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Yes my black labradors had ear infections as well as dry lack lustre coats (dandruff & itchiness) when I fed them Black Hawk, so will never feed my Labs this food ever again.

I may also be one of those awful people who doesn't really like labs... Every one I've met has been lovely but I just don't get them! God me too! I don't know what it is about them but I don't get the hype I find the goldens way more attractive if I was looking into that sort of dog. Why turn this thread into a Lab hating thread I don't get people that don't get Labs and I probably don't get some of the breeds these people like either, but I don't feel the need to hate on their breeds just because I don't get them/like them. It gives me the sh*ts when these type of threads turn into a particular breed hating/disparaging exercise. The OP specified up front "I don't need lab-style exuberance" and it should have been left there. Jesus calm the farm, it's called a forum and sharing opinion, there are people that don't like all sorts of breeds suck it up and don't take it personal. No one is lab bashing, get some therapy OP stated what they were looking for and their preferences including "I don't need lab-style exuberance" which is fine, but people either don't read the posts properly or disregard the OP's preferences and recommend breeds, including Labs, that don't fit the OP's preferences/requirements. Then people like yourself just have to make a totally uncalled for snarky comment on Labs without even recommending a breed that might suit the OP. The OP didn't ask for opinion on Labs, but because people were recommending/mentioning Labs they thought they needed to clarify further why they didn't want a Lab, which they didn't really need to or could have done better as their response only provided people like yourself who obviously don't like Labs, an opportunity to bash them. Of course I don't expect everyone to like Labs, god forbid any more totally unsuitable owners get their hands on our beloved breed, but it gets tiresome when my breed and some others get more than their fair share of bashing on this forum. As for your comment that I get some therapy, hmmmm pretty unworthy of a response.

I may also be one of those awful people who doesn't really like labs... Every one I've met has been lovely but I just don't get them! God me too! I don't know what it is about them but I don't get the hype I find the goldens way more attractive if I was looking into that sort of dog. Why turn this thread into a Lab hating thread I don't get people that don't get Labs and I probably don't get some of the breeds these people like either, but I don't feel the need to hate on their breeds just because I don't get them/like them. It gives me the sh*ts when these type of threads turn into a particular breed hating/disparaging exercise. The OP specified up front "I don't need lab-style exuberance" and it should have been left there.

Unless these beds have been drastically improved, I would not recommend these beds as I got a couple for my Labs around 4-5 years back now thru COTD and was very disappointed in them. They were pretty flat and did not provide the comfort and cushioning I expected, they certainly were not luxurious as described.

"Yay, I'm on my way home with my new family!" - Fantastic news for this gorgeous girl, so so happy for her

**Update** - this gorgeous boy "is no longer available for adoption"

I rang RSPCA this morning about this gorgeous girl and also Gizmo the black Lab youngster. It appears that Gizmo is safe with Rescue but this girl, Simba is still looking for a home. I spoke with RSPCA about listing this girl as a Lab cross as she definately appears 100% Lab and they explained that unless they have papers to indicate they are a purebred Labrador, then they will be listed as a cross, which is what has obviously happened in this girl's case. Papers aside, I say this girl is 100% Lab. Anyway she needs a home and having adopted seniors before, I say to anyone please don't discount adopting a senior and especially a Labrador, as my past 9 year old Labs have been pretty active and in great shape and one of my 9 year olds used to give the youngster a run for their money. :laugh: Also please don't think that you may not have a senior long as the two senior boys I adopted in the past at 10 years of age lived to 15yrs and 15yrs 8months old respectively and were two of the easiest Labs I have had the pleasure of owning and loved their daily walks and retrieving right up to the last couple of weeks of their lives. I was also reading on one of the Lab rescue facebook pages the other day that a Lab adopted a couple of years ago celebrated his 16th birthday a couple of days ago Hopefully there is a compassionate loving family/person that will give this gorgeous girl a wonderful forever home and I know from past experience, that she will repay you tenfold. :)

