Jed

It does prove my point. If you can't understand that, don't bother. It isn't worth my trouble. Just keep getting pups and taking them home, and have them "play up", not know what to do, so send them back. None of you will ever need any assistance,because you are all such experts who never have any problems at all with your dogs. Well done. I am sure you will be able to assist this poster with her problems in a flash. Tomorrow, the dog will be perfect. Well done Incidentally, Wreckitwhipppit NO ONE, except you, suggested any dog needed companionship 24/7 all their lives. You are obviously making it up as you go along. New pups need owners to give some consideration to their circumstances otherwise the situation discussed here, or something similar arises.

http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/254680-the-right-thing-when-it-might-be-the-wrong-dog/

Or no one submitted it for inclusion. It doesn't mean someone isn't registered if they aren't on there. It's run by Sway, it's not an official ANKC list. Go and read the my first post..... I said appears to be.......and yes I know who set it up and I use it all the time to check out a lot of people. Invaluable site Sway. I did read your first post and it appeared to be completely pointless. Interesting to contemplate the type of person who would pointlessly be unkind and unpleasant to anonymous others for no discernible reason on a public forum.

There are some people near Hodgson Vale with stud cattle who had maremmas, and found them effective. There are also people I know near Taroom who have maremmas. They cited an incident where the dingoes were about, and a pair rushed the cattle, seeking calves, or weak heifers. The bitch maremma stayed with the herd, the dog went after the dingoes. There was a terrible fight. The maremma returned some time later, covered in blood. He had a few bites on his ear leathers, but the rest of the blood on him was not his. The male dingo was found some way off, dead, and the other never seen again...as far as they know. These people happened to witness this, but are aware that there were no doubt lots of incidents they were not aware of. Stock losses reduced a great deal after the maremmas were introduced. They have a lot of cattle, so have more than a few maremmas but use them mostly with the cows and calves. We had a large dingo/wild dog pack in the ridges above our property. The maremma/pyrenean was constantly on the prowl, and up on our closest point to the ridges, barking, barking. The pack got quite a few dairy calves from the nearby dairy, but we didn't have any problems. Baits were laid and the pack disappeared.

This myth is not supported by facts. The RSPCA and university stats state otherwise. The minority of dogs in shelters/pounds are purebreds, and they are homed first. This bit of nonsense was first put about by animal rights in US, and like everything animal rights, was exported to Aust. What is is all about is NOT saving dogs in shelters, it is about stopping people breeding dogs. PETA gets millions every year in donations, and does not run ONE shelter. A major con job. Maybe people who buy a purebred will not buy a shelter dog instead, but fact is, they buy a puppy. Puppies in shelters go like hot cakes. Dogs in shelters are usually dumped as teenagers, reasons given in surveys were mainly "did not meet expectations". Those people do not get an older shelter dog, they get a puppy as a replacement.

I don't know much about it, or her, but what I wonder is does she know anything about horses? Or is she just gathering and keeping them?

I am by no means the fox guru, but a single wound seems more like a fox. Also foxes seem to attack when the opportunity arises - they would go for our ducks/chooks after it had rained and the doggy scent was gone - AND - if the dogs weren't home. Dogs IMHO, tend to do the maul, or chase and bite stock or fowl more. Think the fox might have gone for the chickies too,but may have got the goat and been scared off. So sorry about the goat. Nasty thing to happen.

Christina have to agree 100%. That's why there are hardly any breeders on this site any more. Haredown Whippets, if you are referring to my posts can you show me please, where I made any reference to socio economic circumstances? Thanks

SAS, do you think that GM is a problem with grains? Must admit, have never considered it. Perhaps I should!! We too, are eating GM grain.

You are correct, we were given one side of the story, and commented on that. Until we receive another side of the story, I shall let my original comments stand. You haven't told us much, so there is nothing more for any of us to say. This is an open forum, the breeder is welcome to come and have a say.

Happy birthday, special boxer person. Hope you get lots of good things for your birthday, and this lot here (not sweet at all) say "Happy Furday". May you live for many more years, giving fun and pleasure. Good dog Bruno

Poor little tacker. Sending healing vibes. Hope she is ok. there are just so many poisonous things out there, and so many allergens.

