WreckitWhippet

Yep, I guess that's about it. And I guess there will probably more than one diet that can achieve that for most dogs. The points I listed are simply triggers for considering how well your dog does on what it is fed now. For me it goes beyond that, as "maintaining weight" doesn't cut it for me. I consider how the dog maintains muscle to be more important. There are foods that will keep weight on a dog and quite frankly some of them have horendous ingredients and then there are foods that assist with maximum growth and repair. For me, the foods my dog does best on are one's that maintain a healthy shiny coat, the dog has no adverse reactions to be it poo related or skin and coat and assists in muscle growth and repair. ETA: I've found that you need a quality protien source to maintain the muscle and some foods just don't cut it in that department

Blue and fawn are determined by the colour of the nose and pigment. If the nose is not black and looks slate or grey then the dog is either a blue or fawn , which is a dilute. If the dog has a black nose and pigment but appears to have a fawn/tan coat then it is a variation of red.

That is Wreckit

Personally I think the fawn has a better topline/outline He's my pick but some long time Whippet people with 30 odd years behind them have said the brindle. It all depends on your taste and if you like them more yank or more English

I've decided on these two Argowan Champagne Supernova and Argowan Califawnication

Feed lamb neck whole of cut in half ( not the rosettes) A piece of roo tail whole is great for stripping and cleaning 1/4 or 1/2 chickens make a good meal Rabbit pieces Dogs can die from anything, including inhaling kibble, so why panic over RMB's

:laugh: that's up for debate

My free roaming dogs sleep where ever they please in the house and my others are crated. My kennel dogs sleep in the kennels and on tramp beds, with futons on top and blankets.

It's the biggest crok of poo going, it's not accurate and it's a pet food company using an unreliable DNA test to push their own product. If people want to know what breed of dog they have, buy a pedigree one and that will come with a breeder who can tell you all about the breed and how best care for it.

Staffy's are generic brindle pound dogs The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is the Stafford. The American Staffrodshire Terrier is the Amstaff. England is the country of origin of the SBT The end........ :laugh:

As I said earlier, The accusation has been made. Put up or shut up. Someone needs to be held accountable. For the action or for the accusation. The fact is there isn't any proof that people have been illegally docking, there haven't been a great number of charges laid and quite frankly I can't remember any ANKC exhibitor being charged, after the very first example hung out to dry years ago. So it looks to be nothing more than someone carting out their bucket of sour grapes and chucking it in the direction of the ANKC.

Raw also has a high % of water but it's the quality of the protien that counts in a food.

If you want to grow an SBT pup steadily and with maximum muscle, I use Royal Canin Adult medium, together with raw foods such as chicken necks, wings, lamb flaps, rabbot, turkey. Whatever you choose, make sure it's raw meat on consumable bone and stay away from the large hard bones. As for the canned food, there's no need for it with an SBT pup,by eight weeks they are powering through chicken wings and the like. You may as well give them something to chew and do when you feed them.

The NSW delegates will be voting against the motion, as per the board meeting

So where are all these people that have illegally docked dogs, that have been charged for it ? If the people illegally docking exist in such numbers, that results in a proposal being put forward to the ANKC, surely there's some evidence to back up the claims ?

And still people are set to blame the victim...

