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Where did anyone suggest your dogs ate their own excrement, poodlemum? We must have all missed that.

Word from a spectator was that the exhibit was poorly conformed, not well conditioned, had sparse coat, the hair in the ear canals had not been plucked, reach and drive was missing, in fact, the exhibit had rotary action - in all, a poor quality exhibit, not worthy of an award. In fact, I hear the exhibit was non awarded, and escorted from the venue. Very disappointing for the spectators, who were expecting to see all quality. Not worth perving on at all Edited to add - the judge tried to ascertain whether there were two fully descended testicles in the scrotum, but it was feared the exhibit would bite if examination was continued!

Breeding the Scottish Fold Cat is out in Victoria. Now they have had such an easy win with that one, the way is open to banning dog breeds. PDE has already proven that purebred dogs are unhealthy, so they should be banned. Why the government would take a biased documentary of evidence of anything probably shows the mentality of our politicians!! Cavaliers first. They suffer from syringo. Of course, many other breeds, and people do too. I wonder if they will prevent people who have syringo from breeding? In the dogs, it must be due to that horrible in breeding, but how does that explain it in people. I cannot believe that EVERY PERSON who is afflicted by syringo is so because his mother is his sister!! Although it might be the pekinese - minority breed, not many breeders, no one much to kick up a fuss, cause sure as eggs, no one else in purebred will be bothered to stand with the peke breeders.

Oi, enough of that. You do't have to be in the sticks to have a slow connection./ How about posting aphoto of he finished product??

Cocker National 2006 - What could that be cuddled into her? It's not a - gasp - Cocker Spaniel. How unusual!!

did his tinfoil hat poke your eye out?

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE WINNERS ;) HUGE CONGRATULATIONS TO MARGARET COLES, MASTER BREEDER FOR THE YEAR FOR THE SECOND TIME ;) ;) ;) HOW BLOODY GOOD DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO WIN TWICE RUNNING? PRETTY BLOODY GOOD And if anyone deserves it, this delightful breeder does. A breeder that one day, when I learn a bit more, and have a little more experience, I hope to be like. YOU GO GIRL!! Master breeder - 2009

You're right, they've wrong. At least you got the best outcome you could for Cody. Well done for having some humanity and decency. Now you can report them to the council for having an unregistered 6 month old dog. It wont be long before that one is on the move too for messing up the back yard.

Poor Milo, RIP little guy. The dogs should be euthed. Dogs like that shouldn't be alive. Hopefully the council will take care of it. I think your friends should write to the council, just to ensure it is done.

What has worked before, so will probably work again - is letters to the editor of the paper - not nasty ones, well argued, well written ones. Letters or emails to the council and councillors. Contact ACA or whoever with the aim of getting a story on this on TV. They may not do it, but then again - contact all current affairs programs. Sounds like an over enthusiastic ACO to me, without reading much about it, so public pressure needs to be applied via the media, and to the council.

Troy calcium is cheaper than Sandoz, and exactly the same. You can do all those things, feed raspberry leaf tablets during pregnancy etc. I give milk, glucodin or honey (for energy) and calcium during whelping. Some bitches are just not good whelpers. If you encounter the same problem in the second litter, consider an elective caesar. And, if she is slow between deliveries, consider a caesar THEN. I would also get your vet involved, and have some oxytocin on hand to strengthen contractions. It's very problematic - you think the time will be shorter for the next whelp .. and it isn't. You then hesitate to caesar a bitch who is whelping. Just when you are considering a caesar - another whelp pops out!! My experience suggests that in a case like this, it is probably better not to breed the bitch again, as these problems seem to persist from litter to litter. However, having said that ..... the next litter could all pop out really quickly. You dither at 3 o'clock when it's been 3 hours, and you dither so long that the last couple of whelps are dead and you need a caesar anyhow (voice of experience). You need a crystal ball!!

For a balanced view, I suggest you use the search facility on the forum (right hand side top), ask for "tail docking", and ask for more than 12 months ago.

Wash the dog.Use flea products on the dog. If that doesn't work, teach the dog "down" and provide a bed on the floor. Teach the dog to close the door. Secure the door so the dog cannot open the door. Train, train, train. Train, train, train Enforce boundaries. Let him know that he cannot have anythin he wants Housetraining. Take him out, stay with him, call him back when you want him. He shouldn't need to go outside 3 times per night. Refuse to take him out more than once. T ake out on lead if necessary. Close door to spareroom. Train bf to take dog outside. - rrrrrrrrrrBf needs to be consistent, and aware that dog is not doing what he is asked.You may need to provides some training too. There, I fixed it

And, Longcoat, your interest in dogs is? Registered breeder and exhibitor? Non registered pet owner? APBt owner? Which?

