TheCheekyMonster

12 months end of August

Gus is always the one belly up and has NEVER defended himself in a situation where he could have(i.e another dog getting a little agro and putting him in place), he will crouch down, roll on his belly,, or slump down and walk away has never challenged another dog. Yesterday at the dog park a cav x poodle came along and Gus and this dog were playing fine, all of a sudden there was a tiff and Gus was really getting into him, ears back, strong stance growling and snarling and HE WENT TO BITE HIM!!! I had no idea how to handle that I pulled him back from the collar and waited for him to calm down, but he was pretty worked up, breathing very heavily, almost choking, I put him back on lead and waited till this dog left the park before I let him back off and he was absolutely fine with every other dog that was there. But is this something I should be very concerned about? or how do I deal with this to make sure it doesnt happen again....it took me completely left of field. I've never had to worry about my dog retaliating, his always just whoosed out and come back to me (luckily this happened around my feet)

hey everyone!! Is there a date that is good for everyone?

hmm... I should invest in it..... even bones he will down in minutes and im not talking chicken frame type bones im talking big arse prok thigh bones. ... Freezing his food is actually not a bad idea!

APBT's, one of the 'dogs' people are fighting over, are a specific breed - APBT :laugh: Perhaps I'm missing something (or not). They're not recognised by the ANKC; big whoop, nor are a great deal of other breeds which have standards in other registries around the world (not that recognition by a registry, working or otherwise determines whether or not a given breed exists). Exactly. As I said earlier the ANKC are not the only registry and plenty of breeds aren't recognized. The APBT has been around for yonks and used to be used as a service dog in the military etc. They are working dogs first and foremost and loyal, clever, gentle dogs. Fantastic with kids. Maybe people who think they're all just a bomb waiting to go off should do some research and meet some well bred dogs. Making them illegal only means the good breeders are out of the game and the BYBs step in. They have created what they were trying to avoid! I always take Nala to shows with us, she is a good ambassador for the breed and 9 times out of 10 we have a dalmatian and a APBT in the same crate peoples minded are set thinking and questioning what they think they know about the breed.... when we take her for a walk around the venue 9 times out of 10 we are fronted with barking dogs she will not react (99%) of the time and I think thats a pretty darn good effort for any breed, especially one that has been given the image of "dangerous"......its all about education. Good on you, Nala is exactly the type of ambassador we need and a great example of what lovely dogs APBT's are when raised properly, as with any dog. Plus she's ultra gorgeous :laugh: Hahaha its pretty funny when people ask for a pat and she does the massive bum wiggle and droopy eyes like "Thats right people praise me" hahah people dont expect it and that is what I love about her and others like her, they take a square and put a few dints in their perspective of what a dangerous dog is, I just dont get it, killing someone for their colour is racist but killing a dog for its head size is required?

APBT's, one of the 'dogs' people are fighting over, are a specific breed - APBT :laugh: Perhaps I'm missing something (or not). They're not recognised by the ANKC; big whoop, nor are a great deal of other breeds which have standards in other registries around the world (not that recognition by a registry, working or otherwise determines whether or not a given breed exists). Exactly. As I said earlier the ANKC are not the only registry and plenty of breeds aren't recognized. The APBT has been around for yonks and used to be used as a service dog in the military etc. They are working dogs first and foremost and loyal, clever, gentle dogs. Fantastic with kids. Maybe people who think they're all just a bomb waiting to go off should do some research and meet some well bred dogs. Making them illegal only means the good breeders are out of the game and the BYBs step in. They have created what they were trying to avoid! I always take Nala to shows with us, she is a good ambassador for the breed and 9 times out of 10 we have a dalmatian and a APBT in the same crate peoples minded are set thinking and questioning what they think they know about the breed.... when we take her for a walk around the venue 9 times out of 10 we are fronted with barking dogs she will not react (99%) of the time and I think thats a pretty darn good effort for any breed, especially one that has been given the image of "dangerous"......its all about education.

Do dogs get indigestion? I ask because I have noticed in the last week after Gus eats he will make this very weird burpy sound but it comes from his stomach. He is also doing that thing when dogs are about to vomit or clear their throat.... not sure if I should be worried or not, his Gums are nice and pink and his not salivating excessively or drinking a lot.... but I'm a little worried he might get bloat... he hoovers food and no matter what I do I cant get him to slow down and scattering food around the yard isnt an option. (I guess i could use the kong but he gives up after a while)

Both of my dogs are from BYB's, purchased before I knew that was a bad thing. Do they deserve to die because of that? Do they not have a right to exist just because they do not have pedigree papers? It all comes back to education really... something people fighting BSL are all for. Lol wow apparently I am a numb nuts tough guy too... nice one. Best be careful of my two "landsharks" snuggling with the cat on the lounge. I though this too... not a very good advertisement for your business at all. +1, I know what business I wont be supporting....