This gorgeous yellow Lab girl was mentioned in the thread I started about the gorgeous 3 year old black Lab boy in RSPCA Yagoona, so I thought I would start a separate thread for her to give her more visibility. She has been on my mind a lot especially now that winter has hit with a vengeance and at 9 years of age she should be inside on a nice warm bed as a pampered pooch instead of being in her current situation of a pound environment looking for a new home. She is listed as Lab cross, but once you click on link below to view her profile, then click on her pic to get a closeup of her you will she looks all Lab, I cannot see any mix in her whatsoever. 9 yr old yellow Labrador girl I am hoping there is someone out there that is in a position to give this gorgeous girl a home. I will probably ring RSPCA to check if there has been any interest in her and the 3 yr old black Lab boy.

Glad you brought up this issue. There's loads of research which shows even the best of pound/shelter environments are stressful for dogs (not least of which they've often just been snatched away from the security of a home & their 'people'). In other words, it's within the normal range of expected consequences for some dogs to feel very stressed in that particular environment. And that's what a so-called 'temperament' test will be recording .... the consequences of stress. But at least that shelter seems to give the labs a second chance to move into a more home-like & less stressful environment so they can be tested again. Not surprised that the majority then came thro' fine. Sadly there must be other pounds/shelters who don't allow for that. Yes luckily the Labs that do find themselves in Yagoona do have a second chance with the dedicated Lab Rescues if they fail the RSPCA temp tests. So many other poor souls are not that lucky A pound environment is a very scary place for many dogs who have had their lives turned upside down when they find themselves in a pound environment and obviously so many of them will fail the temp tests due to the high levels of stress. I don't know what type of temp tests the RSPCA uses and whether any of the temp tests conducted by any pounds/shelters factor in the high levels of stress.

Must have been very scary for you and your dog and so glad he recovered. I have had a couple of my senior Labs on Cartrophen without any issues whatsoever and it helped them greatly. However, their frequency differed greatly from your boy's as after the initial once a week for 4 weeks, they were given it either once every 12 months or 6 months depending on how they were going. Once a month for a 10 year old dog just starting to show signs of arthritis seems IMHO excessive. No doubt this reaction would scare you off Cartrophen, so what about supplements like Jointguard and Rosehip Vital (Canine) to help your boy with his arthritis. I put my 7 year old Lab is on both of these when he ruptured his cruciate ligament and had TPLO surgery and he also damaged his meniscus so he will be more susceptible to arthritis.

Unfortunately happens all the time at various ages for all sorts of reasons There are two 13 year old Lab girls, one with Labrador Rescue and one with Labradog Rescue looking for new homes What about the poor old 9 year old Lab also in Yagoona http://adoptapet.com.au/animal/animalDetails.asp?animalType=3&state=2&searchTypeId=4&pagesize=15&task=view&tpage=6&searchType=4&animalid=430448 Poor girl, I didn't know about her being there as well as Lab Rescue only posted about Gizmo on Facebook, so I was essentially giving him an extra plug. I will check to see if both Lab rescues know about Simba. Thanks. I don't think Yagoona work with rescue though do they? :/ I know my RSPCA back home in Somersby do, I wish they all would I contacted Labrador Rescue and they advised if a Lab passes the RSPCA test, then the Lab will be rehomed by RSPCA. If a Lab doesn't pass their test, then they will normally contact Labrador Rescue or Labradog Rescue about taking on the Lab. I have seen some of these RSPCA failed Labs in Labradog/Labrador Rescue's care and more often than not they were just very stressed in the Pound type environment and flourised when moved into care with one of the two dedicated Labrador Rescues. Labrador Rescue will give some of these RSPCA Labs a plug on their facebook page as well to help increase their chances of adoption. I did include the link to this gorgeous girl in the post on Gizmo on Labrador Rescue's Facebook page, so hopefully that will give her a bit more visibility as well.

