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Hopefully, he didn't eat too much, and the improvement continues. Thinking of you. Are you there too Lilli?

I know I sound like the voice of doom and gloom -- but I am not, really!! Standard schnauzers do need someone with a bit of experience and they do need training, but I guess your sister does have some experience with dogs? Schnauzers in the hands of experienced exhibitors are complete pussies but I am sure the breeder will give them assistance if needed. Not bagging them - great dog, but not an "easy" dog like a Cavalier. Just so they know. And Schnauzer pups are to die for - such great little people with huge personalities.

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Becks - 4 generations is accepted as pure in any species - genetically. The rest of that paragraph was a statement of what happened "genetically" --- I have some idea what is happening with dalmatians, but am not involved Goes by percentages. The only registry which will never accept "upgrades" is the Arab Horse Society - 15/16 is a good as you can get no matter how many crosses you do. The piebald or white spotting gene can be responsible for deafness in dalmatians and boxers -- and maybe other breeds that I don't know about. There is plenty of information on the net and in books about it. Deafness is due to lack of pigment on the ear drum.

Shortstep - the bobtail gene is not adding the potential for spinal deformities, as you mentioned. There is no liklihood of that happening. Sorry to seem disagreeable, but it is a biggie for boxers and their breeders. Please read the website. The bobtail gene was introduced so breeders who would not continue with tailed dogs would not abandon the breed. Many breeders will have neither bobtails or long tails and a wealth of knowledge and expertise has walked away from boxers. Kirty - Dalmatians have different tail carriage and set from boxers, thus reducing the potential for broken tails. RSPCA seemed to believe that every breed carries the tail exactly the same. The LUA issue has divided the dalmation community in the US, and many breeders do not believe the LUA issue is genetic and believe insufficient research was done prior to introducing the pointer. And of course, many dalmatian breeders will not accept the dogs as purebred. There was recently a vote in US - not sure what the result was. Shortstep, don't worry, when animal rights insists on backcrossing, and no line breeding, so many breeders will walk that the state CCs will finally come to their senses and jump up and down. That's if they have enough income to continue.

So sorry, it's hard when they are so special.

No further suggestions - but I think you said earlier he was quite keen on the fowl? So killing the duck is nothing new. I've had some lovely dogs (including a wonderful cocker girl) who were instant death to ducks or chooks. This is general information and wont be much use to you ..... I have read a few studies which have concluded that desexing male dogs does lead to an increase of aggression. This is out of sync with bite stats recording etc - but I think it is valid.

Yep, happened to an exhibitor in Qld too. 6 months suspension, and no assault was involved. Poodlefan, the CCs can act on any breach of the regulations, providing someone is prepared to report it. And they mostly do act, more so now than in years gone by.

shortstep That is incorrect Here is the website, if you would like correct information www.steynmere.com 4th generation is accepted as genetically pure, so I suppose it was accepted for the Dalmations too, by the governing body -- and I suppose some breeders will embrace it, and some will continue to state the dogs are crossbreds, and should not be registered

Uh oh, it got longer stonebridge!! :D Wasn't changed though.

My internet is too slow today to see it, but if that is Jesse the JRT, there are quite a lot of videos of him (her?) all good watching. What a great little dog.

