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He has segments on the radio about pet behaviour. I think it would be worth $10 to go and have a look. I see it is sponsored by the pet breeders society.

Sorry for you and the little dog, that you are having this problem. Also consider that if you got him "recently" he hasn't had time to settle and some of his problems may be due to issues with settling in, and will settle in a couple of months. It is very difficult to assess them when they have only been with you for weeks. I used to do a lot of rescue and the difference when the dogs settled was amazing. Even a beautifully behaved dog often develops or displays some problems when he moves homes. It is very traumatic for a dog. Hope the behaviourist can help. If you decide to keep him, phone Val Bonney (The Gap, I think) - she is a great trainer and will be able to help you, or get one of her trainers to help you. Good luck :)

fbaudry, have you ever tried a Cider Vinegar rinse after a bath? Sounds a bit like yeast to me. The other thing I would consider is putting her onto the Transfer Factor which is actually bovine colostrum, which is said to boost the immune system. Google it for supplier and price, if you are interested

Badly behaved dogs. Goat owner appears to be a complete numpty. Goat was very stressed, and why the hell would you take a goat to a dog park?

Mystiquview - it is very difficult to tell. I once stomped up to the house, found the dog chained up (with 40 others) told her that wasn't what we agreed at time of sale, and she had a choice, I would give her $100 and take the dog, and his signed papers away with me, or the RSPCA would be calling on her. Another I got back on loan and desexed, because she was breeding Cavoodles. I think the CCCQ fell about laughing when the owner complained to them about it. Still - I have had two I am sad about and could never redress, despite trying to. I usually go to visit them at about 12 months .... and I tell the buyers I will. But being on LR would not have stopped any of that. One which fell on hard times was resold by the first owner to a lovely lady with a little boy who was a puppy farmer. So now I ask them to sign a letter saying they will bring the dog back to me. I have been breeding for a a very long time, and I haven't had too many go astray, so it could be worse, but I do grieve for each little life which isn't lived as it should be. Removing the LR wont make people who don't stand their dogs at stud change their minds. It will make them more likely not to stand them. People who have spent $10,000+ importing dogs which go Gr Ch and do a lot for the breed, have, in my opinion, the right to say where and to whom the pups may go. If that if the price I pay to use a dog which improves my lines so be it. If there is no LR, the owners probably will not stand them any more. Agree with you JessicaM. Every week, it seems, there are more and more registered breeders advertising on DOL, yet no one in the breed knows them. I don't think this move will increase show/breeding numbers. CCCQ needs to think laterally and make it interesting and exciting for new owners. I am attending the meeting re this - I only go to a meeting once every 40 years, but I have a lot to say when I get there !!! Angeluca - years ago, someone who didn't know me, and had never been to my property once told a breeder in another state that I was a puppy farmer, so I got the cold shoulder. Very difficult to be a puppy farmer with only 4 dogs. So the lovely bitch of good lines never arrived. Nothing ever changes. There are great people out there, and real grubs

Does it mention anywhere in any of the articles how long they had owned the dog for?

Steve said The breeder can register into the new owners name : but main register and limisted register cost the same. In Q it has always (including pre- LR) been a requirement that ALL pups from every litter be registered with DQ. No, because ALL pups were registered, DQ always knew what dogs were used and how often they were mated. There were no regulations (as it should be) about first generation matings, or time between matings. So these changes are not being considered The general public could always see that in Qld. Yeah, sure, you could sell pups without papers, but you were then in breach of the COE. There is some other reason for this mooted change.

I think DQ had also forgotten some of the restrictions stud dog owners put on litters. Often, if you use a nice imported dog, his owner does not want his lines to go to someone who will mismanage them, or not health test or whatever. As a small time breeder, I am, and have always been most grateful to these owners for allowing me the use of their top stud dog. When I sell the resultant pups, I keep one for myself, and I put all the remainder on limited register, and ensure they go to pet homes. So, what happens if there is no limited register? What happens is that the dog owners restrict the use of the dogs to themselves only, and quality and diversity goes down the gurgler. My vet certainly wont lie, nor would I expect him too. Bad hq angulation may stop the dog being a decent show dog, but it wont stop it being a decent pet, so no vet will certify that. Even if they know. Half the vets don't even know that boxers are undershot!! Vets aren't about conformation, they are about health. And then we arrive at a situation where, if the dog is on MR, and there is no vet cert saying it is not up to par, perhaps the purchaser expect to show it? If it doesn't win, will the breeder, or DQ be sued? I am vehemently opposed to neo nate desexing - always assuming I could find a vet to do it!! I hope we have elected a committee who will consider ALL the implications of this move, and indeed, will consider the long term implications as well.