Unfortunately happens all the time at various ages for all sorts of reasons There are two 13 year old Lab girls, one with Labrador Rescue and one with Labradog Rescue looking for new homes What about the poor old 9 year old Lab also in Yagoona http://adoptapet.com.au/animal/animalDetails.asp?animalType=3&state=2&searchTypeId=4&pagesize=15&task=view&tpage=6&searchType=4&animalid=430448 Poor girl, I didn't know about her being there as well as Lab Rescue only posted about Gizmo on Facebook, so I was essentially giving him an extra plug. I will check to see if both Lab rescues know about Simba.

If anyone is looking for a gorgeous black male labrador youngster, there is this boy, Gizmo, located at RSPCA Yagoona, Sydney. Hopefully this gorgeous boy finds himself a home very soon. Gizmo - 3 yr old black male Labrador Labrador Rescue are aware of him and I am just trying to give him more visibility from their Facebook post about him.

My 7 year old black Labrador I adopted just over a year ago is on Hills Prescription Z/D due to his allergies (skin and ear issues). My regular vet advised to try him on it first before we went down the Vet Dermatologist track. I reluctantly put him on it (I hate the Hills range of food :D ), along with fresh Kangaroo meat and Turkey. It took a good 3-4 weeks before it made a difference, but it did make a difference and he was scratching a lot less, but his coat was lack lustre and he still had ear issues which needed to be sorted out, so I did take him to Linda Vogelnest, the Vet Dermatolgist at SASH. After intensive daily ear treatment prescribed by Linda, his ears finally cleared up and I kept him on the Z/D for the kibble component of his diet. As per Linda's recommendation, I had to throw in all sorts of other food to start with and then put him on an elimination diet to find out what worked best for him. In addition, Linda recommended Evening Primrose Oil Capsules and what a difference these made to his coat which is now nice glossy healthy looking and I also put my other Lab on these capsules as well and it has made a big difference to his coat as well. Interestingly enough, what worked best for him was the original diet I tried first of Hills Prescription Z/D, fresh Kangaroo meat and Turkey and I sometimes throw in chicken frames and chicken wings without any adverse reactions. Linda did advise to continue to try the Zyrtec which I did have him on originally as per advice from his vet, but they didn't seem to help much. He and my other Lab boy are still on the Primrose Oil Capsules (1 per 10kg of body weight) and their coats are still in great condition. My allergy boy's ears are still clean with no issues whatsoever as I check both boys ears very regularly. I have at times been thinking about trying Nutro again with my allergy boy for the kibble component which is what I feed my other boy for his kibble component with no issues, but am worried that his skin/itchiness ear issues may come back and undo all the good work that has been done over the last 9months. I may try another sensitive skin/allergy issue kibble at some in the future and see how he goes with that and am also considering put him on 100% raw as he is already now on probably 70-75% raw anyway. As much as I hate Hills range of food and it is expensive I did have success with my boy on it but you need to give it time to work, at least 3-4 weeks. If you do put your dog on it and it doesn't work, I would probably recommend you get an appointment with Linda Vogelnest at SASH, she is fantastic, extremely knowledgeable and a very kind and lovely lady. Goodluck with your GSD and wish you all the best in getting the ear and skin issues sorted, I know only too well how problematic this can be for a dog, it is awful to see them scratching and being so uncomfortable, particularly their ears.

