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How is the husky owner not being a responsible owner? Whilst there are benefits for desexing, not intending to breed (or having irresponsible thieving neighbours) should not be a reason to desex. The woman said she would agree to breed if she was asked. This woman's just bitter because the owner of the bitch had puppies, and she didn't get any MONEY for it. She doesn't care about any of the other issues surronding this. I get she's upset, but I think when you look at this, it's just the MONEY she is worried about.

That's amazing, I particularly like the part about the show dog ticket for the train!

On the Catholic with a family issue, I saw on the US news channel that Catholic priests are now allowed to marry and have families. Hope they find someone, he sounds like he really loves the dog if he is prepared to pay expenses for a dog that he may give away if the family is too attached in 2 years time. Wish I knew someone.

Hi Everyone, hoping some one here can help - one of my dogs has quite moist ears - the fluid is almost clear and the ear doesn't smell - but they are intermittently scratching the ear, and when I try to clean it, it seems to annoy the dog. He normally does not have an issue with me cleaning his ears, and is quite stoic about things. When I put something in the ear to clean it, even a little way, it comes out soaked, and most of the time completely clear, but sometimes has a slight brown tinge to it. I'm not sure what to do - I have been using Epi-Optic to try and dry the ear, but it doesn't seem to be helping, and Im actually concerned it might of made it worse. There is no wax build up at all, and as I said the ear does not smell at all. The ear doesn't appear any different to the opposite one, which he is not concerned about me cleaning at all. Should I just take him to the vet, or does anyone have any suggestions about what may be wrong? Another question, what do you guys use to clean the ears when they are a bit wet. The idea of putting a liquid in an ear to dry it seems a bit odd to me, but that is what our vet told us to use, and maybe I don't understand. I have heard of powders that dry the ear, but cannot find them anywhere for sale. What do you guys do.......... Edited to add: this is just something that has started in the last 4-6 days.

Hi Everyone, hoping some one here can help - one of my dogs has quite moist ears - the fluid is almost clear and the ear doesn't smell - but they are intermittently scratching the ear, and when I try to clean it, it seems to annoy the dog. He normally does not have an issue with me cleaning his ears, and is quite stoic about things. When I put something in the ear to clean it, even a little way, it comes out soaked, and most of the time completely clear, but sometimes has a slight brown tinge to it. I'm not sure what to do - I have been using Epi-Optic to try and dry the ear, but it doesn't seem to be helping, and Im actually concerned it might of made it worse. There is no wax build up at all, and as I said the ear does not smell at all. The ear doesn't appear any different to the opposite one, which he is not concerned about me cleaning at all. Should I just take him to the vet, or does anyone have any suggestions about what may be wrong? Another question, what do you guys use to clean the ears when they are a bit wet. The idea of putting a liquid in an ear to dry it seems a bit odd to me, but that is what our vet told us to use, and maybe I don't understand. I have heard of powders that dry the ear, but cannot find them anywhere for sale. What do you guys do..........

I am completely confused now! So you have a pedigree paper with the pup's sire and dam's name on it, but the D.O.B is wrong? How far off is the date of birth, and what is the name of the dog on the pedigree piece of paper? Is it your pup's name up the top or not. If it is not, the pup's name, then it is obviously a sibling's pedigree. Perhaps the breeder has given you this piece of paper, so you know the details of the pup while you are waiting for the official papers to arrive. Pedigree papers can take a fair while to arrive, so it could just be that, and the breeder is providing you with as much info as they can before they arrive. What were the terms you bought the pup on? If they are not already on a limited registration there is nothing you can do to make them 'purebred', as others above have pointed out.

Thank you all for your replies!!!

Thank you for the warning, I must admit, Im not really good at watching my stuff at shows, once i get into a conversation, or in the ring, etc, as I didn't really think anyone there would stoop to such a level.

Yuck!!! I would of died!!!

When I say 'major structural fault' I mean something like Hip displaysia or patella luxation, not a slight under angulation, or a hock that's not quite let down enough. I mean major things!!!!!! Not slightly cowhocked, not a slight dip in topline, MAJOR things, like at graded patella luxation, or Hip Displaysia, something that greatly affects not only the show quality movement, but also the dogs general well being. I have seen and heard of all these situations, and Im just wondering what the general consensus is out there. Please be honest, , I don't want to judge, I just want to see what the general consensus in the dog world is at the moment. Am not attacking or criticizing ANYONE, am just wondering what is really happening. Have not put in show ring or breeders community to get a wider range of responses.