I haven't looked at this thread for ages, feeling it was an absolute wase of time, but just spotted this response. Steve, Dogs Queensland have heretofore conducted themselves no differently to any other state canine body in regard to complaints and inspections, in my direct experience in working with the various councils and from what I have been told by interstate breeders. In my experience it has been the Queensland canine council who have taken anything put to them more seriously and are always communicative in regard to the outcome of anything. I've approached interstate canine controls about matters, and have yet to receive a response !!! I am sure there are plans afoot in regard to what to do about non-accredited breeers, but as I don't work for Dogs Qld, I'm not aware of them. It stands to reason that there would have to be some plan involved, either to have all but perhaps probationary (for want of a better word) breeders to become accredited, or something which encourages and makes it mandatory for the remaining breeders to come on board with the accreditation scheme. To be honest, I personally think the breeders who don't wish to come on board, (a) don't have the right to criticise and belittle those that have done so, or the scheme itself as they are not part of it, and (b) are the ones doing themselves the most harm by creating suspicion about themselves with their own reactions to the schemes intent of more stringent monitoring, insofar as other breeders and the general public are concerned, at a minimum. Yep I agree. Now its in - the time for critising it is past and I encourage all Queensland registered breeders to sign up. Publicly bagging out those who are already in is very much doing all registered breeders an in justice. That's your opinion, you aren't a DogsQld member, I rather imagine the members will have more say that you do. I don' know that we need the advice, thanks, unless you want to give a reason for giving it. Edited to add - what an interesting thread. Most DogsQld members are against the ABS, with the exception of Wags, and one DogsNSW breeder member and one SA pet owner are in favour of it. Apparently the further away from it you are, the better it looks. The ABS was obviously created to appease animal rights. I don't know why DogsQld can't seem understand there is no appeasing them, and rolling onto your back for tummy scratches wins you NO friends with your membership. DogsQld, always the first - first with BSL. first with docking, first to ban first degree matings, first to have an ABS. And they were all systems go with mandatory desexing, it wasn't until their members told them they were about to be desexed out of existence - and the DPI told them they had thousands of written objections from their members, but none from them that they saw the light on that one. And no one with any nous wants to be in anything "special" with breeders who are the subject of approbation Australia wide, who are known to breeders as "dodgy". Some of the people in the ABS have done appalling things - and public things - which are totally against the COE, yet they are able to be Accredited Breeders. What a joke. One would hope that they would be expelled. You'd only join if you needed to look good. Some of us don't need to look good, because we bloody ARE good. God help young breeders. No one else will. Yes, MM, it's a shame about all the good breeders, happy to share their time and knowledge, who don't come here any more, but things change, and not always for the better.

Richard Eaton-Wells

Once he is clipped, he will need to be regularly groomed, or clipped every 4 -6 weeks. Did the breeder explain to you how to groom, and are you using the correct tools? May I ask why you bought a Tibbie if you didn't want to groom?

These days, even regular vets wont be out of pocket, because too many people wont pay. Emergency vets - last weekend. Couple brought in a pup, very very sick, vets thought there was not much hope. Couple went out to the car to bring in their credit card, and have not been seen since. Woman brought in cat hit by a car. Wanted it x-rayed and treated. Vet sedated and gave pain killers, put the cat in a cage, next am, x-rayed, broken leg, broken pelvis possibly damage to bladder, outlook seemed grim, owner was advised to euth. Then went ballistic about paying for a/h treatment and xray. When some people have nothing to see for it, they have no motivation to pay, and vets wont take the chance. Pet owners should have a small savings account that they put a little into, and not touch, credit card, or pet insurance, to cover all contingencies. As a breeder, i always put some of the puppy income into an account - whether it is a loss or a profit situation - and use that for vet accounts etc.

what's not permitted? I know several people who are a registered business for tax purposes. Absolutely. You don't have to be making a profit to declare your business for tax purposes. In theory, but in practice,contact the ATO and ask about business status. Unless you have A LOT of bitches, and you are either profitable or have the potential to become profitable, they will laugh their heads off. They are not in the business of giving taxpayers write offs for goods unless they are a business. Most of us dont qualify

I have seen Clumbers at breeders - and they are mostly as the ones in the photo - perhaps the show boys carry more condition? I believe that any dog with the correct genes and correct training will do what he was bred for.

It's sad when they go, and you miss them so much, but be pleased for him Ceilidh - over the rainbow bridge, playing with TBCSITW (except Hooley), but he sees you and knows. Life's different without your main man.

Congratulations to the Sussex, Ch Sunfire Swamp Monster & Pauline. Best in show, what a great win for a rare breed, and he showed his little socks off. Go Boof!! Just so nice to see a rare breed get up (specially a spaniel)

It's a hobby. To have a business, you must satisfy the requirements of the ATO which requires activities of a business, and an annual profit. And I do answer every single email. I think replying to enquiries is a breeder's responsibility - for the good of the fancy

Good luck with her, when they are fighters, it's difficult to abandon them. The vet checked her for hydroencephallitis, didn't he?

