WreckitWhippet

I'll happily put my hand up... "staffy" is the common name given to a brindle dog that could be anything. I don't own or breed " staffy's" , I have Staffords or Staffordshire Bull Terriers and like many other registered breeders, we only sell to those homes who will raise the puppy alongside the family and that does mean in the house. We are also prepared to hang onto pups until the " right" home comes along.

Here's a few more things to think about in a family situation and a puppy left in the back yard. Is the back yard going to be shared by the puppy and the kids ? Or will the yard be the dogs domain ? Will the kids be prepared to pick up every toy each time they leave the yard ? Toys will without a doubt be destroyed if left in the yard How will you calm the excited puppy ? Is an adult prepared to go out into the yard every time a child does, in order to supervise the interaction and make sure that both the puppy and the children behave appropriately ? Are you prepared for a puppy that will jump and in all probability nip at the children while learning which behaviours that are not acceptable? What will the puppy do when it rains for a week non stop/ is freezing cold/ stinking hot and the kids are not interested in going out in the yard ? It's very easy for children to become fearfull of a full on and excited puppy, they also become angry , sad and resentfull after a few of their toys have been destroyed. A puppy that grows up in the house and is surrounded by the kids , is less likely to become over stimulated. It's easier to set the boundaries and enforce the rules for both kids and puppy when they are right there under your nose.

The anti-BSL community employ totally different tactics to those used by us when we were lobbying to have the muzzle law changed. After five years of hard work, we have success. :rolleyes: It certainly wasn't achieved with the attitude of stuff the legislation and displays of non compliance. Are you suggesting that the entire anti-BSL community has that attitude and is non-compliant? Let's just say that there are numerous owners who frequently pop their heads up in threads and sprout about their non compliance and stuff the legislation. As PF says, your worst enemies and biggest downfall are in the Pitbulls own ranks.

The Staffords thrives on companionship and life inside with the family. It's a pretty straight foward, if you don't want a dog that will spend the majority of it's time inside with the family, then don't buy a Stafford.

A History of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier The Stafford like most dogs is a hybrid, developed in the eighteenth century to satisfy the so called 'sporting' pastime of dog fighting. Staffords were breed from Bulldogs and Terriers, many different crosses were made in an attempt to develop a game, tenacious and intelligent fighting dog. Bulldogs had been used for baiting sports for hundreds of years but baiting sports were outlawed in 1877. Although baiting continued in some areas for many years eventually, what with the pressures bought to bear by animal rights campaigners such as the RSPCA, these bloody and gruesome pastimes died off. Bulldogs and Terriers were used by 'Sportsman' of the time who looked to other forms of sport/entertainment and so it came that the Bull and Terrier, the Pit Dog, breed by black country steelworkers and miners specifically for the purpose of Dog fighting was born. sorry but im sure they were not originally bred to be indoor family pets The SBT was highly prized and as Ellz said , they did infact live in the home and the reputuation of the "nanny dog" was not something that came about as a result of living in the back yard. As the blood sports became more frowned upon and eventually illegal, the SBT survived because of it's affinity with the children and it's family orientation.

gotta love it when someone trots out the old " dogs have lived outdoors for thousands of years " arguement, which has no relevance to the Stafford and living outside what so ever.

A mongrel Kelpie cross is not a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Different body, different temperament and different requirements.

Poor Trixie Did she get a boob job at the same time ?

I agree Sandra, chuck them outside and you don't see the breed as it truly is. None of the registered breeders I know will sell a pup to someone who does not intend for it to be inside, living with the family.

Staffords are very human orientated, they are NOT the breed to purchase if you want a dog that lives outside in the back yard. Staffords denied companionship ( and I include living in the yard full time as that ) quickly become bored, lonely and begin to exhibit unwanted behaviours. This includes barking, digging, fence fighting, mass destruction of your yard and garden and once they work out how to get out of your yard, you can add serial escape artist to the list. It's not fair on a Stafford to live in a back yard. They like to be indoors with their family at night and to be involved in whatever activities you do during the day. They are also far easier to train and set your expectations when it comes to the children, if they are in the home and interacting with them from an early age. Having them around the kids inside the home, reduces the excitement that the puppy gets when seeing the children, there will be less jumping, biting and rough play from your pup if it spends time inside with them. Staffords are very smart and can be quickly house trained, crate trained or taught to lay on their own mat or in their own degignated area.

The anti-BSL community employ totally different tactics to those used by us when we were lobbying to have the muzzle law changed. After five years of hard work, we have success. It certainly wasn't achieved with the attitude of stuff the legislation and displays of non compliance.

Good old fashioned cough medicine and keep them warm.

it was the same for conformation clubs and exhibitors when the levy was introduced. Clubs either had to suck it up or pass on the $1 to each dog entered. If anything, the sporting competitors got a free ride out of this, given they could run one dog multiple times for their $1, where as conformation exhibitors had to wear the $1 for every dog they entered and only got one bang for their buck.

I don't know what you are complaining about, we all have to pay it. Most weekends I would contribute around $16 per show in levy and still pay entries on top of that.

In NSW baby puppy and property classes are exempt. We pay the $1 levy for each class entered. Given that it was resolved at the April Board meeting to continue with the levy, it's unlikely to be revoked any time soon. We all pay it, be it conformation or sporting and we also pay for our titles, the same as sporting and obedience people do.

when do these dogs see sunlight during the week ?

2 vacc, first one after 8 weeks, second one 4 weeks after that, then one booster 12 months after and nothing for the rest of their lives. C3 only here ETA: Dog was barking and I forgot to add, never had parvo

Carriers are just that and given that offspring can be tested it's not an issue, providing that they are all tested prior to sale. Any affected animal should be removed from the gene pool. It's upto a breeder to change a pup down to the limit register not a buyer. The moral of the story is , don't buy it in the first place

She's probably bored stupid confined in a puppy pen all day. Build a secure run outside, with an area to soak up some sunshine and a good covered area that offers plenty of shade and also a warm kennel. She'll be much happier

They pop up every now and then in the course of a normal litter, it just depends on what's behind the dog and bitch. Plenty of breeders like their pieds and a well marked pied is always eye catching. They are certainly not "rare" and like any colour would be open to exploitation should they become heaven forbid "popular"

If your other options fail, I'll post you down our cat trap free of charge.

If you trap them, then take them to the pound during pound hours, council cannot refuse to impound a stray animal, no matter how much they argue about it. Your dog could potentially be made very ill from this and there are times when you just have to look after your own. I've got two cat traps set at the moment to catch a few that are choosing to wander through my yard and make themselves at home. Cats in our yard are a risk to our dogs.

Just take care of it yourself. Given that you are faced with a dog that could at any time become very ill from eating it , I wouldn't rely on council or cat owners to fix the issue.

Get a cat trap from council , catch them and take them to the pound. Or you can buy your own off ebay for around $50 and that way you'll always have one on hand should you have the same issue again. http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_tr...-All-Categories

I see no reason why anyone can't own two male dogs, it all comes down to the temperament of the individual dogs and the owners experience. A dog and a bitch tend to be a better match on the whole but again it comes down to the individual dogs. From my own experiences, they don't call bitches " bitches" for no reason.