WreckitWhippet

Agreed I also don't think that people either know or care to understand the standard. Add to that the fact they are short coupled and expected to be broad through chest, over the loin and hind quarter, you are never going to see the racey look that people are expecting, except in an animal that is not correct.

They are quite inactive unless there is something to chase or they are young pups. Most prefer to lay around and sun themselves than do anything else. Most enjoy some form of exercise but they don't usually demand it, it's easy to put weight on them and their diets require careful monitoring just like other breeds. They aren't usually known for being ravenous pigs but they can be and they will beg for food, dumpster dive and steal.

Actually it doesn't take a lot of work to make on fat.

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No it doesn't excuse her vigilante actions, trespass, theft and other behaviours she partakes in and encourages others to do the same in the name of "animal rights" "Oscars Law" is nothing more than a bunch of looney animal rights activists. Ensuring animals receive and acceptable level of care according to legislation and that they comply with planning is the job of the RSPCA and the Local Councils, not a bunch of nutters lead by Tranter.

she is a thieving , lying troll and good riddance. I call it a publicity stunt, more people feel sorry for her and drawn to her cause.

uumm yep, whatever you say. Perhaps you might like to try and condense the dribble into a few lines of comprehendible English and I'll have another go at trying to understand you. Kennels clubs exist for the purpose of providing and maintaining the registry and in some cases the sports associated with pedigree dogs and their associates, not the twaddle that you have attempted to describe it as.

It is a fact that pedigree dogs are more predictable in terms of temperament, behaviours, type, structure and soundness, that is the very reason they are what they are, a "breed". They are also predictable when it comes to behaviour despite the "human element", be it aloofness, merriness, boldness, prey drive, aggression, territorial behaviour and the list goes on. Wether you are a responsible dog owner or not, it plays little part in your Cockers merriness, your Staffords bold fearless temperament, your Sighthounds aloofness, your Terriers prey drive etc, a breed is what it is, as are their temperaments in general. You can control the behaviours with training but the basic underlying temperament and behaviours associated with the various breeds are always going to be there. Your average working dog will chase stock, your average Terrier has a level of prey drive that will see it hunt, the Gundogs are invariably "birdie", the Bull breeds will fight, the breeds traditionally used to protect livestock and property invariably do so when they typically pass the puppy stage.

What are you on about?

Once again, being a pedigree dog owner, I need not be concerned about BSL. It doesn't affect me now and is not going to in the future. The odd owner of an ANKC pedigree dog has come under council scrutiny, however that's been quickly sorted out with the sighting of the papers and corresponding chip. Dogs NSW smartly and very quickly in the beginning made sure that our pedigree dogs weren't subject to BSL. ETA: I am yet to see all of the "you'll be next " scaremongering become reality. We are into the 8th or 9th year of BSL in NSW and nothing has changed. No ANKC recognised breeds have been added to the list.

This is a good example. Domestic dogs survive in our communities as a single species. You can't divide them. They are interdependent. If you do divide them by artificial lines they can't be antagonistic to each other. If you destroy one half you destroy both. Damage one half and the other suffers equaly. Domestic dogs and pedigree dogs are a single entity. They share their foundations. You say get a pedigree and no worries. If you allow this on the basis that it won't affect you, you are wrong. You just can't predict how. I suspect people will become even more irresponsible. If we let people think a breed can be inherently dangerous, regardless of how its raised and trained, Why Shouldn't they believe breed is responsible for a lot more. Any thing that takes handler responsibility. An "Its got nothing to do with me, I'm just the owner" mentality. You encourage that by your inaction and complacency. Unless you tell people otherwise, All they see is that every problem comes down to breed. Its the breed. But you let that pass because it doesn't affect your world. It does. You share the same foundations. You damage your foundations and undermine what you stand on. Not just some mysterious other half. Its all undermined. Then I suppose we will complain again of how "they", the public should take responsibility and learn more. Start agitating for compulsory dog owners licenses. And its already starting to get a bit too tedious to be bothered anymore. By By domestic dogs for a lot more people. Fewer still to Join ANKC. If you let your base be undermined, theres nothing to grow from. Pedigree dogs don't need non pedigree dogs to survive. There could be no cross breeds or dogs of unknown origin left in this country and we could still continue to breed pedigrees. Some of the primitive and Sighthound breeds accept the use of native stock or desert dogs when breeding and occasionally stud books are opened from time to time but when they are it's controlled and doesn't encompass a random mating with muttly nextdoor. You won't see an ANKC breed added to BSL, not going to happen. I know it as do countless other owners of ANKC breeds with papers and corresponding chips. The only people that can't see it are those with generic brindle pound mutts, wannabe's without papers that owners refer to as Amstaffs and those who have come under council scrutiny. For those of us with ANKC registered animals, we have nothing to fear, DogNSW negotiated our freedom a long time ago when we distanced ourselves from the sinking Pitbull ship.