No, and in our council area its illegal. Still doesn't stop people though, the footpaths, and sidewalks are littered with the stuff. The council occassionally sends a truck out and they do on the spot fining, but I ALWAYS pick up my dog's waste, even though I might find it uncomfortable to carry back home, or back to a bin if we are in a remote area. I hate walking along with the dogs, and the dogs stopping to smell it, for some reason they love all those scents!!!! (no accounting for taste lol) I especially dislike it at the beach or in the bush, it ruins the moment for me. And I really dislike picking it up at showgrounds, actually I dislike picking up another person's dogs waste full stop. Once we were at a show, and had the misfortune to park right next to three or four different dogs poo. As most exhibitors are aware parking is mostly where you can get it, so rather than my dogs and us all walk through it, we picked it up. So there we were, just arrived at a showground, 6AM in the morning, picking up poo that didn't belong to me, some of it was absolutely rank, and was not as firm as it should be. I really feel for council workers in parks, cleaners in showgrounds, beach cleaners and anyone that has to do it for a living, when it is just SO easy to take a bag with you, and pick up your own.

Yes just not the seeds or the core, mine love it!!!

It doesn't matter how much you love this bitch and how good her temperament may be, she may not have the conformation to be a brood bitch. Why would you de sex on vets say so when the vet may not be fully qualified to diagnose this condition. Maybe if you told us how this bitch has been fed we may be able to help you more as diet plays a big part in the bone development. :) You can't show her in neuter class!!!! She has a fault that without repair would be disqualifyable. That means that you have surgically altered the dog to make it be able to show, against the rules and ethically wrong. Im really sorry for you, you are going to have to come to the same realisation that we did with our bitch that had the same problems. She too was bought as a foundation bitch, and we were devastated when it occured, but you have to come to terms with the fact that her show career no matter what class is OVER, as is breeding her, and as you are getting her desexed you are being responsible and realise this. We have known of situations where a responsible breeder has replaced dogs that have the same issues, and your breeder may do the same, and give you the chance of your breeding and showing dreams, but with this bitch its game over. I'm only new to showing - is it the part in the Diseases and Abnomalities (Section 17 in the Dogs NSW rules on shows) that says "normal development" that this is covered under? (where you mentioned it is against the rules) It explicitly talks about contagious diseases but nothing like this. Does this mean that every exhibitor should be able to produce a certificate that the dog is clear if it is common in the breed? I am actually a little confused as well. Since I have seen the SC's bitch and she is unsymptomatic so she can certainly be shown without any surgical alteration and still be sound. SC I am guessing Tibby thought that to be have a sound dog you would have to operate to correct it and that you would then show which I think there is a rule about. I am totally confused now, if the dog is unsymptomatic, and sound then she does not have luxating patella's - because there is no symptomatic free when it comes to patella luxation. there are two types: one where the kneecap pops out and does not return to the groove, and another where it pops in and out repeatedly, and the joint does return to the groove intermittently. these can be graded for severity. If the dog's kneecap is not popping out at all then it isn't a luxating patella. But if the diagnosis is correct, this is a SEVERE structural fault in a dog, affecting the soundness of the dog so therefore should not in any judges opinion to 'I am clearly in the opinion that this dog is of outstanding merit, as to be worthy to qualify for the title of champion' (read off my dog's cc certificates) so therefore a dog with a severe structural fault should not be competeting for that title. As for rules regarding showing you cannot show a dog that has been permenantly altered for the show ring, with the exclusion of the neutering in the neuter class obviously. For the dog to move soundly it would need surgical intervention of some kind to hold its joint in place. This would be like showing a monorchid dog with an implant. Or a HD dog being shown with no femoral head after surgery for HD. You have permanently altered the structure of the dog, which is cheating, no matter what way you put it. Im sorry for the OP, I have been in the situation, and I hope a specialist can draw more light on the situation in regards to diagnosis, and treatment, and I hope the breeder is responsible and does what she feels is the right thing by her buyers in a horrible situation like this. For her sake I hope the vet, as quite often in these circumstances, is WRONG, and all this discussion is for nothing!!! If the dog truly is unsymptomatic, and moves correctly, then I would highly doubt the diagnosis given by the vet. A kneecap does not pop in and out without some affect on movement. Most commonly the dog hops and cannot straighten the leg. Sometimes it only shows as crabbing, which we all know can be caused by a variety of other reasons. To the OP, and the genetic mode of inheritance, and cause: Patella luxation can be caused by a trauma, but that usually only occurs in one leg. It can also be caused by excessive weight. As for the breeder's knowledge, there is no genetic testing, so if she have no symptoms in the dogs she owns, then this will be as big a shock to her as it is to you. Only 25% of the affected dogs puppies are carriers, and they don't show ANY symptoms at all. Patella's are known as autosomal so the exact mode of transmission is still a mystery. It could be something WAAAY back as I have said before, but if it is both kneecaps, it most likely is genetic, but that doesn't mean the breeder is an evil, irresponsible, person. It may be the first puppy that she is aware of. If your really keen on showing the dog, the only way to do it, is to keep the dog surgically free of changes to its joints, as there are no rules about showing an unsound dog with poor movement, but most judges would be able to pick up that something is not right, (hopefully!!!) and it may be an exercise in futilty. But at this stage, you are probably more in shock, and more concerned for the well being of your dog, it must be so painful to have your knee cap sliding around falling in and out of a joint - but I know with our girl, it hardly bothered her, she still ran with the others, went for walks, jumped on beds and lounges, etc, until diagnosis was eventually made, and she was shown lightly beforehand, but we always had issues with her movement. Dogs are so much tougher than us, but I know that my kneecap sliding in and out of my joint would be excruiciating. Once our girls diagnosis was made, once the shock wore off, I researched, and researched for myself, visited different vets and specialists, had her undertake swimming and hydrotherapy and above all changed her diet, and got weight off her. My priority was the dogs, as Im sure yours is. She has never shown again, is desexed, but will ALWAYS have a home with us. She has become a therapy dog, and although it was devastating losing a brood bitch that was structually excellent despite her knees collapsing, she is still an assest to our home. Our breeder was more than helpful, sympathetic, and responsible in dealing with the situation, as Im sure yours will be.

