Jed

I don't know what is going on either, but I think it is vitally important that every member votes. It doesn't look good from where I am, and we do need a split from the RNA, and a split from the RNA councillors. The RNA has obviously forced the split, as the CCCQ had to find new offices. The Douglas Wadley pavilion (which the CCCQ paid for) at the show grounds is being demolished after 2011. I see nowhere that the CCCQ is getting any recompense. RNA councillors are trustees for Durack. If the CCCQ is physically away from the RNA, I don't think the RNA councillors should continue to be trustees for Durack, for a whole lot of reasons. In a rapidly changing scenario, with the government apparently involved, unless we (members) vote, we could have anyone as trustees for Durack, including those who have no interest in dogs at all, and no interest in keeping a designated area for dog shows. Robb Jeffs warned us all about this very scenario. Please, do vote. Needs to be in the office by Monday.

Too harsh for dogs, wrong ph, too much detergent. A recipe for skin problems. Trouble is, the problems don't begin next week, but 3 years down the track when the skin is so deranged it simply breaks down, and everyone has forgotten the wool wash. Save it for your clothes and buy dog shampoo. There are heaps and heaps of good, inexpensive dog shampoos. It may seem more expensive that human shampoo, but it goes further. Aristopet make nice ones, well priced, Aloveen, Fidos ...... I could go on and on.

Too harsh for dogs, wrong ph, too much detergent. A recipe for skin problems. Trouble is, the problems don't begin next week, but 3 years down the track when the skin is so deranged it simply breaks down, and everyone has forgotten the wool wash. Save it for your clothes and buy dog shampoo. There are heaps and heaps of good, inexpensive dog shampoos. It may seem more expensive that human shampoo, but it goes further. Aristopet make nice ones, well priced, Aloveen, Fidos ...... I could go on and on.

Too harsh for dogs, wrong ph, too much detergent. A recipe for skin problems. Trouble is, the problems don't begin next week, but 3 years down the track when the skin is so deranged it simply breaks down, and everyone has forgotten the wool wash. Save it for your clothes and buy dog shampoo. There are heaps and heaps of good, inexpensive dog shampoos. It may seem more expensive that human shampoo, but it goes further. Aristopet make nice ones, well priced, Aloveen, ...... I could go on and on.

It's a problem for me when the dog displays unwanted, annoying and continuous behaviour, no matter what that is. For a dog to be used for breeding, I would expect him to notice/not notice the storm, thunder, lighting, and ignore it. A young dog barking at lightning or thunder at first (maybe for 2 storms) would be ok. Any other displays whilst storms are on, the dog is not bred with. I consider this a fairly serious fault. However, living with nervous dogs or nervous owners can bring this on. So the puppy may be storm proof but made otherwise by companions or owner.

Yep, will be a normal season, normal ovulation blah blah. However, if girls are wanted, down on the knees, eyes on the universe, you know what happens then But the good news is, my private research shows (over more years than I will admit) that young bitches generally tend to have girls, older bitches tend to have boys/ True story, if you want a bitch pup, think about keeping one from an early litter. Same thing is scientifically proven with kangaroos. Not with dogs, you have to trust me (but your cheque's in the mail!!)

Jemima was quick to criticize those dishonest breeders busily breeding unhealthy dogs. I notice the cocker breeders worldwide who undertook a variety of fund raising efforts for years to provide funds for researchers to discover the gene, and subsequently, a test for FN in cocker spaniels didn't even rate a mention. I notice Jemima wasn't mentioning the hundreds of thousands of pounds raised by cavalier breeders and clubs world wide to try to discover a test for heart murmurs. I notice that when she slates the Australian CKCS with SM, she uses out of date figures, and forgets to say that because of the cost and difficulty of having tests done 10 years ago, it was only the dogs suspected of having SM which were scanned, so the results could go into the studies, in the hope of finding the cause. And she has been proved a liar. Shame people still believe her aussielover The service organisations, or the government, will need to breed them. Or they will need to come from puppy farms. Aussielover I wouldn't write it, or have been writing it for at least 6 years if I didn't believe it. Now we are in a situation where it is all beginning to happen, and more breeders are walking away. You don't need me to tell you, simply look at the numbers of puppies bred. They do shape up with other years, but as the population increases the pup numbers should increase too. Some people who would like a purebred dog simply cannot have one, and with new regulations in the pipeline, more breeders will leave. Initially, they will be replaced by young inexperienced breeders. They will not have the mentoring or advice of previous generations, and will probably leave fairly quickly. And more regulations will bite harder

I can't understand why people would pass on a purebred for a crossbred. Purebreds, you know what you are getting - size, shape, temp etc, and if you are careful, they are from lines of beautiful dogs, so yours will be beautiful too. Crossbreds are usually bred from the dregs - no registered breeder will sell to an x bred breeder, so they pick up dogs where they can - pet shops, byb, puppy farms. I'd prefer my dog no matter what it was, from quality parents not fourth rate ones.

