WreckitWhippet

Couple that with the irresponsible owners and yes there's quite a few of those and the breed is going nowhere fast.

No political party in NSW as far as I'm aware wants the legislation repealed. Without the support of the major parties, it's here to stay. In the mean time, the CAA is very clear as to the rights and responsibilites of every dog owner in the state. The Greyhound folk have made significant advances and have lobbied well for the changes to legislation they have brought about. They have done so by complying with the laws ( regardless of them believing them to be fair or not ), they have demonstrated that certain dogs do not pose a threat to the community or other animals if owned responsibly. So far the Pit Bull folk, years down the track have managed to demonstrate none of the aforementioned, hence no changes in this state and no likelyhood of it happening any time soon.

The NSW Act looks good, but it does seem, in Section 55 (Restricted Dogs), to be quite breed specific. It is good, they could repeal section 55 tomorrow and still have adequate and effective laws regarding dangerous dogs. But that's not going to happen when dog owners cannot comply with the current legislation on even the simplist parts of the act like chipping and registration. Hence the need to door knocks and random checks, it's time to fine those who are letting the responsible dog owners down by failing to comply.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/con...act/caa1998174/ This one should do it. Basically, for offending dogs, there is a system of " notice of intent" to declare a dog to be dangerous, various opportunites for owners to appeal along the way and for council to revoke orders. We have had mandatory chipping and registration for many years now and the CAA is very fair to dog owners, when it comes to setting out their rights and their responsibilities. If only dog owners could comply with the basics and councils had the resources and the inclination to enforce it.

Just treasure each day and take things one problem and one symptom at a time, that's really all you can do with them. Even though the feelings are overwhelming, try not to let it get the better of you. There can still be happiness right to the end

NSW has one of the best and most workable pieces of companion animal legislation, the only thing missing is that it's not fully enforced. Now to convince councils that by not enforcing they are missing out on revenue through registrations. Time for a mass door knock by council staff and spot checks on every dog they come across for chip and registration.

Yes and they did it by complying with current legislation, unlike many who oppose BSL and do not chip, register or comply.

I've fed them to the Pugs and the Staffords without any issues, along with turkey necks. I've always used chicken wings and the dogs handle those just fine too. You can buy some pretty big chicken wings

Me too, he's a dog that draws you in , his patience and tolerance is amazing

I wouldn't call a dog that competes in obedience a "working dog". The same as I wouldn't call a back yard hack trained "security" dog a working dog, although there are plenty out there who would like to think they are. ETA: as I hit the wrong button. Obedience, fly ball, agility, schutzhund are not work. The dog is displaying it's trainability and willingness to work with the handler, follow direction and instruction, it is not however " working" in the traditional sense.

An Amstaff is a pitty so if he has no papers its impossible to prove its not an APBT. What he needs to do is handle the dog responsibly, make sure it never escapes which ensures it cant harass anyone or attack anything, keep him on the leash, teach him to heal and other basic obedience. If his a good dog thats well looked you should be all but in the clear. Incorrect. If the dogs parents are registered American Staffordshire Terriers, they can prove the breed via DNA. It would however involve to owners of the parents and maybe even the grand parents being willing to co-operate with the puppy buyer.

He could go to the effort of contacting the breeders of the parents, assuming they have papers and ask if the parents are DNA profiled. If they are and the breeders/owners of the parents are willing to share the details of their registered names and chip, your brother could swab his dog and have proof via DNA as to the breed. If the parents have not been DNA profiled and are not chipped, he would be up for quite a bit of money to go through the process, providing the owners/breeders of the parents are willing to co-operate and assist him.