When I ordered a show puppy, I asked for one which wouldn't trip me up in the ring,causing me to break something!! You're not the only one. On leads - buy the best ones you can find. They usually have good quality snap hooks. Someone told me he bought a labrador pup, which wasn't cheap. He saved on the equipment, and bought a $2 lead at the $2 shop. Looked ok. No problems, until the pup was 8 months old. It saw a dog across the road, jumped and pulled on the lead, the snap hook gave way, he ran across the road, and was run over by a car.

It's a free country. The pup was donated, so the person who donated should get the publicity. And "local breeder" sounds better to me than "puppy farm" Write if you want to.

WRONG! Group 3 dogs, in general, are not supposed to show tenacity of bite or any HA or DA tendencies, and supposed to have soft mouths. Guide dogs, for example, are not insecure and unstable. Sadly, they tend to get bested when a DA dog under some idiot's lack of control attacks them. I agree with most people that focus should be on the owner. I think any bloke whose dog attacks a guide dog should be castrated and locked up for awhile . . . after that the dog issue may subside. But legal systems are not very good at targeting yabo owners. Nuh. Any breed can be "game". Greytmate explained about greyhounds, terriers can be game, it's not dog aggression, it's courage and guts. I don't know heaps about a lot of Gr. 3 dogs, but some cockers are very game. I have one who is, he is safe and trustworthy with kids, if he fetches a bird, not a feather is ruffled. He'll kill rats though. He has been set on twice by bigger dogs, and bested them - he simply pushes them over and stands over them. He wins by force of will. If he was set on by a serious fighter, he'd be dead. He's a very secure, stable dog who is extremely good natured - and fits the cocker standard for temperament very well. I've owned a few over the years, this is the only one who is "game". It is about stability. Have a look on the forum - a lot having trouble with dogs have fearful dogs, with no nerve. And I think guide dogs, when working, would not even consider taking part in a dog fight. Which doesn't make them insecure, only well trained. A dog will good nerve is a good dog, he behaves well because he is confident and secure. A game dog is the same, only better, but he is often not a dog for the novice owner. "Game" is about nerve and bottle. Greytmate The dog with good nerve doesn't hesitate. The game dog probably jumps on it, or looks under it or pees on it.

Oh, I don't care much either way. As Crisovar says, just one step closer to the ultimate goal. I would think it is sad for younger breeders, but if they are happy with it, it doesn't matter. It wont affect me anyhow. And of course, if there is only 1 in your class, you win all the time.

Absolutely. The overbite has to be very bad for it to cause problems. Likely problems could be difficulty eating anything "hard" and top teeth cutting bottom gums. I have bred a pup with an overbite. As an adult, the overbite was about 2.5cm, and the dog was not affected at all. He doesn't look quite right around the mouth - but most people who see him never notice. They will never have to spend anything on his mouth. Have added a photo. As PF says, the lower jaw finishes growing last, and the bite could improve with age, and a change of teeth. If the pup is a pet, I would still buy him. I would, however, ask to speak to the vet about it to ensure that it is unlikely that it will cause problems in the future. I expect he will say "no". Just say nicely to the breeder - "I don't know much about this, do you mind if I ask your vet about it?" Unless it is a very bad overbite, it is unlikely to be a problem. And be aware that it is possible for an experienced breeder to purchase a pup with a perfect mouth, only to have it go "out" when the adult teeth come through. Stops the dog being shown (or winning a lot), but doesn't affect the health. Dogs are not machines, and if you buy a pup, expect some imperfections. There will be some, even though you may not notice until later!! Here

Hi Jazz, and welcome to the forum. All sounds very good to me. If you are worried, I would get her some puppy pads. If she uses them while you are out, great - and if she uses them when you are home, it wont matter. If you are out for a little while, she can probably hang on, but if you are out longer, the puppy pads will prevent accidents. I had puppy pads for a couple of mine, and they used them when they were little, went outside sometimes, and when they were bigger, simply went outside. So I think that would be fine. She seems pretty good, I don't think she is waking you up too often at night. Pups don't have very big bladders. How about some photos??? Love to see her.

If you do add an egg, cook it slightly first so that the egg white becomes solid as dogs have a problem with raw egg white OR just give the yolk. Sorry that's incorrect. It was believed that feeding egg white was detrimental, but the yolk balances it. Feed whole eggs. I would add a little mince (nothing else) to the older one's diet for a week or two, gradually changing from tins to mince, then gradually add a little vege. Dessertspoonfull maybe. It's because she is old, and the changes take a bit more time. And the addition of eggs and fish is good too,but again, a little at a time. Give a bone once a week to begin with, or a chicken neck. The problem is most likely the veges, as the food the dog has been having wouldn't have veges. Be aware that with the itches, raw food may not solve the problem. Sometimes, if something causes a skin problem, it takes years for it to develop, because the skin is gradually being deranged, but there are no obvious signs. Then, after a long period of time, the changes are apparent. Unfortunately, it can take a while for the skin to return to normal. So don't expect an improvement in a week. Good luck!!