For the ANKC to retain creibility it shouldn't "encourage" members to break the law by turning a blind eye to it either. Anyone who is a showie would have heard chinese whispers similar to the allegations made of deliberate tail breaking to enable a "legal" operation to take place. The more the people whispered the louder it became. This proposal is the reaction of one delegate to the noise. It remains to be seen if others think the same way. It does seem a remarkable coincidence that the breeds most affected by the dreaded tail breakinjg syndrome are those of the previously docked variety however. "Chinese whispers" is often invoked as a metaphor for cumulative error, especially the inaccuracies as rumours or gossip spread, or, more generally, for the unreliability of human recollection. Would ANKC retain any credibility if it acted each time there was a wave of "chinese whispers" circulating within the dog world ? As a long time enthusiast of a breed affected by the change in docking laws I can tell you that there is high degree of heritability of kinks and bends in tails. I believe that this is actually one of the numerous reasons that my breed was docked originally, not just the "injury during work" argument. I also believe that these kinks are polygenic and that there is not just a single gene responsible for it. This makes it hard to breed away from. I have one particular bloodline which will always produce one or two puppies in a litter with kinks or deviations in the tail. I still retain that bloodline because of the many other desirable points within it which I believe are more valuable to the breed than possessing a perfectly straight tail. Since the change in docking laws I have needed to dock only 2 tails because of severe kinks that would lead to problems. However I can see how certain breeds, and bloodlines within those breeds, may have reached a point genetically where there was a large number of puppies born with kinks that would be a problem in adult life. The current tail docking laws retain the ability for these pups to be docked legally ie theraputically. It's quite possible that the supposed "large numbers" of dogs still appearing in the rings have come from quality bloodlines that do regularly produce a heritable form of kinked tails. In days past, this would not have been a problem because these tails would have been tradionally docked. With the current situation breeders and those who wish to obtain a quality dog would be faced with the possibility of moving away from those bloodlines and attempting to breed tails that are perfectly straight. Not an easy task if the gene pool for that breed is heavily saturated with the gene(s) which produce the undesirable trait. Also contributing to the percieved "large numbers" of docked dogs still appearing in the rings is the fact that the docking laws in Western Australia have only recently been changed (mid 2010) to remove the reference to prophylactic docking. Until that point there were many breeders all over Australia taking the option of prophylactic docking in W.A. Dogs that were prophylactically docked in that state would only now be reaching their prime as show dogs and I assume that they will still be appearing in the rings all over Australia for many years to come. I do believe what you believe is incorrect. Rubbish actually. But let's get one thing quite clear , I am pro tail docking. However I cringe at the inane excuses put forward that tail docking is a necessary for anything other than a medical emergency. A whole litter of puppies? Give us a break. Puppy has a crooked tail? Bad luck. Doesn't cut the mustard The story of a working dog running loose in a paddock & coming home with a broken tail. What that has to do with an ANKC registered dog is totally irrelevent. How many real working dogs actually compete in ANKC sanction events? If the answer is more than none I would be surprised. Face the facts people, lame arsed excuses aren't going to fly. They never have, they never will. What ever lame excuse you wish to put forward as to why a breed was previously docked is no longer valid. Reinterate. IMO this proposal is to distance the ANKC from any controversy regarding docked dogs. One in, all in. Or, more to the point. One out, all out. And would be too blame for this situation? Only those who are trying, have tried, have succeed to circumvent the law. They are the betrayers. A question. Have you personally witness a source of a chinese whisper relating to this topic? I have. About a year, give or take a month or two after the law was enacted, I attended a show where three baby puppy Swedish Valhunds, all litter mates, were competeing against each other. All were docked. The story was the whole litter suffered tail damage & were legally docked. You just can't help bad luck! Or they could have been born tailless, but the truth is never as exciting as the chinese whispers

It's not the ANKC's job to "frighten" anyone into doing the right thing. It's not illegal to show a docked dog and all the ANKC need do to be seen to be doing the right thing is make sure that those exhibiting , show only "lawfully" docked dogs and puppies. Again, it's up to the RSPCA and the like to police any laws under POCTA. If vets suspect that a client is deliberately harming a dog or litter, so as to have the tail removed, then they need to report it.

There's a few simple things that the ANKC could adopt 1. Imported docked dogs/puppies can be exhibited, providing they have a vet certification from their country of origin, stating that they have been docked prior to leaving their country of origin (providing it's legal to dock in that country). ANKC papers will be issued with "docked" 2. If a dog leaves this country with a full tail and is imported back into the country, the same applies as above 3. Any "Australian bred" dog/puppy that is to be exhibited or partake in sanctioned events, that has been docked, the owner must supply a vet cert stating that the dog/puppy has been docked for therapeutic reasons and the ANKC pedigree paper work will be amended to say somewhere on it "docked" It's not the ANKC or the State CC's job to police the tail docking laws, that's the job of the RSPCA or any other body responsible for policing POCTA. What the ANKC can do is be seen to be doing the right thing and encouraging only those with dogs/puppies that have been lawfully docked to exhibit or participate in sports.

Let's put it another way then Corvus, if YOU were developing a temperament test, how would YOU assess "gameness" in a standardised test ????

I don't mind if they include the word "unlawfuly" in any motion they put forward. If you cannot exhibit and "unlawfully" docked dog, then so be it. Those that have imported or have lawfully docked and can produce a vet cert should still be able to exhibit and compete.

Ben should know better than to weigh into such a foul smelling pond

Whippets prefer to sleep on the bed and there's nothing wrong with that, they are clean by nature and don't take up much room.

I'm not participating in any "scientific" studies in this state, given the agenda of one McGreevy and followers

Get him up moving and exercising and into a routine