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It is part of the warning on the packet/leaflet contained within the packet.. The product is deadly to cats. Well there you go! Georgie didn't apply it to her cat but it did come into contact. Silly move on her part if it is a warning on the packet! I think from memory, there is a bit on the packaging warning to keep wrapper, packaging etc away from cats and to wash your hands thoroughly after applying the product to the dog if you have cats. I think also on the leaflet/packaging (it has been a while since I have read it) saying to keep cats away from the dog for a proscribed period of time. I know of MANY places who sell it, either ask/tell the purchaser if 1) they have a cat/s and 2) that it is deadly to cats. I just looked up a couple of one line vet places.. Two did not have warnings.. but a third one did: Just goes to show... Read the label!

It is part of the warning on the packet/leaflet contained within the packet.. The product is deadly to cats. One problem I had with advantix in particular is it causes "burns" on where it is applied to the dog. Even despite parting the hair and applying to the skin. I have found the undercoat soaks up the oily product and sits as a layer ontop of the skin. Moisture then gets under this and causes a sore.. I telephoned Bayer and told them my experience. They told me the dog had a hot spot. The dogs never have had hot spots. Believe me, I know what they look like and have worked around them with clients. The "hot spots" only occurred when I used Advantix and under where I applied the product.

Preventic collars or Advantix are OK. We live in a very bad area for ticks. I have had two on me in the last week...both at the nymph stage, but the spot where they were will itch like mad for a week. I have used both Asvantix and the Preventic collars on the dogs. A friends Keeshund had two ticks and was very sick with both...until she started using the Preventic collar and he never got another tick. Nothing however is a 100% surety....so check your dogs every day, without fail. Believe me.. there are twice daily checks when I lived at Samford myself and when I go back there now to visit the folks. Even on Proban, they are checked twice daily. I know someone who used the Preventic collars and found about 4 ticks right underneath the collar. Another BC breeder whom I know is on the ball. I know others up here who have used Advantix and Frontline and had absolutely no success. My vet locally who is in middle of Tick area, even recommends to NOT use top spots in favour of Proban due to effectiveness. They also have quite a number of dogs who are dipped come in with Tick Paralysis. So yes I know no product is not 100%. For me Proban offers teh most effective safety net for ticks. I have had two dogs once down the vet once on drips. One was a 10 week puppy (two young for proban). $1000 later... Proban it is.. It i more expensive than the top spots and collars, but it is still cheaper than a dog on a drip at the vet.

THanks Sheena. Do you know how long this is going to be?? Is it just temporary or a long term thing? My guys are on Proban as it is the only product with the best safety margin for paralysis ticks. Top spots and collars are useless as *** on a bull.

Last weekend we were still getting ticks at my folks property in Samford, on the outskirts of Brisbane. So yes.. Ticks are still a problem. We pulled about 30 off each dog. Some were paralysis and some were scrub. They are baby and very tiny. If you are going camping up this way, I would recommend tick protection. Better safe than sorry

There's the Animal Management Act (Cats and Dogs) 2008 (OR relevant state legislation) Animal Management Regulation Local law (relelvant to your local council) The local law is generally found on your local council's website....

I joined way too long ago to really remember why I joined. Seemed like a good thing to do at the time. It used to be a good forum. Occassionally it is still a good forum.

I use pull up nappies... Cut a hole in them for the tail....

To a point. First pick is always mine. The first person/family to put a deposit has first pick of remaining puppies (providing there are not special orders etc). Then again it is to a point. If the puppy they pick is not suited to their lifestyle then I will steer them towards one that is. I work with a puppy buyers to match puppy to family. If I don't have a puppy suitable, I won't sell the puppy to that family. If I don't feel comfortable about the person/family wanting one of my puppies, then I won't sell them one of my pups. I don't believe in going "This is your puppy" (well at least so bluntly). They need to feel like they made a choice.

It is no different to some properties having an electic gate at the front of their property, padlocked gates or any other means of preventing "free access" to the front door. Depending on the fencing of the yard, it may be in breach of a local law of adequate fencing - especially if there is not "adequate" fencing to contain the dog. If there is adequate fencing, then there is no real reason to say it is not illegal (so long as food, water and shelter is provided).