Mark Shepherd (Sheppard??) I believe, Kissindra. He attended the seminar at Monash, but left before question time. I don't believe the CCCQ perceives there is a problem. The CCCQ aided the government in implementing BSL, and they ran seminars to teach council ACO's how to identify "pitbulls". Because they thought that by doing that, the purebred dogs would be safe. It wasn't terribly popular with members. But they did it anyhow. Now they have decided to ban first generation matings, saying "no one much does it anyhow". I believed then (and I told the CCCQ) and I believe now, that instead of knuckling under, the CCs should be saying "we are the premier dog organisation in this country" (and they are), and you should listen to us, because we are right, you are wrong, and this is all bullspit." Many people don't perceive the problem. Some breeders believe that what was shown on PDE refers to another country, and there will be no spin off here. It was only a TV show, after all. Others believe that stopping people line breeding is a good idea, some believe that we do not attend to health concerns enough.....blah blah. Many believe that their dogs are perfect, and it is all those other dogs and breeders who should be regulated As some were in favour of banning pitbulls. And some were in favour of banning tail docking - because they didn't like it, or didn't want to do it, or didn't have a docked breed. Now they are arguing about showing docked dogs, presumably in case they have an advantage, and beat the long tailed dogs. They fail to see beyond their own tiny sphere. *sigh* They don't understand what history shows us, they don't understand how implacable animal rights are, and they don't believe that animal rights wants to prevent dogs being bred. Issues which have come here from animal rights in America include "breed only for yourself" and "don't increase the numbers in the pound" and "breeders are responsible for numbers in the pound", "there is an over supply of pups" and quite a few others. Unfortunately, over the past 15 years or so, the culture of the CCs, and breeders have changed to embrace that culture. Once, no one worried if a breeder had 10 or 12 litters a year. It was presumed that they could care for them, and they did. That's where you went for your show dog. They had a lot to choose from, and they were more likely to get a top one from 20 than from 2 and if they probably bred when they didn't want to keep one, so your chances were good. Now anyone who has more than 2 or 3 litters annually draws a lot of raised eyebrows. In fact, most breeders wont talk about how many litters they have. No matter whether they have 1 or 10 The general tone of the public, as witnessed on this forum, is that it is cruel to allow a bitch to have pups. Bitches shouldn't have pups, they should all be speyed, and the general tone is sorrow for the bitch, and commiseration. Bitches love having pups, that's what nature made them for, yet it's suddenly horrible if they have pups. And I am not talking about accidental litters, I mean the overall attitude to whelping. And that culture has led to a reduction in number of registered dogs bred. Not by itself, natural attrition has played a part. Now there are insufficient breeders to pay enough to counter moves by animal rights. Nearly all the long time breeders can see where it is all going. Because we have the benefit of hindsight. With each new "regulation" a few more breeders will wander off. No one much will notice, numbers at shows will fall, it will be difficult to obtain a pup. However, with the current anti-purebred promotion and advertising, the public probably wont care. By the time it is apparent what is happening, it will probably be too late. And I suspect the vets will notice first. It will take a while, but their incomes will drop. No breeders = no pups = no dogs to treat. And once breeders have walked off, and most of the dogs are a slew of various other breeds, and the shit hits the fan, with problems galore, there will be no well of well bred, healthy purebred dogs to breed to to improve matters. I personally disagree with outcrossing only, and that would make me walk away. I also disagree with restricting the use of "popular" sires. I've used popular ones, and ones no one has heard of. I use the dog most likely to give me the best pups with what I have. As for outcrossing to another breed - pffft. I'm not a terribly enthusiastic show person. Sometimes I show, mostly not, but I don't want to breed crap dogs either. I want to breed them to the standard, and doing that ensures they will be healthy. One I bred was BOB last weekend, and another, orfanother breed, was puppy of breed. I'm certainly not mating a boxer to a kelpie to avoid epilepsy, and producing crap dogs in the process.

Here's hoping they bring in the FCI to Australia!! Highly unlikely. However, if they do, instead of 2 to 4 in show classes now, there will be 1 - 2, and some classes with no entries. Yep, Crisovar, we're nearly there

Oh well, people will have to buy bobtails, send bitches to NZ to whelp, or import from countries where docking is legal. However, I suppose when the new breeding authority demands that breeders outcross to another breed to eliminate perceived problems in their breed, no one will continue to breed anyhow. So whether dogs are docked or not will be a moot point. As far as boxers are concerned, the country of origin has the support of the FCI to ban the exhibition of natural bobtails, so any country adhering to the FCI standard will not allow bobtails to be exhibited. And white boxers are also going to be allowed to be registered and bred with.

sandgrubber Sounds pretty right to me. I think my story and that of Tarmons, who knew the people involved, are basically the same. Tarmons knows more detail. Normal dog behaviour - in the situation. That is how some dogs behave, particularly with a little "training" lilli - Mrs. Stringer didn't climb the fence, she was on the other side. And she may not have said "naughty boy"", but it was words to that effect.