It doesn't matter how much you love this bitch and how good her temperament may be, she may not have the conformation to be a brood bitch. Why would you de sex on vets say so when the vet may not be fully qualified to diagnose this condition. Maybe if you told us how this bitch has been fed we may be able to help you more as diet plays a big part in the bone development. :) You can't show her in neuter class!!!! She has a fault that without repair would be disqualifyable. That means that you have surgically altered the dog to make it be able to show, against the rules and ethically wrong. Im really sorry for you, you are going to have to come to the same realisation that we did with our bitch that had the same problems. She too was bought as a foundation bitch, and we were devastated when it occured, but you have to come to terms with the fact that her show career no matter what class is OVER, as is breeding her, and as you are getting her desexed you are being responsible and realise this. We have known of situations where a responsible breeder has replaced dogs that have the same issues, and your breeder may do the same, and give you the chance of your breeding and showing dreams, but with this bitch its game over. I'm only new to showing - is it the part in the Diseases and Abnomalities (Section 17 in the Dogs NSW rules on shows) that says "normal development" that this is covered under? (where you mentioned it is against the rules) It explicitly talks about contagious diseases but nothing like this. Does this mean that every exhibitor should be able to produce a certificate that the dog is clear if it is common in the breed? I am actually a little confused as well. Since I have seen the SC's bitch and she is unsymptomatic so she can certainly be shown without any surgical alteration and still be sound. SC I am guessing Tibby thought that to be have a sound dog you would have to operate to correct it and that you would then show which I think there is a rule about. I am totally confused now, if the dog is unsymptomatic, and sound then she does not have luxating patella's - because there is no symptomatic free when it comes to patella luxation. there are two types: one where the kneecap pops out and does not return to the groove, and another where it pops in and out repeatedly, and the joint does return to the groove intermittently. these can be graded for severity. If the dog's kneecap is not popping out at all then it isn't a luxating patella. But if the diagnosis is correct, this is a SEVERE structural fault in a dog, affecting the soundness of the dog so therefore should not in any judges opinion to 'I am clearly in the opinion that this dog is of outstanding merit, as to be worthy to qualify for the title of champion' (read off my dog's cc certificates) so therefore a dog with a severe structural fault should not be competeting for that title. As for rules regarding showing you cannot show a dog that has been permenantly altered for the show ring, with the exclusion of the neutering in the neuter class obviously. For the dog to move soundly it would need surgical intervention of some kind to hold its joint in place. This would be like showing a monorchid dog with an implant. Or a HD dog being shown with no femoral head after surgery for HD. You have permanently altered the structure of the dog, which is cheating, no matter what way you put it. Im sorry for the OP, I have been in the situation, and I hope a specialist can draw more light on the situation in regards to diagnosis, and treatment, and I hope the breeder is responsible and does what she feels is the right thing by her buyers in a horrible situation like this. For her sake I hope the vet, as quite often in these circumstances, is WRONG, and all this discussion is for nothing!!! If the dog truly is unsymptomatic, and moves correctly, then I would highly doubt the diagnosis given by the vet. A kneecap does not pop in and out without some affect on movement. Most commonly the dog hops and cannot straighten the leg. Sometimes it only shows as crabbing, which we all know can be caused by a variety of other reasons. To the OP, and the genetic mode of inheritance, and cause: Patella luxation can be caused by a trauma, but that usually only occurs in one leg. It can also be caused by excessive weight. As for the breeder's knowledge, there is no genetic testing, so if she have no symptoms in the dogs she owns, then this will be as big a shock to her as it is to you. Only 25% of the affected dogs puppies are carriers, and they don't show ANY symptoms at all. Patella's are known as autosomal so the exact mode of transmission is still a mystery. It could be something WAAAY back as I have said before, but if it is both kneecaps, it most likely is genetic, but that doesn't mean the breeder is an evil, irresponsible, person. It may be the first puppy that she is aware of.