Some of these stories are just hilarious, particularly the nipple stories and oh to have been a fly on the wall when the Vet "invited the owner to take of his shirt, look at his chest and tell her what he saw" :rofl:

I hope this scumbag will come to the attention of dog loving inmates who hopefully will deal out their own brand of justice :D Scumbag jailed for 18months for bashing puppies to death

You obviously did not research enough on the Labrador breed . A hallmark of the Labrador temperament is their "strong will to please" and as such they are a very closely bonding dog who forms very strong attachments to their humans and are totally devoted companions so they do not fare very well when relegated to the outside and ignored by their humans. It is bad enough doing this when they are adults, but inexcusable to a baby pup who had undergone a huge upheaval in leaving his mum and litter mates and thrust outside all on his own This statement beggars belief . Why on earth did you get a Labrador (or for that matter any dog) , with feelings like this you will never be able to meet this poor dog's needs. This poor pup needs to be in a home where it is wanted, loved, nurtured and where all its needs will be met. It is obvious you are not a suitable Lab owner, so please do the right thing by this pup and return to the Breeder. If that is not an option, I am happy to take him and find him a great home as I am a very experienced Lab owner of many many years.

Article on abc.net.au this afternoon, link and full article below: Qld Govt announces a Commission of Inquiry into the greyhound racing industry replacing the review already underway

Oh dear another tanty! Expecting a consensus on a forum is mission impossible :laugh: , opposing views are the norm, don't know why people seem to get their knickers in a knot over it. Sounds to me like you have become pretty jaded from fighting too many battles for dogs over the years and I can understand the demoralising affect this can have and the pessimistic outlook it creates. People/groups are working together to find solutions outside of shutting down the industry and have been working on this for some time and before the live baiting program was aired. Some of us want the industry shutdown as an ultimate goal but as a first step, will settle for a signficant overhaul of the industry that includes giving priority to the welfare of the greyhounds.

Sure the public are being educated but they are not just being educated by people who use a few cases to sensationalise via the media.They are also being educated by the response - which to live lures was that this is unacceptable, the people have been punished and steps will be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again. Ordinary everyday members of the public have no reason to continue to be interested about live lures - its not like the industry came out and said they agreed with it and they would continue to use this method to train their dogs. The finding of mass graves shows that lots are being killed but the public already know lots of dogs are being killed - animal rights and animal welfare have been telling them this for decades.The general public have heard all about piggeries, caged birds, crutching and mulsing,jumping and whipping horses,duck shooting, fox hunting, Roo shooting,deer shooting, abattoir and knackery practices, live animal transport and export etc. They have seen people who call themselves rescuers who hoard animals and keep them in filthy conditions, they have seen show judges of dogs, cats and horses prosecuted for animal cruelty , small breeders and large breeders under the spotlight,accused of all manner of cruelty and neglect including mass graves, and pedigree dogs exposed, the pet shops exposed and accused for a pile of things, including where they buy their puppies from, just before Easter a vet nurse who worked for the RSPCA was found guilty of neglect and cruelty and Im sorry I just dont think that the majority of people care that much about how many greys are bred which wont cut the grade or where they are buried enough for a government to bring in legislation that would adversely affect so many people including them. No one is accusing them of being as bad as puppy farmers "breeding their poor bitches to death" keeping them in filthy conditions, not feeding them well enough, not vetting them, or exercising them, using methods to transport them that are cruel, breeding them with adverse genetic conditions,doping them, inhumanely killing them etc. The dogs they discard are treated well until the day they die. Actually that is not correct. The 2013 NSW inquiry into the greyhound racing industry received over 2,000 submissions with many concerns over these types of issues. I am sure many of these groups and individuals will also be raising the same issues in this latest NSW Special Commission of Inquiry currently being conducted by Commissioner McHugh. Also, I am not sure if you are aware that NSW is currently undertaking their Five Year Statutory Review of the NSW Greyhound Racing Act 2009. The closing date for submissions from individuals and organisations was originally 31 January 2015, but this was extended to 2 March 2015 after the Four Corners Live Baiting program was aired in February, so between this latest Special Commission of Inquiry and the Five Year Statutory Review of the Greyhound Racing Act 2009, these same concerns and others have been submitted. Some links that should be checked out to give you and others insight into the Review on the NSW Greyhound Racing Act 2009 and a couple of submissions to get an idea on what issues are being discussed/have been raised in this review: Govt Discussion Paper for submissions to review of Greyhound Racing Act (GRA) Law Society Young Lawyers Animal Law Committee Submission to Review of GRA Australian Veterinary Association Submission to Review of GRA When you feel passionate about something and you feel that what you are seeing is so horrible you expect that everyone else will see things your way - all you have to do is tell them about what you feel is needing to be changed and of course how could they not agree. In my opinion,regardless of how I feel about it or how those who care enough to beat their drum want it greyhound racing and betting on greyhound racing is not going to be banned in Australia in the foreseeable future and I think its unrealistic to put energy into fighting for this at this time.At best you may chase off some sponsors but that's a small impact. I think focusing on this and believing that it will happen because of an assumption that the majority of the people who vote and make decisions will agree with you once they are educated and not consider potential unintended consequences that this is the preferable solution is an obstacle in finding viable solutions now today. How do you think change happens if people don't agitate for change. We all need to take a stand on issues that we feel passionately about and not skulk away quietly because the issue is a difficult one and the chances of all of the changes required happening may be slim. By putting an industry in the spotlight for long enough and constantly chipping away, results can be yielded and progress can be made. Sometimes this is through smaller changes being made initially, followed by more significant changes over time. That has nothing to do with how much I care or how passionate I am to try to find solutions for the dogs - I just dont agree that the problem is as uncomplicated as some think it is and I don't agree that the solutions that some want to focus on hold the short term answers. I would like the opportunity to discuss other potential actions we might be able to advocate for which are more realistic to help the dogs now without having to wear amour and having to defend myself as if Im condoning the current situation. Will be interested if anything new comes out of your discussions that hasn't already been raised in the submissions to the 2013 NSW Inquiry, current (2015) Special Commission of Inquiry into the Greyhound Racing Industry and the Five Year Statutory Review of the NSW Greyhound Racing Act 2009