I voted special licence. No dog should be bred for unprovoked attacks on anyone or thing. I can see the possible need for certain traits for working dogs such as those used in AFP or military. But then those dogs are trained properly and under strict rules/conditions and are generally not in the hands of idiots. After seeing an ad the other week for purebred Pittys... YOu just have to wonder what the authorities are really doing about breeding and banned breeds as it is.

Sorry to hear of your loss Julie. Always bad to hear of dogs taken by bait. I know where I used to live, we occassionally rat sacked the Stables. Some 6 months after we had ANY bait down.. A puppy once found a few pellets and needed to rush to the vet. We used to count out the pellets into a bottle lid. The dogs were never allowed down the stables while there were baits around. We did rat patrols twice daily. What we did find was the rats/mice took the pellets back to the nest. They did not eat them all where we put then (under pallets of hay/ cupboards etc). We think the pup found one of these pellets and that was what caused him to vomit and bleed.

I know Ipswich does have SOME CCCQ discounts. But the policy reads only if you have a kennel prefix with CCCQ and you apply for their "breeders permit"... We recently got a new staff member from Logan, and I know the fencing requirements are much harsher than what is in Brisabne/Ipswich. Something about if the dog is over 3kg, it has to be 6 foot?? Don't quote me on that one.. Check more about just the fees. It's the other laws that generally get you as much as anything.. hereas we are adequate to keep the dog enclosed.. so technically. if a 3 foot fence is keeping in a rotty.. then it's adequate.

Just don't move into Ipswich Council... They have some of the worst dog laws. I believe Loagan can be pretty harsh too. Best thing is to look on Brisbane, Moreton Bay Regional, Logan and Ipswich councils websites for their animal laws. You are only allowed 2 dogs unles you get a property over 2000 sq m. You have to register first two dogs.. then apply for permit to keep more at $280. You also have to door every house within 100m from all four boundaries.. If you get 3 objections, permit (and fee) denied and non refunded. You are only allowed to have the extra dogs there for 14 days.. if permit is denied.. you have to get rid of extra dogs. I live in Brisbane City.. Pretty much what others have said.. It will depend somewhat on property size.. but pretty much hand over your $200 (including application fee) and you get a permit in about a month's time. YOu can also have the "3rd dog" etc present while you are waiting for an answer. I also have a permit attached to my folks place in moreton bay council.. You do get inspected (or used to at least) when you apply and possibly then yearly to make sure you keep your food contained properly and dispose of faeces etc

I forget how many times I see on Petlink and similar websites "Parents Registered CCC".... A discreet email to the person finds the animals are on Limit.. No matter where you go... someone is going to do the wrong thing.. Short of desexing prior to going at 8-12 weeks.. it is a risk a breeder takes. At least with Limit.. they cannot register any resulting puppies. One the flipside.. if the dog DOES grow into a good specimen, and the puppy owners are serious about doing it RIGHT.. it can be upgraded to Main.

Having a collie breed.. I don't use products with Ivemectin.. I know Heartgard is supposed to be ok for collies.. but prefer not to take the risk. I use Interceptor and Comfortis.. Found Spectrum to be useless for fleas..Likewise all the top spots. We are still finding ticks on the dogs... so they are also on proban every second day...

Budgiew, The breed club may already be aware of it.. As with the breeder.. When a rehoming is going on.. everyone tends to advertise.. The more places you advertise, the better chance someone will see it and respond. I have helped rehome dogs not bred by me as contacts I have may differ from the breeder/owner. At the end of the day.. As long as a good home is found for the animal, then it is a win/win situation no matter where it is advertised. I have noticed of late advertising other general stuff, Gumtree is getting to be a good place to advertise... I have sold more things through gumtree, than through some other websites. Even as far as pedigree animals are concerned.. just because the BYB's may advertise somewhere, does not mean it is not a good place to advertise a pedigree animal. If the website is getting the hits.. it increases the chances of people seeing the animal and choosing a pedigre animal compared to a BYB. Rehoming an older pup is always going to be more difficult. People are naturally going to ask themselves "what is wrong with it".. "does it chew everything, dig, escape, bark" and would they be able to handle any of the "bad" habits it has developed along the way. A 9 month old pup has lost its cute and fluffy look.. And while it may be a perfectly behaved animal, people will automatically think there is something wrong with it because of its age.