It doesn't matter how much you love this bitch and how good her temperament may be, she may not have the conformation to be a brood bitch. Why would you de sex on vets say so when the vet may not be fully qualified to diagnose this condition. Maybe if you told us how this bitch has been fed we may be able to help you more as diet plays a big part in the bone development. :) You can't show her in neuter class!!!! She has a fault that without repair would be disqualifyable. That means that you have surgically altered the dog to make it be able to show, against the rules and ethically wrong. Im really sorry for you, you are going to have to come to the same realisation that we did with our bitch that had the same problems. She too was bought as a foundation bitch, and we were devastated when it occured, but you have to come to terms with the fact that her show career no matter what class is OVER, as is breeding her, and as you are getting her desexed you are being responsible and realise this. We have known of situations where a responsible breeder has replaced dogs that have the same issues, and your breeder may do the same, and give you the chance of your breeding and showing dreams, but with this bitch its game over.

Why would any of that matter now? She has a GENETIC FAULT, and the ONLY right thing to do is have her desexed, and eliminated from the breeding programme, whether she was a breeding quality or not. Her options regarding the dog's quality of life regarding surgery, etc, are a seperate issue. It is people who take breeding animals to orthapedic surgeons have the damage repaired so they are invisible, put them in the show ring as there is no way of telling once the fur has grown back, and then breed from them that is causing issues within our breed. If a dog has a genetic fault such as patella luxation it should be eliminated from breeding, no ifs and buts about it. There is no genetic test for patella's to test for carriers, so even if you have pups from the bitch that are unaffected they could still be carrying the fault. Not only is taking these chances wrong, and against the Code of Ethics, it is cruel to the potential pups that have to live with the disorder, or have an excruiciating surgery for the repair, that may not work. Unfortunately for the owner, because the bitch has patella luxation it is not of breeding quality, so there is no point assessing its other points. It could be the most amazing dog structually and temperament wise but its patella's eliminate it from breeding potential. And if I was aware of anybody who did have a patella luxation operation occur and then still breed then I think that is something I would report.