Maltese don't shed, so no doubt your dog has inherited coat type from the Maltese. I can guarantee that there are never any decent Maltese in pounds, the dogs there are usually crossbreds, which the op does not want, and a lot of them are there because they have health problems due to careless backyarders, and/or they have temperament or behavioural problems, some due to bad breeding, some due to poor owners. Friends yappy maltese are poorly trained. I have seem some horrible yappy Papillons too, but that is not necessarily a breed characteristic. Shih Tzus are also guard dogs, with very different temperaments from Maltese. I have no idea why everyone so dislikes maltese - there are some great ones out there, but they are not as large as a Shih Tzu and very different. OP I do hope some of the enthusiastic maltese owners see this thread and give advice.

I can well imagine it would be a huge task. Who would be able to start it? You? Would you begin the ball rolling Stonebridge? After a lot of work by CCCQ members, there was a plebisite a few years ago, where members could vote for or against a new system of appointing councillors - ie, councillors would not be appointed by the RNA, they would be elected by the members. only 30% approximately of the members voted, and the vote was for continuing with the current system. So people are happy to talk about changing the system, and some are happy to do the huge amount of work involved - but when it comes to it, the members aren't interested.

Yes I'll be there singing showdog, but only if I win of course, if I lose I'll storm out of the ring, rubbish the winning dogs, accuse the winning handler of sleeping with the judge and then slink off home to wash the dye out of my dogs It must be ages since you lost --- after you call the judge a fornicating loser, (probably with the exhibitor of the winning dog,whether same sex or not), you then are supposed to chuck your dog into the trolley,bang the lid down as hard as possible, and swear at him too. Then pack your car, and roar off, spraying the other competitors with grass and dirt. Don't wash the dye off, leave it till next weekend. Hope you understand better now?? Anything I want to say, I say directly to someone, not behind their backs -- and mostly I don't want to bother, it's none of my business. And who am I to criticise their dogs, or their handling, or their dye job? No one. If they are nasty to me, I smile a lot and say "gee, thanks for that" (and go home and stick the pins in the dolly) - but it's not important, it's not as if this person is my friend .... it is nothing. I DO have some friends "in" dogs, but they would never be rude to me. And I haven't been winning a lot lately, so most people are nice And my usual friends are always nice and genuinely pleased if I do well, as I am for them. Newbies should go along to the show to have fun with their dog - some food, some drinks, a nice day out, and a chance to meet new people. Some they will like, some they wont - as in all things. But in the beginning, they can assess the people that they like, or don't like, so they can make friends, and they will. I haven't been showing at all this year, but I go with friends to shows - I hold dogs, groom dogs ---- I can't run --- but I help, and I have a great day out, as if I was showing. If I had a dog, someone would show it for me. If the dog wins, that's a bonus ... if you go along to have a good day out, you do have a good day - and if a win is a bonus, not something you expect, you will have a better time. Go to enjoy your dog, and the company. Those fringies are the icing on the cake!! I always have a great time, win, lose, draw, or fall over. And if you think dogs are bad, ponder that no one has yet attacked a dog which may win as they have with horses.

Go for the Maltese. Originally bred in Malta to be a companion and sleeve dog, the correct ones from registered breeders are absolutely delightful. They do need to be clipped every 6 - 8 weeks or they will have floor sweeping hair. They also need grooming (at home), and do not shed. A dog from the proper bloodlines, correctly raised and trained - as all dogs should be raised and trained - is the most wonderful little dog. Devoted to his family, gentle, kind, playful. He does need early training to prevent excessive barking. Not all bark, I know one who rarely says anything. Speak to the breeders in your state, if they can't help, go further afield. If you go to the ANKC website (www. ANKC.com.au will get it up) you will find breeders advertise by state on that site .... simply click on the state you want. Badly bred and xbreds can and do have temperament problems, and I very much suspect those are the ones the RSPCA used in their survey. Anything the correct size was lumped in as "Maltese" when the only real maltese has registratiion papers from the ANKC. Don't need lots of exercise, people time will do nicely, but a walk is appreciated, as is a car ride. Here is the breed standard, which gives the correct temperament and conformation. Lhasas are quite a bit bigger and heavier and they are a guard dog with a different tempeament to the Maltese. Bichons are good too, different coat, but good nature, and nice personallity. Maltese would be my pick, and they are easier to get than a Bichon. And I think that they are not suitable for families with children under about 7 - they are small pups, and easily hurt, so better away from small hands