My lappie definitely isn't a jowley breed, but she gets awfully car sick and slobbers the entire car ride. The head trainer at obedience has taken to calling her dribble face because he one day happened to look in the car window as we got there and saw her with a face full of dribble. What sprang to mind is at shows.. the newfy and some of your other heavy breeds.. the owners running after them with towels and facewashers, constantly wiping the slobber off their jowels.. I used to have a vizla that suffered car sickness and nervousness.. she used to produce two constand shoe strings of drool... :eek

Just to reply to this, I don't think it is only yobbos that are the problem. The dog that is in its yard all day isn't going to attack my dogs. I am far more nervous of well meaning owners who think all dogs are the same and that their dog will automatically want to play with other dogs. The staffy-types at my local park that get into trouble are these ones. The ones that have cluey owners that actually interact with their dog away from the packs seem to stay out of trouble. At my local park.. there have been issues with Staffy's, standard poodles, mini poodles, shepherds, pointers, other small dogs, border collies, cross bred mutts.. just about every breed you can imagine down there.. The dog that stays in the yard all day.. may not attack your dog while it stays IN its yard.... It's when it gets out whether by design of the owner or itself.. A poorly socialised dog in the hands of a poor uneducated owner is the problem no matter the breed. There are some very rough staffy owners around my area....Some of the dogs themselves are nice depsite having crappy owners..It is a credit to whoever bred a few of these dogs for breeding decent temperaments... As an AMO.. I have seen in some areas.. certain breeds attract certain "stereotypes" and people...

The breeder may not have the room or facility at THIS time to take a dog back. They may also be happy for the dog owner to try to rehome the dog first, and if they cannot find a home, THEN take it back.. As a breeder, I would like to be TOLD at least a person is having a problem keeping one of my pups.. I will take pups back so am not quibbling that part. But fact is, many breeders are at numbers themselves, and may not be able to physically take a dog back for any length of time. Depending on the reason for re-homing, it could be best for the pup to stay where it is for the time being.. However, if a puppy buyer can say to me, "I have found a beautiful home for Fido" I would be over the moon.. They have recognised an issue, and dealt with it responsibly, rather than dumping the problem on the RSPCA or another welfare organisation or the breeder.. If the breeder is interstate, it may be too expensive/unnecessary to return it to the breeder when a good local home can be found. Also maybe less stressful for the animal if a home is found locally. Someone has to pay for the airfare back to the breeder... I am not saying as a breeder or this breeder is being irresponsible by not taking the pup back.. but there may be more behind the up front ad that you do not know.

SWF - Small white fluffies.... Bad tempered little crits.. When I was a groomer.. I was bitten more by these than any other breed..Well apart from Pomms.. Many joe public with small dogs do not think they need to take them out and socialise them, and when they do, they get all scared and defensive.. I went touring a year or so with 4 BC's.. One 8 week, one 12 week and two adults in a dog trailer.. some parks we stayed at, they allowed one SWF... but you heard more from their ONE SWF than you did from 4 border collies??? It is not so much the breed.. but just the ignorants who keep a vast majaority of them.. Why people think SWF's are perfect dogs for small houses/flats.. they yap and yap and yap... Staffy's: dont mind the breed. It is a shame that they can attract the wrong owners.. the yobbos who believe a dog needs to be tied up outside and thrown a bowl of food once a day.. and kicked at least twice a day.. Personally I am not fond of Jowley breeds.. but that is just the slobber.. not so much breed bias.

I get an email like that.. It goes to the lovely folder called "Junk". If you read it through again, you can pick up the language converter or something similar used as the grammar and wording is not written where English is a native tongue. I have had very similar ones sent to me before.. Most tend to come out of Asia region. Although I did have one come from South Australia.. conveniently, they were working off shore and did not have a phone number where I could call them... Anyone who tells me in a first email, " I can collect through shipping company" smacks of dealer or scam

Think it depends on what the itching is caused by. If allergy to something internal.. Nothing will really stop it... May relieve symptoms. Coal tar shampoo can also be good for itchy skin. Does not smell pretty.