So you think that the people you spoke to yesterday are representative of the general public, I don't think so. Just like I don't think that the noise is coming from the minority and I do think that majority of people do feel "some perceived outrage" at what goes on in the greyhound racing industry now that these issues are being aired in the public arena and I am sure there will be more and more revelations on the greyhound racing industry. Times they are a changing for animal welfare, thank God and some people will continue to keep their heads in the sand and continue with their outdated beliefs and practices and others will move forward in line with changing community expectations.

I think perhaps things are getting a bit confused here. There are many people involved in the industry: Owners (motivated by the desire to have fun racing a dog. Winning is a bonus. They may also bet, but they don't BUY a dog to bet on it) Breeders (motivated by the desire to produce a good race dog. Prize money in Victoria is very good - first place in most city races is around $5500. Breeders may also be owners. As with owners, they may bet, but they don't BREED a dog to bet on it) Trainers (motivated by the desire to win. They may also be owners and breeders. And as with them, they may bet but they don't TRAIN a dog to bet on it) Punters (motivated by the desire to win money by betting) It costs around $20,000 to get a litter of pups to break in stage. The owner pays this. The owner also pays for the pups to be broken in. Most trainers will train a race dog for a 50/50 split of prizemoney (there are no ongoing fees for the owners). Thanks - that helps - where does the prize money come from? Wish you would read the reports that I provided you with links to in my post a couple of days ago, there is a wealth of info in these reports. Excerpts from 1st Report in links I provided in my post a couple of days ago:

100% agree and people would still bet on the outcome and dogs would still be disposed of if they didn't win and people would still breed trying to find "the one" So just to be clear, you think that the breed is sustainable beyond the current racing industry? Beyond the sustainability of the breed, there is is nothing to suggest (is there?) that if their was an amateur sport, about 16000 dogs would be bred per year, upwards of 12000 would be killed per year. Breeders would not be able to command anywhere near the money for a good dog that they can now, mating fees would decline tremendously, there wouldn't be firms specialising in greyhound transport, supplements, vet care, er, disposal etc, etc. And their wouldn't be syndicates either. Not as we currently know it, no. I don't think dogs would be bred in the same numbers but I think the welfare of the dogs (and bait animals) would be far worse. The idea that money is a only incentive for people is absurd and only makes it harder to have sensible conversations about likely outcomes for any particular course of action. Typo Money is a powerful incentive - that much is obvious. There simply will not be 16000 dogs whelped every year if there are very few buyers. Live baiting is said to be widespread now. and More than 12000 are killed every year in the prime of their lives. The condition that some dogs are found in and subsequently rescued in large numbers is atrocious. If the numbers whelped every year fall to sub 1000 year, I am not sure how you think the welfare of Greyhounds overall could be worse than it is now. There is no evidence from overseas where the greyhound industry has already been banned to support a view that greyhounds (or bait animals) become worse off after the industry is banned. Once again, money is not the answer. You can take money away and people will still breed them and compete with them. Without the oversight that the money brings, the welfare of those dogs would almost certainly be compromised. You can't compare Australia to other countries because Australia isn't those countries and our culture is different. There are already people who use sighthounds here to illegally course and if you created a huge stream of people who could no longer take part in a sport they enjoyed legally, some would undoubtedly drift into the illegal version of it. As for this.. You really have no idea, do you? Yes you can compare Australia to other countries with regards to the Greyhound Racing Industry as there are many parallels in the issues that beset this industry in the countries, including Australia, where greyhound racing is operating. Even if the industry went underground if shutdown, it will not be run on the scale it is currently. The industry is already in decline and opposition to this industry is growing louder, so the winds of change are blowing head-on towards this industry and I believe it is only a matter of time before it ceases to exist. Whether that is through govt legislation or becoming financially unviable with govts no longer willing to prop it up, remains to be seen. In the meantime thousands of greyhounds will continue to suffer and be killed en-masse each year this industry continues operating.

Separate walks and take your older dog out first as this may help keep him calm and relaxed when you are out with your other dog as and and this will give both dogs some one on one time with you and you can walk the pace and distance to suit their age and energy levels. I always walked my seniors on their own and loved the one on one time I had with them and quite often in the warmer months at some of the parks I would take them to, I would find a nice shady spot normally under a tree with lots of soft grass and sit down on the grass with them to give them a rest and spend some extra time with them and just give them lots of cuddles and belly rubs and pats and we would both watch the world go by. I really miss those times with my seniors