It's not BSL and you know that.

BSL is legislated by the individual states, the Feds the import restrictions. You might see cross breeds added to the states BSL lists or more "types" of dogs but you aren't going to see any ANKC recognised breeds with ANKC papers targeted. Anyone with an ANKC registered dog with corresponding microchip has nothing to fear from BSL. Stating " your breed could or will be next" is bullshit and scaremongering. Don't buy a cross bred or a dog without ANKC papers and you won't have anything to be concerned about.

Yes. Me. I don't call it a win for dogs or against BSL. You don't want ABPTs banned. Fighting against BSL by advocating that another dog breed be banned? That's the flaw in your logic. Any line of argument, as used by the APBT people during the fight to stop BSL, that tries to put other breeds in the crosshairs, is hardly going to endear the wider dog community to the APBT side of the argument. Don't use the "we're all in this together" argument while shoving other breeds into the spotlight for targetting. That's illogical too. It's also bloody unfair. Nope we aren't all in this together, as clearly those who have ANKC registered animals are not subject to BSL

Nope, not a problem that concerns me, as all of my dogs are ANKC registered animals. Choose wisely and purchase an ANKC registered dog with corresponding microchip and you won't have an issue with Council and BSL. Is BSL right, does it work ? probably not But it's been around a long time now, it's not going to disappear anytime soon and owners have choices.

The hare lip and fractured palate had nothing to do with the immaturity of the bitch

Perhaps you might like to stick to dispensing advice for a breed that you have actually had something to do with. Perhaps you should be less rude. I was being helpful and have experience with deaf Staffords and know it does happen. Have a nice day :) No one is denying it happens. However the way you post suggests that it happens a lot. SBT people say it doesn't. Very confusing and worrying for the breeder of these pups don't you think? Just out of interest, how many is the "plenty" of deaf White Staffords you have encountered? Are you sure you don't mean Bull Terriers? I actually used to know a lady in the hunter valley, quite a few years ago that rescued deaf/partialky deaf white staffers mostly, she had about 4 or 5 over the time I I knew her. I have also come across a few in shelters and met one reg sbt completely white and completely deaf. I am not sure whether the rescued ones were pure on not but they looked very staffy. I have only met a couple of deaf bts. I've known quite a few deaf acds though. They're not uncommon around here unfortunately. I didn't mean to scare her (if I did) , I was just concerned. And there in lies your problem. Your "shelter" experience is not experience with pedigree registered dogs, the dogs you are describing could and are likely to be cross bred. I know breeders that have 30 or more years in the breed and are yet to breed a deaf one and plenty of them have been white.

Perhaps you might like to stick to dispensing advice for a breed that you have actually had something to do with.

You've been googling too much. There is no need for the OP to rush off and have them tested, stop the scaremongering.

Don't waste your money

How time flies.

Perhaps you might like to change that from "straight back" to a "level top line". The breed standard calls for a straight back, with slightly sloping croup.

Pup is already showing signs of not feeding correctly. Healthy Stafford pups suckle so hard it takes the bitch getting up and dragging them across the box for them to fall off. In the mean time while the inexperienced try this that and the other and put a baby through surgery, it's the pup that suffers. But hey, the bleeding hearts win while the animal suffers.

The experienced SBT breeders are saying that their euth pups with hare lips and palate problems.

Do you mean a Hare lip ? If it's a big split in the top lip, it's VERY common in the breed. Every breeder I know including myself PTS pups with hare lips.