I agree. Sporting dogs need to have the best conformation as well. It is just as important as a show dog and conformation, if not more so. My pick bitch went to an agility home. She had good conformation and the drive that she needed to go into a performance home. Temperament wise (with reference to drive), she would not have well adapted to a life of a standard pet home. If she had a fault.. it was her colour, here in Australia it is not recognised, so technically cannot be bred. The owner of the dog, wanted it desexed as soon as possible to avoid limiting training/competing time due to seasons. If the dog was a correct colour, and proved her worth in the sporting field, she would have had a litter to continue the line before being desexed to continue her sporting career. This is at cross-roads to what a breeder wants to continue the line. This is why males are better placed in sporting homes. If only for the ability to compete/train all year round. I see too many breeders who do breed for sporting/performance, not paying a great consideration to conformation. It is great to choose your breeding on performance ability. But if you do not pay careful attention to structure, then it will not matter how good the temperament is if the dog keeps breaking down due to injury as a result of poor conformation. Those who do breed for performance, should be breeding to the standard as well. Interpretation of the standard is the problem. What one person thinks it should mean can differ greatly to someone else. Showing, is becoming harder and harder with finding good fair judges who will judge the dog and not the person on the end of the lead. Too often you hear comments like "Don't bother with that judge as they are a XXXX favourite judge." I will agree with Dancinbcs with why so many of us in our breed why so many are sold on Limit or Co-own. Too many breeders have been badly bitten by new breeders coming into the breed wishing to make a quick buck with selling coloured dogs for inflated high prices. No care is taken to careful breeding plans, so long as the dog produces colour. The problem then comes, where if you let your dog go to a new breeder and they then in turn do the wrong turn, you are spurned by other breeders down the track when you want to breed a litter. Even worse if you sell a dog to a new breeder and they in turn do the wrong thing. Forget about ever using a good dog ever again. I have a bitch here who I bought from a breeder who is now suspended... She has some lovely qualities, and an impeccable pedigree. I USED to be friends with the breeder until the wrong thing was done.... Try finding a suitable stud without large hoops to jump through!!! People will not let their dogs go to her because of her pedigree and my PREVIOUS association with the breeder. The bitch is not shown due to her prefix and breed politics.

Steve. When I got my first purebred. It was on Mains. I was not interested in breeding, and it was desexed in due course. My second dog, I kinda thought about it, showed her.. and went no.. I was sold a dupe (temperament) and desexed her. Likewise for my third bitch, and looking back and the cancer she developed at the tender age of 5, I am glad I never bred her. Despite being a damn good obedience dog. Husbandry to me, is common sense. I keep a clean (not sterile) household. I grew up on a small crop/dairy, so knew basic husbandry from that. To me, if you keep animals, you keep them properly. If you breed, then you do the right thing. CCC or legislation be dammned.. you do the right thing. It is common sense. More in my mind now due to Litigation if you breed a problem as has seen in my breed already. For the Contract/Breeders Term Question: I have done this once on the last litter where I stashed a female. I charged full price for my puppy. IF I use it in breeding, I PAY for health tests as if the dog stayed here, it would be my expense anyway. I only REALLY ask they keep the dog as if they were keeping any pet.. Regular vacinations, worming, general vet care as needed - Normal pet ownership stuff. Anything associated with breeding is my expense. (As if would be if I owned the dog). I have also in fairness to them, put a limit on how long the dog MUST be retained whole. I will assess the dog around 18 months. If still looking good, then I will health test and breed her sometime in the next 12 months (season dependant). I am more than happy for them to keep the dog there during pregnancy with her coming back to me 2 weeks prior to whelping. She will whelp here and stay here with me for at leat the first 10 days (incase there is a problem). I am happy then with guidance, for them to go back there and pay raising costs of the litter. I would of course prefer to keep them here, but if they REALLY want their family member back.. then I am happy enough to work with them. As "THANKS" to holding the bitch for me for this time, I have agreed to either refund purchase price of bitch or givem them a puppy from the litter. They will get their dog back as well. THe only reason I charge full price up front.. If in 6 months or so, they desex the dog.. They have paid for their pet and got their pet. NO one is out of pocket. Personally. I think co-own contracts need to be fair.. No double dipping by the breder. IF the dog is THAT THAT important, then find a way to keep it yourself! I advise any puppy buyer who contacts me about a puppy.. to make sure what ever contract a breeder gives them, to make sure they are happy with the conditions before going ahead. If not.. find another breeder.