HOW MUCH? (faints) IMHO, having bred prior to the LR, it doesn't matter which register you put the pup on, dodgy people will still breed with it. I put a whole litter last year on MR because I couldn't be bothered explaining to people who had demonstrated to me that they wanted pets, why their pup was on limited register. All are now desexed, and pets. I think DQ is hoping that by removing, LR, more dogs will be sold for breeding, numbers will increase, and the dog world will improve. I don't think that will happen. I think we should have MR with the option of "not for export" There are also much worse things than breeding which can happen to a dog - being used as a football at 10 weeks by 2 teenage boys, or being kicked down 20 steps each morning spring to mind. Yes, both these things happened. Really, it is the investigations you (the breeder)do and the amount of time you spend with the buyer which will tell you what their intentions are --- and if they are the puppy farmers from hell, they will convince you they are lovely. I find that Google, and Nearmap (before they began charging for it) are good tools to see where the dogs will be kept. That doesn't stop them putting them in the garage in crates, but I have a contract about that, and I have taken a couple of dogs (males) back under that contract. Once we didn't need LR, but those days are over. Once buyers were honest. Now, some other breeder has groomed them so they know what to say. My system has failed me once or twice, but not enough to neuter all dogs before they leave home. I have a few strategies which help me, but I am not listing them on a public forum. And - to ensure we have a hobby in the future, we need to encourage new exhibitors and breeders. I wish people would tell me if they want to breed - I would sell them the best one and encourage them, but they wont; they lie, and then I hear they have a litter and have to phone them and ask why they didn't tell me, so they could have a good one. When I was a young person, if you bought a bitch, the breeder would encourage you to come back and breed a litter - select the stud for you- suggest some reading, give you some help, and probably sell the pups as well -- and help you get into the ring. Don't think there is as much of that about now, which is really sad. I don't know what the answer is, any more

Whatever else it is, breeding is never dull. Maybe that pup came in extra wrappings because he was special? Try the girl with liquid calcium, if you have any - and perhaps that and the milk coming down and releasing oxytocin will expel the placentas. Good luck with them. Hope they all thrive and prosper.

Erny, have you tried you dog on things such as the transfer factor and Vit C, both of which are supposed to boost the immune system? Particularly the Transfer Factor, which I understand is basically bovine colostrum.

Thanks, Donatella, that clarifies it a bit. I hope the police/vet will ascertain whether the puncture wounds were dog bites, or the result of stabbing. Makes a big difference. If she was not there, someone could have taken the dogs and returned the deceased one. Frightful

Thanks so much for posting that. I do hope someone posts that article to Don Burke, and Dr. Paul McGreevy of Sydney Uni, who need to know that.

How frightful. I do so feel for her. There are some terrible people living in that area, and it seems that pets are not safe, with school alpacas bashed, kittens kicked to death, and now this. Was your friend home when this happened? It is hard to believe this happened without much noise. There are supposed to be a couple of fighting rings, and judging by the "lost or stolen" notices on boards it does seem very likely. So sad. Poor doggies, poor poor owner.

I am sure the problem is that the original pup is $900 - a registered one is about $1400. A lot of $$ for people with a young family. Another $500 seems a lot - and it is - until something goes wrong with the purchase. I often see the dramas people have had with byb or pet shop pups bred by people who probably did care, but didn't know much - and the thousands they shelled out to try to fix the problem. Although it is hard to fix a pup who simply drops dead on day 2 of your ownership. Not trying to frighten you --- I do understand the problem. It's a toughie. $500 is a lot of bucks. Hope whatever you do works out for you!!

