute with my husband going around the farm - his favourite thing to do

Eek I would be quite horrified if something like that happened to me with my dog! Although, I was once at football in my small town with my dog (I'd had him about 6 weeks and even though he was 3, hadn't had much socialisation so I was getting him out and about to give him more confidence) and he was on a lead and everything. I was talking to someone and he was lying on the grass behind me when about 8 kids under the age of 10 came running up to pat and cuddle and climb all over him before I even had time to think or speak. Luckily for me, he actually seemed to enjoy it. And I was super relieved (and found out that YES my heart can beat that fast). He's come even further since then and even likes cuddles from me (not just sitting there waiting for it to finish........) I do think that as dog owners we need to get our dogs used to "interesting" situations. But in the case of an older dog, some can tend to have issues that cause them pain when petted in certain places (my Aunty used to have an olllld little dog called Lucky who would snap if you touched his back) and you have every right to be upset/angry about a strange kid coming up and trying to get your dog. For the dog's sake and the child's!! Just my 2 cents (Off to do my intro post now )