First 3 sentences of original post HW, if people want to patronise pet shops, byb and puppy farms, that is their business. If they want to patronise those places because I wont sell them a pup, that is their choice. None of my business, I am not the puppy police. If those places want to sell to them, that is their business. My job is to find the very best homes I can for my pups. If you chose to see my post as personal, please feel free. By the time I put sufficient riders and disclaimers on my posts to keep everyone on this forum happy, they would go on for pages. This post was not for you, it was for anyone contemplating buying a puppy - without giving thought to what arrangements they would make to avoid it being home alone for 12 hours per day. Edited to say - from where I am - at the pointy end, there are a lot of people who decide they want a pup without giving much thought to the nuts and bolts of puppy ownership. Maybe after this fight and nasty fest, they may give more thought to their ownership of a puppy.

Neither would I. And yet, I've managed to raise 5 pups working full time whilst NEVER leaving a pup alone for so long. Its about the level of commitment you're prepared to make to a pup, not whether or not you work. God knows what some breeders think of those who raise litters while having full time jobs. That would classify as "special assistance", would it not? Hmm? Not to me. Nothing "special" about it. You do what is best for the pup and give it what it needs. That's what responsible, committed dog owners do whether they work or not. But from the sounds of things you'd have not even given my home a second thought Jed. This is a quote from your original post. I'd like to think that quite a few full time workers including me have proven that statement wrong. It works if you're prepared to put the effort into making it work. If you had read it in the context of the entire post, you would not be writing this - although perhaps you would. I would like to point out that quite a few full time workers - excluding you - have proven to me that statement correct, over quite a lot of years, so now people who work full time need to demonstrate to me that they have "special arrangements " (or whatever you want to call it) in place, prior to purchasing the pup, so that I know I will not be receiving a poorly socialised, poorly trained, unhappy and desolate dog back to re-educate and rehome. I would prefer not to go down that track at all than to have the product of poor ownership skills return to my doorstep. I have other criteria obviously, but this post was not about that. You will find that approximately 80% of responsible ethical dog breeders will agree 100% with this point of view. I don't post very often,but if you (collective) couldn't be bothered comprehending my posts, why not ignore them?

Neither would I. And yet, I've managed to raise 5 pups working full time whilst NEVER leaving a pup alone for so long. Its about the level of commitment you're prepared to make to a pup, not whether or not you work. God knows what some breeders think of those who raise litters while having full time jobs. That would classify as "special assistance", would it not? Hmm?

are you saying you can take your pup to work with you? If so, how does that tie in with the original topic about baby pups being left home alone all day The sweeping generalization that those who work leave their puppies home alone to rot and then dump them is how. That is NOT what I said. Please re-read my original post. Yes, I would like you to point out where this was said please? It was never said, nor was that intended. So, you point it out, please.

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Sorry, didn't realise it had been posted before. Had no title, nor anything in the post except a link.

I just heard 4 other dogs became involved. No idea what breed, sounds as if the fight just escalated.

It's your fault your Pug is nuts , you weren't home enough to mummy it :laugh: I think you are both to blame. and I think you both know why!! :laugh: :laugh:

Amazing how many people on a dog forum think it is ok to leave a baby puppy alone all day by itself. How caring. Says some special things about a lot of you, doesn 't it? Some very special things!!

Thanks, such a charming response. Can't you read either? Bye bye

No, I apply the same criteria to all enquiries. That is whether they can give the dog a suitable home or not. As you can see from the previous post, "a suitable home" can be different in each situation. What is important is company, socialisation, training, affection, care. I am over this thread now. Some of you can't read, or wanted to have a go, or are offended. karly 101 didn't need to be offended, my post didn't refer to her. I have to wonder why people who fall very far outside the category are offended.

Someone asked ....... "recent" homes mid-50s professional, wife at home, 3rd dog of the breed they have owned gay couple with 2 dogs who take dogs to work 2 - 4 days/week couple with own business, wife works from home office young couple who live in a granny flat, both work, dog has access to parents Young couple, 2 children, shift workers - mostly different shifts full time worker, takes pup to parents every day Married couple with children, both work, have older dog of the breed. The pup was a replacement for very old dog which died. couple, no children, man is a plumber, dog goes out on the job with him All different, all reasonable homes. There are dozens of suitable and different situations. I know that people need to work, and I know that people who stay at home need to go out, and the pup/dog will be alone for some of the time. That's fine, what is not fine is alone all day, every day. And if you think that is ok, you are kiddin yourself!!

How many dogs have you had in your lifetime YvonneM? How many have you raised to adulthood? How many have you raised to adulthood since you worked full time? How much time to you spend on walks with your dog? Why did you think you would make a good dog owner?