Because the law will say they need to be responsible and each dog will have a paper trail. But how will that stop owners opting to have the dog killed ? Because the law could state that they need to rehome their dog rather than op to euth their dog. I'm not naive enough to believe that all will adhere to the law but if they realise that there are severe consequences that will be dished out .i.e. if it costs a lot more to not obey the law than to foot the bill of looking after that dog until it is rehomed and the chances of them being monitored and caught are also in place, it will stop the majority. How will that work as currently any dog owner can opt to have their dog euthanised, irrespective of their age, health, condition or breed, so I cannot see how they can make a law to make it illegal for just greyhounds to be euthanised. If they did make this law you are proposing, how on earth will be it monitored and policed, given estimates of say 15,000 - 18,000 greyhounds are born each year into the industry. The current rules and regulations are not being enforced, so I cannot see any new ones being enforced. The greyhound racing industry will just carry on as they have for many years with financial considerations of the industry being placed ahead of the welfare of the greyhounds. With regards to removing the gambling/betting from the industry and running the industry as a hobby/sport mentioned in some posts, how will this work given the industry revolves around gambling and betting with billions of dollars involved annually and propped up by the state governments as millions of dollars are poured into government coffers from greyound racing annually. The owners that race their greyhounds as a "hobby/sport" are in the minority and may only own one or a couple of greyhounds and are small fish in a big pond of big players who are responsible for breeding and killing thousands of greyhounds each year. The old argument for keeping the industry going to avoid thousands of greyhounds being killed if the industry were to be shutdown, needs to be questioned as currently thousands are being killed each year anyway and extremely low numbers are being rehomed , so how many of the 15,000-18,000 greyhounds born each year in this industry are actually surviving anyway, to justify keeping the industry going? How do you know owners who do this as a hobby are in the minority/ Where are the stats? When you say the industry is propped up by state government - how? How do individual owners and trainer become rewarded by the state government for breeding and training and racing these dogs? I genuinely dont know these things but it would seem to me the big money would be in the dollars they can ask for stud fees and puppies out of certain sire's and dams or those which have a proven track record - with some prize money chucked in - but where does the prize money come from - is it truly the state governments? Breeding incentives, infrastructure, events grants, appearance fees and tax breaks are the types of taxpayer-funded support the industry receives from the various state govts. To get some insight into the industry and issues in NSW, you should have a read of a couple of detailed reports produced last year in NSW in Mar 2014 and Oct 2014 as a result of the 2013 Inquiry into Greyhound Racing in NSW conducted by the Legislative Council Select Committee on Greyhound Racing in NSW. Below are links to the reports and the NSW Govt response to the first report. The NSW Govt response to the 2nd report is due this month, but will probably be impacted by the recently established Special Commission of Inquiry into Greyhound Racing in NSW which has been given the same wide-ranging powers as a royal commission and will be conducted by Justice Michael McHugh and the Commissioner will be supported in the Inquiry by a reference group consisting of his existing review panel members; CEO of RSPCA NSW Steve Coleman; Assistant Commissioner Mark Jenkins – Commander State Crime Command, NSW Police Force; Chair of the Greyhound Racing Industry Consultation Group Ron Arnold; and the interim CEO of Greyhound Racing NSW, Paul Newson and Stephen Rushton SC has been appointed Counsel Assisting the Inquiry. This Special Commission of Inquiry is as a result of the the live baiting scandal and was initially only going to be an inquiry to investigate live baiting, but its powers have been expanded to cover the entire greyhound industry in NSW. The commission of inquiry will report by 30 September with draft recommendations due on 30 June. 1st Report of Inquiry into Greyhound Racing in NSW and Govt Response 2nd Report of Inquiry into Greyhound Racing Industry in NSW As outlined in the reports, the industry in NSW is declining and facing a financial crisis and may be unstainable with its current structure and sources of revenue. It will require govt intervention to secure the future viability of the industry in NSW and with the fallout from the live baiting scandal and other greyhound issues that have garnered the spotlight since the live baiting program aired, the NSW govt may choose not to intervene and let the industry just fade away over time. No doubt the findings of the current Special Commission of Inquiry will determine the future of greyhound racing in NSW. From reading numerous articles and a fairly detailed report on the greyhound racing industry in the U.S., there are many parallels of what happened in the U.S. and what is happening in Australia and I actually think that Australia will follow in the U.S. footsteps as they have in most dog things years behind, with the greyhound industry shutting down State by State and not all necessarily by introducing govt legislation. Some shutdowns will be due to the decline in the industry making it unviable and govts no longer willing to prop it up due to the changing community expectations with increased public awareness of what is happening in this awful industry due to increased media coverage. As outlined above, the industry in NSW is already in a financial crisis and the current Special Commission of Inquiry is the 2nd major inquiry into the industry in NSW in 2 years, so hopefully this will galvanise NSW govt into leading the way by shutting down the industry either through legislation or not intervening to secure the future viability of the industry in NSW. U.S. greyhound racing went into decline and tracks closed down across the country as they were unviable and state govt legislation was successfully introduced in a number of states where greyhound racing is now illegal in 39 states, and in 4 states, all dog tracks have closed or ceased live racing, but commercial greyhound racing is still legal and there are 7 states where commercial greyhound racing is legal and operational and state racing commissions are in place in 6 of the 7 operational states to regulate and oversee greyhound racing.