I suggest if you intend feeding raw, you purchase Ian Billinghurst's Give A Dog A Bone, and Tom Londsale's book on prey model feeding. I don't think anyone on a forum has time to give you full and relevant information, no matter how much they want to. The books are not expensive and well worth buying. If you feed fruit and vegetables, they must be broken down via a juicer or food processor, as dogs cannot digest cellulose, which is a problem unless the food is chopped/broken down. And you will achieve balance by feeding a large variety of fruit/veges/ Some contain various enzymes, some various vitamins, if you feel a variety,over time, the chances of the dog being fed a balanced diet increases. Buy the books ;)

I think the op was looking for a forum thread on Maltese - either a breed forum, or breed 101, I thought

I don't believe there is one. You can start one. ;)

Couldn't get the second website. Cocker breeders organised and financially supported research into the causes of Familial Neuropathy, which was fatal, pups rarely lived past 5 months. Now all breeding cockers can be tested and the genes identified, which means that no more affected dogs should be bred. dogs may be clear by parentage. No doubt now there is a gene identified in cockers, finding it in other breeds should require less research Juvenal Renal Disease is another - and I have no doubt that ongoing research will discover the genes responsible. Cockers may be afflicted by this as well, and the situation is difficult now, there is no way of knowing whethr the pups will be affected or not until the mating is done and the pups are a few months old there was a lot of discussion on FN in cockers on this forum a few years ago.

The practice you mention gtjell, is a large one, with a lot of new grads. Unfortunately, a lot of them are imbued with the animal rights propaganda, and maybe not the right mix for a future breeder. Bob's a great vet, particularly with birds and natives

A very happy birthday, Charlie, and may there be many many happy returns. It took a small person like you to show us all that the will to succeed, the heart of a lion, and belief in yourself could overcome negative medical prognoses. May you continue to be an excellent example for us all. Well done to your slaves too, they have done well.

It is a behavioural issue as much as a sex issue. Agree with Nek about calming paste. Need to talk to their vet about this. I agree also about keeping him under control and calm in a situation with other dogs. If he has his penis out of the sheath - take him away, and keep him away until he is better behaved. Then try again. It would work better if they controlled him before the offending member protruded. And KY Jelly with cold water will help with the re-insertion into the sheath. Usually the combination of the 2 will result, in a few minutes, in sufficient reduction for the dog to effect re-insertion himself. However, if this was my dog and he did this he would get no help at all. His punishment would be to deal with it himself. He is not going to get "drop off" or anything. Main thing is to stop him running through the dirt and prickles with unsheated equipment.

Hi Pillow, and welcome to the forum. I see your point of view. I do have a couple of queries, if you wouldn't mind taking time to answer. Why do you think registered breeders will carry some real weight now, when they have never carried any before? What is there to make the CCCQ suddenly amenable to members suggestions? Do you know what their agenda is? Do you think AB would lobby as a group? Is there any reason why you think DQ would be more inclined to listen than they have been in the past? Is there anything that you would like the lobby group would ask DQ for? I hope you are right. Mark Sheppard seems to be able to talk to government/councils, so who knows where it all may lead? It seems rather a shame that DQ has not been open with their agenda, which rather causes one to wonder if there is one. I personally feel DQ has done this to appease AR in the wake of the Bateson report. Before AR comes knocking on the door. However, I think the ANKC as a whole should be saying to AR "we do it right, every time. Here is our coe, and if you don't like it, jam it" - and they should then go to the media and complain. In fact, they should have been talking to the media since PDE There is very little in the ABS which is not in the coe anyhow, and ethical breeders are exceeding the coe anyhow. It takes my annual fees to over $100, and expects me to advertise with the CCCQ. I don't advertise, I have no need, so I would be paying another $100 for a service I don't need But if they wanted an ABS, they were between a rock and a hard place regarding framing it. Personally, I think breeding purebred dogs is going to become impossible, and I see only draconian results from the ABS. But I am open to education, ;) But I take on board what you said about taking all members on board and hoping for improvement from some.