I was just about to write the same thing, weight does not matter at all. It's the muscle tone and condition of the dog. Growing puppies should be well fed but lean

so you saying any pitbull owner who has done a obedience class can roam free with a RB at the end of a leash? and she registered as a pitbull, but lives cage free, and how itsent that breaking the law? The owners requested an NOI, breed assessed and TT'd. It was unlikely that a happy waggily tailed puppy would fail breed ID and TT. The owners did that off their own bat when she was a baby and now they do not have to abide by any RB legislation, they are free to do as they please within the current laws that apply to every dog other than a restricted breed. The OP could do exactly the same thing if he suspects his dog to be of a resticted breed cross. if you read my posts, i SED the exact thing on how to beat the laws. but yet you tryed to prove me wrong, now you post the same thing. whats up with that? You appear to be very confused about what " breed assessments" , "temperament tests", " authorised assessors" and "authorised officeers" are and how you would go about complying with the Companion Animals Act. No, it's not enough to simply attend an obedience class or have a temp test conducted without an NOI.

so you saying any pitbull owner who has done a obedience class can roam free with a RB at the end of a leash? and she registered as a pitbull, but lives cage free, and how itsent that breaking the law? The owners requested an NOI, breed assessed and TT'd. It was unlikely that a happy waggily tailed puppy would fail breed ID and TT. The owners did that off their own bat when she was a baby and now they do not have to abide by any RB legislation, they are free to do as they please within the current laws that apply to every dog other than a restricted breed. The OP could do exactly the same thing if he suspects his dog to be of a resticted breed cross.

Advice offered to the OP re how to go about registering his dog and how to comply with the current legislation has worked for many dog owners. There's a lovely red girl living just round the corner. Her owners took it upon themselves and beat council to the punch, she lives cage free and she need only follow the same laws as the rest of the non RB owning population in NSW. They don't have their bitch registered as something it's not, they feely attend obedience class and can walk the streets during the day , without having to worry about who might see her. it does work

I've shown people the option and have presented time and again how you can live with the RB legislation and make it work for you as a responsible dog owner.

Somehow I don't think it matters now and Syd is most likely running the gauntlet like countless others. Of course this could be avoided by adhering to the restrictions or purchasing a legal breed of dog.

I don't understand why owners can't have a quick look and a sniff. It costs nothing and takes less than ten seconds an ear to check your dog over. The same can be said for teeth. I'm seen and smelt some rather vomit worthy mouths too

And the insults begin, as per usual when the supporters cannot understand the legislation and have no idea about how to make it work for them.

fine an dandy, but do YOU own an American Pitbull terrier? and do you have first hand experience with dealing with the laws, not just reading legislation. This "legislation" is what the law enforcers have to stick by. It's important that it is adhered to by both the DLG and owners of restricted breeds. When dealing with the laws it pays to know them. That is what PPS is trying to tell you and it is correct. I don't like the stupid law any more than anyone else here. Unfortunately, it's the way it is and that is that. Absolutely and the more you know about them, the greater the chance that you will keep your dog legally out of a cage and be free to enjoy your dog just like the rest of us.

Not that my driving record has anything to do with responsible dog ownership but thanks for asking. In 19 years of driving I've not had so much as a parking ticket, let alone a speeding fine Poodles and Whippets are not in question here, it's ABPT and responsible dog ownership and in particular those who have ilegally purchased several years after the legislation came into being. The OP had the option of either registering the dog for what it is, or what he believes it to be or he could request an NOI from his council and go through the process. He could demonstrate that he is a responsible dog owner who is prepared to abide by the legislation.

fine an dandy, but do YOU own an American Pitbull terrier? and do you have first hand experience with dealing with the laws, not just reading legislation. Yep

DLG reference is 06-67 and CAA 1988 Guideline For Breed Assessors 2006/02.

Read the CAA, it's all there in black and white, what you can and can't do and who is authorised to breed assess and temp test in NSW . It's pretty simple and there's a DLG circular regarding the attempts to circumvent the legislation by going direct to temp test. As a result of such attempts, there are no TT's conducted as part of the due process, unless the dog in question has been breed assessed by an person authorised under the act and has been found to be of a RB cross.