WreckitWhippet

why spend the $8-$12 to have a judge tell you the same

Orange sucks, come to Blayney ;) the weather is lovely, if you like snow Does it have a Coles for me to transfer to ;) and since I'll have to drag my Dad along to pay half the mortgage does it have a smash repairs ;) ? Coles within 35k's either way, Smash repairs gets a tick and houses are cheap as.

I think you might be out of luck.

Yes do show him, there aren't enough out there, given the numbers being bred.

Nope. I do not find that puppy cute. But since he's not my dog what does it matter what I think of him? The question was why can't I show my blue and the answer was you can but don't be surprised if you don't win because blues as a general rule (not her blue specifically) lack the physical virtues required to make it in the ring. No one made any negative comment about the ability of a blue to be a great pet, have a great temperament etc etc etc. If you then post a picture of a dog (whether it's a good picture or not, or even actually a picture of her dog or not) you have to reasonably expect people to comment on whether or not that specific dog as portrayed in that specific picture looks to have the quality to make it in the ring or not. especially when the question is " why you can't show a blue"

ahhh-ha :D

Sorry for you loss Katie, I've been lost for words. Harry will always bring a smile to my face :rolleyes:

none of the above, they are all complete fruits loops and they are feral. The only one who is well behaved is Sessy Whippet but she has her moments too :rolleyes:

Orange sucks, come to Blayney :D the weather is lovely, if you like snow

May I ask why? Are you basing your opinion solely on colour? Hope you dont mind my asking. There are several things that immediately jump out at me and that's before he even stands up, as I said in the previous post " regardless of colour"

valuheart and heartgard are ivermectin, proheart is moxidectin I can't think what else does heartworm alone ETA" Arristopet ( or however it's spelt make one too ) with a single ingredient.

That's what I don't understand. Without the papers and the bragging rights, he's just any other dog to a BYBer. So why take him ? and not just buy a dog to breed with. Maybe the person just wanted to have him ? who knows

dilution alopecia is just that.

Right, so the colour doesn't matter because a blue staffy can be fit for purpose, which begs the question, why are they verboten? Why are they forbidden ? They aren't

Not being fit for purpose is not the sole domain of a certain colour, they do however have more than their rare fair share of them and there is very little hope of the surrent situation improving. Back to the topic of "showing" them, colour aside, very few of them would make the grade, the vast majority do not measure up.

I doubt dogs with excess flesh, flat large feet, straight stifles, dumpy front ends, bulldog fronts, large drop ears, narrow little underjaws, with narrow rows of incissors and short inverted canines, over done or over boned would be fit for purpose and go a round. Are all of the above caused by their colour? You know the answer to that

I doubt dogs with excess flesh, flat large feet, straight stifles, dumpy front ends, bulldog fronts, large drop ears, narrow little underjaws, with narrow rows of incissors and short inverted canines, over done or over boned would be fit for purpose and go a round.

You are 100% correct, the puppy farmers will find another means and it will simply be to transport in bulk by road ( which can be far less kind to a baby than a quick couple of hours on a plane ) or the agents will do the rounds and collect them, once again by road transport. There will be more puppies crammed into vans and trailers doing the rounds of the country. It will be the registered breeders who will not be able to transport babies safely or at a convenient time, because the option of air travel will no longer be viable. It will suck to be someone who lives in WA or any location where they would want to fly a young puppy in or out and the alternatives are limited or in some cases no existent

My crystal ball predicts a whole lot of heart ache coming your way. I give it 12 months and this bitch will be BYB. The alarm bells went off and nothing you've added since the first page has changed my mind. I hope I'm wrong

I don't get why you would steal the dog in the first place. If you planned to use him at stud, he'd be as worthless as any dog off the street, given you couldn't advertise the fact that he was a winner and he'd have no papers. I wonder what will be said in court

I'm guessing you have concluded that the dilute gene being the reason for the skin problems is only referring to the stafford? I am not aware of specific skin issues being linked to the dilute gene in some other breeds - some of which are exclusively dilutes. Could it possibly be that the skin issues are a bigger problem in the blues because the overbreeding of blues has resulted in poor specimens with untested or overlooked issues being bred? and because most of the breeders out there who are doing this are very much breeding for the "rare" blue colour, there is a higher incidence of blues with skin issues? Please feel free to direct me to the genetic research that links the dilute gene to skin issues - I hadn't heard about this except for in the blue staffy threads. Dobes have the dilute gene - black dilute is blue and brown dilute is fawn. It is a recessive gene and both parents must carry the gene to produce it. Though I know of one dog who was in a litter with all four colours - so black sire and brown dam both carried the gene - he was a dominant black dog, meaning he produced only black regardless of the bitches colour and hereditary. According to our colour / hereditary charts this is not possible . Love genetics. Alot of the blue and fawn dobes do develop coat problems though again I know of 3 fawns who have stunning coats and are in their later years now - the blues tend to have a rougher and thinner coat. FCI judges will dismiss blue and fawn dogs from the ring even though they are recognised here. Interestingly the blue and fawns tend to have the most correct stunning heads in our breed and produce fantastic progeny - though not sure that I would double up on the alopecia issue I would certainly keep a fawn to breed on with if we produced one (we do have the genes in our lines). Sadly that's not the same for the SBT's. They are hands down the worst examples of the breed and are producing more of the same. I'd prefer the dilutes be referred to in the standard, the same as the livers and the black and tans, but that's a whole other sotry.

I do it for the fun day out with the dogs, I always have but that's no excuse to put a second rate dog or bitch into the ring. The pup is also on the main register and I really have to ask WHY ?

Cute doesn't cut it in the show ring, baby puppies of every breed are cute but that's not reason enough to show them. He wouldn't get a start at my place, regardless of his colour.

Thank dog I flew the baby out last week at 9 weeks. I can't see the point of waiting until they are 12 weeks, the puppy buyers ususally want their pups ASAP and although mine hang around until they are 9 weeks, I certainly don't want them here at 12, when they should be with their new families.

beats the belt buckle and a piece of foam that my frenchie ate , hands down