Steve And that happened about 10 - 15 years ago. And the divide will continue to widen. Steve the consequences will be the end of purebred dogs, because "everyone" who shouts loudest believes this. As the people here believed what came out of PDE, no matter what those "at the coal face" said. No one will sue because there will never be a cohesive whole There is no hope. Newer breeders will struggle on, not knowing any better.

Jed Why? Who, how and when will they be taken away? I think you are underestimating the Environmental Imperative that is now facing us. All animals, great and small, must become sacrosanct. P. Animal rights have been working for 20 years to have dogs wiped out. It took a while, but it is working now. With many other dog breeders, I believe that people like Ms Harrison will have legislation and rules enacted which make it too difficult and too restrictive to breed dogs, so breeders will walk away. It has happened already, over a period of years - I think about 60,000 something registered purebred dogs were bred in Aus last year, a number which is lower than previous years. Docking legislation saw some walk. First degree matings are now banned, soon second degree matings will be banned also, the people who approve of those things leave the hobby. It is a hobby - the hobby breeders will go -too hard, too expensive - and the puppy farms will flourish ... they can afford it, and when you are making a profit, you want to see that continue, so you will do more than someone with a hobby Most breeders over 50 agree with that.

To me, it is a holistic statement - and a way of doing every thing. It is not simply breeding dogs which will win in the ring. It is about studying and researching the breed, and the standard, so the breed and the standard are fully umderstood so it is possible to breed to the standard. To ensure your interpretation of the standard is not off the planet - breeders who do not understand the standard, or have a weird interpretation often produce generations of lousy dogs. And to continue to learn and apply that learning. It's about breeding dogs as close to the standard as possible, about breeding health and temperament which will breed on to future generations. About being mindful of every thing in the standard. To keeping the dogs in a manner which enthuses others who see them, to taking them out and about so they are a credit to the breed. To dealing with enquiries and puppy buyers for the betterment of the breed. This means replying to every single enquiry in a timely way, to supplying information if requested, and to encourage buyers to care for their dogs in the correct way. It means never selling a dog which is unsuitable for the home, guaranteeing the health of the dog, helping with any problems, and being there for the buyer. The whole breeding/showing/selling deal should all be for the betterment of the breed. That was the culture I "grew up in" as a breeder. That's not how it is seen these days - it is about winning in the ring. I am a dinosaur, as are my friends, the new wave don't see it like that at all.

I am sorry I can't give you references for this, but pups need different sights, sounds, experiences, places, and things to do (ie, toys) to develop their brains. Toys should include smooth ones, ropes, soft toys, squeaky blah blah ... the more the better. All dogs benefit, not just "pet" dogs. A friend of mine has been breeding very good working collies (with a dash of whatever) for about 60 years. The pups run extensively, and have all sorts of things to investigate - including balls, ropes and kids toys. 99.9% will be working dogs, they are too busy for life in the 'burbs. Never seems to hurt them.

Bilbo Baggins Some people are very results driven, and focused at shows. I have dealt with a couple of breeders who were delightful, helpful over and above what could be expected, loved to educate --- but not the most helpful people at shows. I went to shows with one of them, and quickly learned to keep my mouth shut. Before the class, the mind was on preparing the dogs, afterwards - particularly if the results were not as good as expected - the mind was not going to be on anyone enquiring. They believed shows were for showing dogs. Enquiries would be dealt with perfunctorarily - and sometimes by me!! I think people thought I was the kennel hand. As a result I am always happy to talk to people at shows. But not everyone is

Alan and Paul! Stonebridge, I haven't seen or heard of Jane for a few years. She bought the practice from (forgotten his name), and may have sold it to someone else since I knew her. I am surprised she did sell it.

Ms Harrison's usual modus operandi. Shame the public believes her. A pointer to her agenda Ms Harrison Anyone who believes purebred dogs will exist in 25 years is naive.

Forgot - but not quite Toowoomba. Jane at Allora is a very good vet. Sorry, can 't remember her last name or the name of the practice, but it is the one on the hill on the lhs of the highway just before the Allora turnoff on the highway on the way to Warwick. If she still owns it. Very knowledgable.

Paul and Alan. Great vets. Toowoomba Veterinary Hospital 191 Hume Street Toowoomba. Behind the Hooper Centre Very knowledgable, not too expensive. Used to go to the surgery in the middle of the night for me .... and neither made me feel bad nor charged exorbitantly. Lots of experience And trust me, I am picky about my vets. :D PS - Hope this isnt the surgery you are running away from!! Oops Stonebridge, why not post it on the forum, so others can make use of the information?