We have been in the exact same position, with the same breed and I understand your feelings, but you need to take a deep breath, and calm down (hard I know). First you need to get a second opinion to confirm the diagonosis and the severity. Second, BEFORE you rush into the operation, you need to do some research to decide what treatment is the best for your dog. The surgery is EXTREMELY painful, and the re-cooperation is difficult, and uncomfortable for your dog for a long period of time, as you need to do each knee seperately, and recovery can take 6 weeks each leg where the dog is immobile. In some cases there are other therapies you can try, including exercise in water, losing weight, etc, and the surgery has a fairly low success rate, and in 50% of cases the joint will pop out again, there are no guarantees that the joint will stay in the patella groove. But these are decisions that YOU as the owner need to make, there is ALOT of information out there, and if you are a member of ANZ Cavaliers (an email list for Cavie breeders) or the breed club they can help you too, also on the internet. You do need to tell the breeder, especially as the dog was sold for breeding purposes. Patella luxation is a genetic disorder, but there is no test that you can have the animals take to determine whether they are carriers or not. The gene is passed on through autosomal mode of inheritance, which means that it is fairly random, and in a litter of pups from an affected animals you can have no affected, but 25% of puppies are carriers, and show no symptoms. This means that the breeder may have NO idea that she has a dog that is a carrier, and has done absolutely nothing wrong. So I wouldn't report her, because its just not fair to, once you have done your research and understand the mode of inheritance for patella's you will see that there are many circumstances in which a carrier of the disease may find there way into a breeding programme, despite best efforts to eliminate all genetic diseases. Im not saying that all the breeder's in the line are blameless, someone in the lines of your dog has done the wrong thing has bred from an affected dog, but WHEN that was done is impossible to tell, and could be ALONG way back, even great, great, great, great grandparents, etc, unless you have proof that one of the breeder's animals that she owns are affected. But as for your plans with your dog, as you are aware, her breeding days are behind her, and it is great that you are responsible enough to realise this and have her desexed. Even if she is bred with a 'clear' dog, she will pass down the defective gene to her offspring, with the chance of 1 in 4 being born affected, and 1 in 4 being carriers. I don't think that the breeder will offer you any monetery assistance with the veterinary expenses, but what seems to be fairly commonplace, is a replacement dog from different breeding later down the line. Obviously I don't know who the breeder is and can't comment on her individual actions, but if you are honest and open with her about the position you have been placed in and express your sadness and disappointment in how this is worked out, I believe most breeders will be fairly reasonable. I understand how you feel, we have been in this situation, and it is devastating, but do some research, and see what her response is, but go in educated (as much as you can be) so that if she becomes unreasonable, you can be knowledgable back. Now, some breeders out there may not be responsive, and may ignore you, or simply don't want to know, I hope this is not the case, but if you did everything possible when choosing a bitch that you were planning to breed with, that the breeder was responsible that she will continue to be responsible now. But I have never heard of money being offered to assist in the care of the dog. After all, as I have learned the hard way, buying a dog on main papers is not a guarantee - so many things can happen, and the breeder can not be responsible for things that they can't possibly invisage. Plus, GET THE WEIGHT OFF HER - it is the BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our bitch was on the podgy side too, and since she has lost weight, her knees are more stable, and the symptoms are barely noticable. If you decide to go down the surgery route you will also need her to lose the weight anyway. If you would like some links to some great research, info,etc pleaes PM me.

I have been thinking for a while now about importing a dog from New Zealand and was wondering if anybody knew the approximate costs involved? I know that it will greatly vary depending on companies chosen, etc, but am I looking at hundreds, thousands, multiple thousands, tens of thousands, etc.

