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lol normal ones this time lol nice piccy of your bum there Sam hehehe lol hubby is just setting up web page and driving me NUTS :rolleyes:

lol there was even a aussie shepard to argue about Hedds!!! lol not as many pics as i had hoped LOL too busy having fun!!! Hubby playing with my images!! funny looking dog arrgggh hubby is frustrating me try clicking on the photo to humour him please!!!!

lol there was even a aussie shepard to argue about Hedds!!! lol not as many pics as i had hoped LOL too busy having fun!!! Clover & Elvis

we will have to organise another sparrows fart start YB before the daylight savings kicks in

lol if your club is VCA affiliated, they require sme proof from memory like showing a vca card? we hope to be there too just have to get a lift , after driving to wonthaggi and back the day before im gonna be knackered!!! so has anyone got any extra lanyards i could buy from them?? or is someone ordering them soon we could wear them

geeze kelipe-i I have to BE at clovers front door step AT 6am!!!! with crowbar to drag her from bed

Hey Mechelle if u want to come on saturday we could car pool and i can pick u up at 6am from Rhi's?? if i take the cruiser should be plenty of room..you might have to sit in the front with me Rhi sounds like she will be bringing her doona and pillow for the back seat

i thought it was fixed yogi?? 7.30 saturday lol im prying Rhi out of her bed (she might arive in pj's) at 6am or Elvis will throw a fit being left behind again hehehe sunday we have flyball training from 10am so saturday was my only day i could come

I think Yogi said 7.30? so if it is going to be hot we would get some herding done while it is still coolish. pippi may be coming and Clover with her elvis as well, no ducks i will leave kira at home we are working on a date and i will keep u posted

well if you are KC i can PM you their details

Have u moved to vic KC?? lol was looking on a map nowra to lancefield VIC is 9 hours???

they are seeking VCA approval, pretty much they will run everything i will supply land and a porta potty and some labour helping to set up LOL well it might stop hubby complaining im always going away

so any ducks yet Dave? Looking forward to next week

congrats wagalot!!!! and congrats to cooper too!! it can be addictive :D im sitting here typing when i would have been diving to the trial *pout* I hear Hope and Fox also did very well!! any photos from friday guys?? It will now be a week before bodie gets to see sheep poor thing, he is having withdrawlas and giving the chickens the "eye"

Apparently they had 15 dogs today, and it has been called off for tomorrw *stamping foot* NOT FAIR!!!!!!!! bloody work i have been looking forward to this for 5 months, but because i started a new job no time off :D so i miss the one day they do get thru :p will speak to Di later hopefully.. see if it is to be rescheduled or not.....

lol from the amount of barking at the last trial i dont THINK it will LOL im going to give Di a call wed/thurs next week to see that is going on so i will post what she says LOL i can just see the dizzy sheep falling over from watching Hope hehehe

And does it mean that if it isnt too hot on the 30th there wont be a test on the saturday ??

LOL some of the toller markings are quite familiar LOL

Hey Nat I read somewhere in the big toller book that the toller was a multipurpose dog originally and was also used for herding!!!

I dont know enough about other styles of herding to point sticks cacharel ;) and im not too proud to say so. Every now and then Bodie pops his head up when he breaks concentration, my first trainer was very adamant about checking my photos before i posted them, she cant stand some of the photos posted as it can show the dog in a bad light (such as chasing or cutting sheep out or even working too close), I think in her forum they are more purists and in 3 sheep trialling it so more important not to give a bad impression as they have long memories. I have been told 3sheep is very eliteist and used to be just for the "big hats" hopefully this will not spill over to ANKC herding, BTW ANKC was designed for show dogs to show they still have retained instinct and can be trained ... how many breeders or owners do you think also run a sheep property or have land?

They were considering cancelling the lancefield saturday herding tests due to lack of support I dont know if my post about that contributed to this thread, but there is about 5 people now interested in going and have expressed their interest, (all who have been training with sheep supervised) Hopefully they have not now been scared off! Maybe in NSW & QLD there is a lot of support and it is going strong but the last trial i went to with all the tests & trials was over in 1/2 a day due to a small turn out.

the problem with that comment Tracey is you can never controll what people think or their perceptions you will always have people going off 1/2 cocked and determined to believe the worst if we continue to cater for the lunatic fringe and the pessimists we will never get to do anything and may as well give up our dogs as they are germs machines and might likk our children *sigh* yogi dont give up!! this is something you and conner enjoy!!! this is one of the reasons herding is struggling, people want to get involved are willing to help and get put off by politics and power stuggles, Our trial training is run by some women, who have decided the best time for training is at 5pm, never mind those who work, it is more convenient for them to do it then so only the unemployed or retired are able to go to this session, to hell with them im not letting that stop me doing my own training and im sure not letting this stop me enjoying herding, but unfortunately it will make me second think helping set up herding in our area or getting into organisation part of it with the VCA which needs more support

The only problem is Vickie that has pretty much wiped out 80-90% of the ANKC registered dogs, im not saying anything more of that or it will end up being another show/working BC fiasco. I do agree some of the photos are of dogs chasing, even the vic herding site has a pic that looks like a dog charging up at a sheep cutting it off from the flock??? So no one who doesnt herd for a living or own property should herd as it would only be for fun or titles?? there has to be moderation in attitudes

I think the other dog that did instinct with us had a long lead still attached.

I think some times the phrase "play with sheep" used on DOL may have been misconstrued from the self depreciation of the handlers skill it meant? I agree with Vickie that all training should be under supervision as you need the help for you as much as for the dog as well as for sheep protection. Some of the problems come from you not knowing what to do and confusing the dog and it getting frustrated. My dream is to give yard trials a go, but i need training and experience and ANCK herding is a path I have chosen as we are eligable.