All soo cute. But - what loonies!! Ha, great little dogs

Please Cheys, run from this "breeder". As a registered breeder of many years, I can never understand why people are breeding dogs without papers. The only reasons which occur to me are greed or lack of will to do the right thing. There may be other reasons. They may not really understand that their work of 4 months is going to be your pet for 10+ years. Labs and goldens are very different. I personally prefer goldens. I have breeder friends, and all their puppy sales are successful, the dogs fitting seamlessly into the family. Labs are great too but they are not interchangeable with goldens. What makes a good dog is firstly, hereditary factors ... parents and grand-parents and so on with great health, marvellous temperaments and good looks. Then there is the testing of the parents - whatever tests are appropriate for the breed - I think with goldens it is hips, elbows, and eyes and hearts. Next, there is the mother ... a nice mellow girl with good habits, a love of people and the will to please, as well as a calm and friendly nature - AND, most importantly - good nerve. The stud dog should be as good as possible, and the breeder should know him, and a few of his ancestors. And both parents should have the temperament described in the breed standard of excellence for that breed. Or close to it. Then the raising of the pups - they should be left with mother to get on with it, with weaning beginning at 3 - 4 weeks, depending on the maturity of the litter. Weaning may take a little time, with mum stepping in to provide a little supplementary feeding, and some adult company. When the pups are fully weaned, at around 6 weeks they will have been introduced to various different things, handled all over (and some breeders may have done specific handling which is said to increase the learning ability of the pups). As they grow, their horizons should widen too - just in the home and garden. Other dogs who are good with pups should play with them, if possible, but never frighten or threaten. At 6 - 8 weeks, depending on a whole heap of things, the pups should be vac and vet checked, and left to play together, and with other mature friends until sale time, which at my house - could be anywhere from 8 -12 weeks; again, depending on maturity and when I think they are ready to leave home. When they are sold, they are bright, friendly, happy, inquisitive little souls. They have experienced housework, gardening, car rides, and have the idea about the grass being the puppy toilet. They greet all new experiences with joy and delight. They are not easily frightened - but they have the sense to run from dangerous objects - thus the laundry trolley is nothing, but the ride on is a big scary dragon, and little pups leave quickly before they are gobbled up. Pups have learned bite inhibition, through socialisation with their siblings, and perhaps some bigger dogs, they will also have learned how to behave from their mother. And she will have passed on her calm sensible temperament. None of this can be done in 4 weeks. What you should be paying a little more for is the better breeding, looks and temperament of the parents -- which is so important - the health checks on the parents, and the expertise of the breeder. There is a huge difference, in my experience, in expertise between a breeder of 12 months and 12 years!! Usually!! And then, when you take your healthy, happy, child friendly, outgoing puppy home, it is up to you to bring out the best in it by consistent and careful handling, and consistent training. That's how you get a good dog!! Good luck, please do go to someone who is registered. Ask them how long they have been breeding, whether they are registered breeders, how long they have had the breed. Talk to them to find out what they are like, and how they feel about the pups. Some are better than others, pick a good one. I don't breed goldens, but PM me if you think I can help. :) Incidentally, even with health checks, the dog may have some problems, but you can bet if there are problems, they will be fewer than with a dog whose parents have had no health checks. This pup will go to someone who hasn't been on dogzonline, and to someone who loves it. Perhaps to someone who will spend thousands on health problems because they didn't know any better, but whatever happens, that pup will have a good home. If you buy this pup, you could worry about the others in the litter and where they go - but you wont - so don't worry about that one either. Here is some puppy interaction. Different breeders, both well brought up and socialised, and not sold U. 8 weeks

No matter how auspicious the signs, or how good the buyer, when my gut instinct is "no", that is what I say, without any good reason. Haven't had to do it often. I used to say "yes" when there was no rational reason to say no. This led to a couple of bad endings, now I follow my instincts. Good luck, nothing worse than worrying about a buyer.

Gorgeous, exactly what a boxer needs. No hope of affording one, but nice to look, so thanks for the link!!

You really need to be informed to make any decision. You will live with it for a long time, and if you know it was the right decision, it will rest easier with you -- no matter what that decision is. I would do exactly the same. Good luck with it, and my best wishes for a happy outcome.

You can buy a purebred Mini Foxie (or Tenterfield Terrier) for much less than that. I know what I'd be having. At least you'd know where the purebred came from. R$PCA is big business, not a charity any longer. They are being paid to endorse those places with chooks in barns.

Seems like a less than cost effective means of feeding the carnivores. I would have thought a couple of old cancer eye cows would have been better. I believe I have seen research which suggests that children below a certain age can be traumatised by seeing violence, or the slaughter of animals.

PBGV - or the ones I 've known have been very big barkers. And I would think a Chin would be perceived as more "girly" than a Cavalier. I'd recommend a Schipperke too. Great little dog for the job. Fits the bill just perfectly. Only problem might be the wait to get one.

Chloegirl - how are your boxer babes? How is your mum boxer? Was just thinking of you and the pups.

We have already been divided - mostly by animal rights over 20 years. And we have already fallen. People still don't realise, or deny the facts