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I agree with all of these points. People who are not registered with the ANKC are not going to register with thier local government either. I will add to your points 7. I already pay to have my dogs registered with the ANKC 8. I already pay to register my dogs with the local council (LGA), and they are registered as entire, and as by law, all dogs coming into my house are registered by the age of 6 months. 9. I already pay to have regular vet checks, DNA testing for inherited diseases, etc as outlined by the ANKC standards. 10. I have no issue with regular inspections of my property, and as a member of the ANKC, and by having my dogs registered with the LGA i have agreed to comply with any request for either of those organisations to do so. Does this regulation mean that on top of what I already pay to register with the LGA and the ANKC, that I will now have to pay again to register as a 'breeder', even though I fall well below the 10 dog level? I also read the legislation to mean that I will have to pay for veterinary advice to determine: - when a bitch has reached sexual maturity (despite the fact that I would NEVER breed a bitch on her first, or second, and sometimes, depending on the bitches cycle, not even her third, and complying with ANKC regulations ) - that a dog is healthy enough to breed (despite the fact that I already undertake DNA testing on ALL of the animals I intend to breed with, for all known inheritable diseases for my breed, with what testing is available, and despite some, act upon those tests and eliminate affected dogs from my breeding programs. I also have a relationship with my vet that means that they are already aware of each of my dogs health) Some of the things in the document I believe are good, like a national database for microchipping - oh hang on, I already do that as well!!!! And the details are registered with Dogs NSW, and the ANKC, and the LGA. That would make all the pups traceable!!!! I also provide puppy buyers with registration certificates from the ANKC. I suppose the real issue with the document is that, while thier heart is in the right place, alot of the registration plans are already in place for those of us that do the right thing. They are just proposing ANOTHER body for pure breed breeders to PAY to join. I do not think, however, that those who are doing the wrong thing will care!!!! And those are the puppy farmers - after all if they cared they wouldn't treat thier dogs the way they do. I don't know how they plan to enforce it (except for using the money that we as pure breed breeders will pay to join this new state, and national organisation) but to get EVERY dog breeder to join, including backyard breeders, mixed breed breeders, and designer dog breeders, is one dream, to enforce it is quite another!!!! I think the RSPCA, should try and make nice with the ANKC, after all they already have one corner of the dog world that are already largely following these rules, maybe they could get together, and try and end puppy farming - something that should be stopped. The ANKC have already put in place rules towards maximum numbers of puppies per bitch, and this should extend to per breeder. On the whole, this document is not very pure breed friendly, it will increase our costs greatly, and not make many improvements to those of us who already adhere to the ANKC code of ethics, and regulations, which if you think about it, will drive more and more of the general public away from pure breeds. Already too many do not understand why our dogs cost more than one from another source, they don't understand the time, testing, and costs associated with producing sound, happy pure breed pups, and extra costs relating to registration and veterinary expenses will push the cost per puppy up, leading to more cross-breeds, puppy farmed, and designer dogs bought. We, as a pure breed community, should stick together, and try to help the whole dog world face the problems of puppy farming, including dealing with those within our own organisation who DO NOT follow the rules. But at least those within our organisation are traceable, and can be held accountable, it is those who are out there who do not have a Code of Ethics, do not understand the slightest thing about dog breeding and the intricate genetic details, and do not even bother testing for inherited diseases, or do not even know the history of thier dogs to even begin to make an informed decision about breeding, or those who do it simply to make a dollar, and have no welfare for thier dogs - there the ones who should be targeted, and there's a wide range of them, puppy farmers or not, NOT pure breed breeders, which although the document does not directly target, it will have a substansial impact on us as a community. I understand that tackling puppy farming has become very 'fashionable' for politicians, and the like to try and address, but I believe this legislation will have little or no effect, and in some ways drives the population AWAY from breeders who are already registered with a LGA, state and national body, already follow a code of ethics, are traceable, and produce traceable pups, and take the health and soundness of thier dogs into consideration in the majority of cases.

The chi's would of been hidden up the back under the stairs to the cafe in the 'toy' benches. We were in there on friday, and will be again this week. It sucked, as we didn't get to display our dogs to the public, which last week we were there with the cavies. A shame that ALL of the cavaliers (despite being the feature breed at this years show) were all in the 'toy' benches up the back hidden away, and the public only had two at the stall to pat, and talk too. You would think that at least the feature breed would be on display to the public. I think there were about 30 there that could of been admired, and more breeders to talk and spread the love of a beautiful breed. But alas, up the back we were. I know the benches up the back are smaller and designed for the toys, but i have no idea why all the toy breeds are hidden from public display, when i would imagine they are hugely popular for people to see!!!!!!! So you probably won't see peke's out of the ring either!!! As for times, all toys and terriers are being judged by one judge in the first ring as you come from the direction of the showbag pavillion. I had a look at times, and your right there is only two timeframes, but the peke's will have griffon's and japanese chins in the ring before they are on. They are relatively small breeds (about 15 per breed as per the catalogue), and would only take fortyfive minutes, to an hour and peke's are the last breed to be judged by that judge, so I would say it would not be before 2:00-2:30, providing they keep to the lunch break etc. But keep an eye on the ring anyway, griff's and chins are delightful to watch anyway!!!!!!!! Hope this helps a little though!!

I live in the area, in Blue Haven, and I thank you for the warning. It is something that has always concerned me, and now I will be extra vigiliant. Hope the beeps that did it are apprehended, and dealt with.

Breeders don't sell on limited reg to stop BYB's and puppy farmers that's the reason given to excuse the practice of controlling someone elses property. They sell on limited reg to prevent you breeding with their bloodlines for two reasons generally. One reason especially in the show scene, they don't want to get beaten by another kennel establishing a better line on the original kennels dogs, and the other reason is producing substandard progeny with their dogs in the pedigree so inexperienced breeders don't use a good male over a poor bitch and produce poor pups for people to say that XYZ kennel's stud is a poor producer. Limited reg is about "control" for the most part, to control who has the rights of owning a pedigree dog and who doesn't for my opinion on the matter. A quality litter should be sold on mains and no rules within the ANKC structure suggests otherwise, the limited reg thing is merely a trend for control freaks misconstrude as ethical breeding practices directed towards people naive enough to accept it. I sell my pup on limited to try to protect them from being used by BYB - unfortunately I failed and have been screwed over a pup that was sold on a desex contract on limited registration. Personally I don't give a fat rats ares if you think that makes me a control freak for trying to protect my pups from pricks who only see them as a cash cow... Your comment is very distasteful and disgusting.. I second that.

I am truly sorry that you had such a horrific experience with your much loved pet. Myself I have had to make the extremely hard decision you found yourself in a couple of times and the making of the decision is bad enough. However, I have found all the vets that have performed the procedure to be comforting, understanding and very professional. Despite this, I too am disallusioned with some in the vet profession. Some seem more about money than empathy towards animals. We had one vet who was cold to the animals, and barely touched them, or calmed them, in fact barely noticed thier prescence. My sister worked for her as a Vet Nurse, and one night we had an emergency with my sisters dog . He had ingested human medication, and was basically unconcious by the time we got to the clinic. The vet was there on her own, as it was after hours at this stage, and began to tell us about how the dog might die, and what dire straits he was in. We were frantic, and crying inconsolobly (???spellling) - she told us she could give him some medications and put him on a drip and keep him in overnight. We told her whatever was needed, the dog was insured, and we would of spent almost anything to save him. We kept waiting for her to do something as he lay lifeless on the table, and she casually said that our credit card would need to be put through for a deposit of $500 before she could start work. She left the dog unattended on the table, and even made comments about insurance companies and joked with us, went to another room, turned the eftpos machine on (which took several minutes) then ran the credit card through. My mum made a mistake with the pin, so it had to go through twice, all the while we were hoping he would be ok. As soon as she got the reciept that said 'approved' she ran out the back and began treating our dog. It was disgusting. We were regular customers of hers, my sister was employed by her, so it wasn't like we would skip out on the bill or anything, and it still took a good ten minutes before she would treat her employee's dog. He survived, thankfully, and my sister continued to work there for a couple of months, but after witnessing so many instances were the vet was cold, unhelpful, and uncaring, and in some cases let dogs die in difficult, and painful circumstances, and charging people thousands of dollars when she knew the animal had no chance and the operation would in fact kill them, and subjecting abandoned animals to 'practice surgeries' my sister left. We have never taken an animal there again, and never will, and would suggest no one else did either. In saying that it makes it sound as though I am against vets in general, but I am not. We have since found a lovely vet, who is caring and kind, and is in fact cheaper than the one mentioned previously, and I feel actually CARES.

Im pretty sure in NSW you need an official entry form booklet, or the pre printed ones from Dogs NSW. I know that Swayd prints them up for clubs etc, but i didn't think we were allowed to just print them off, otherwise i might do that. But I always use the official ones, as i thought that it was the ONLY way we are allowed to enter in NSW. You can order them through the stationery order form in the Dogs NSW gazette, or via thier website.