Awful, just a witch hunt by sadists who need to make themselves feel bigger by hurting and harming innocent dogs. This makes me feel sick yea its pretty disturbing isnt it! that old mans dog clearly looked like a labx even though his dog is not a dangerous dog who knows the legal fees he now needs to pay in order to just get his dog back absolute pigs!

Someone had posted this on another thread and I thought it was a pretty good example of BSL not being helpful :)

you not caring about that is a huge problem You Squares are a huge problem :) ah here we go, personal insults Sorry I do apologise squares are a huge problem... so closed minded

So I suppose this http://www.dailyadve...ious-dalmatian/ is just a one off attack by a non aggressive breed so it is okay? Because Dali's heads aren't normally foggy with aggression. We aren't fighting to save BYBers and their over bred dogs. We are fighting to save certain breeds of dogs who are being discriminated against based on appearance. BYB's over breed many breeds of dogs, that isn't going to stop until legislation changes. You may not like bull breeds, but that is no reason for them to be eradicated. Laws like this are just the beginning It is bull breeds now, what is going to be next? Your head just seems to me to be foggy with hatred, maybe you need to channel your aggression into fighting BSL with the rest of us. You are not fighting to save certain breeds at all as the dogs people are fighting over are all BYB's of no specific breed as such that have no recognised standard. It's not the beginning of anything as the precident on what will be next was set with the Amstaff's exclusion from BSL although it's essentially a Pitbull of some degree. When a court determines that an Amstaff is a Pitbull and then specifically the Amstaff is excluded from BSL and not added to the list proves the point of where things are heading and confirms that ANKC recognised breeds are safe. If breed restrictions were on the agenda, the Amstaff would have been done and dusted..........and what happened??, the Amstaff being a recognised breed was excluded like any other recognised breed would be in the same instance. If they did for example try and add Dalmations onto the BSL list and ban them suddenly, the Amstaff sets the legal precident to overturn the decision immediately. Ask the question again what breed could be next?..........any breed or mixture of that is not ANKC recognised, again the choice is in the hands of the consumer if you want a dog that the rangers won't be scooping up, buy papered from a registered breeder or choose a cross breed or un-papered dog that doesn't resemble a restricted breed..........how hard is that seriously?? it's not hard at all. The only problem is that a lot of the numb nuts that want to own a "tough guy dog" are rejected as suitable owners by registered ethical breeders of Am Staffs.They have no choice but to go to the BYBs to get their "land shark". BYBs are accountable and should be stopped. True story.......one of these numb nuts got to see a trained security dog that a working Rotty breeder had recently used at stud. The numb nut told the breeder that his attacked trained Rotty was no good because he could pat the dog as he sat by the breeders side, he was hoping to see the dog try and take his arm off, Suffice to say that the breeder wouldn't sell a pup to this idiot anyway, but yes, there are plenty of numb nuts out there who want aggressive and tough dogs and it's the BYB's who are producing and supplying them and finding the aggression required from Bully type dogs. BIG F%$#ING LOL!!!!! ow god, your too funny , the garbage some people come up with astonishes me it really does, claps for you really, gold star for sourcing such Mr. Jones grandfathers uncles stories they make such a contribution to this threat its great!!.

you not caring about that is a huge problem You are a huge problem :)

I was thinking this EXACT thing... or they are 13 year old buddies

Whatever you reckon. This is the kind of reply I would be expecting from one eyed anti BSL supporter. Nothing constructive to ad, just there,ready to denigrate anyone they can, even if they have to twist what people say. I told you what my alternative was but you don't seem to have paid that any attention. I think rather than kill random dogs because of the way they look, we should further educate owners about how to keep their dog safely contained and how to socialise it with people and other dogs. That's constructive, is it not? The thing is its cheaper for governements to kill dogs than set up a proper solution of a responsible ownership and breeding campaign if they put half as much effort into that than BSL we might be going somewhere lol.

silly me! thats right lets just cull everything on 4 legs and the world will be a much much better place Whatever you reckon. This is the kind of reply I would be expecting from one eyed anti BSL supporter. Nothing constructive to ad, just there,ready to denigrate anyone they can, even if they have to twist what people say. BSL IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE there is nothing constructive about it, it solves nothing, helps no one, does not educate but you know what it does do, create depression, anger and a whole world of debate. Pitbulls are service dogs, they are family dogs, they are people’s lives dogs who look like pitbulls are peoples heart and soul, they are a dog, same species as every other breed yet people like you think they deserve to be killed for no logical explanation or reason... I'm yet to find a logical explanation as to why BSL should even be spoken about why its on the table as a solution. I'm not one eyed at all I actually have 2 eyes thank you very much, two eyes that see things for what they are BSL is a cop out.

Might I just add these dogs are not "tough" a pitbull or pitbull mix is not a "tough" dog what a silly remark, its like saying small breeds are yappy and bloody annoying, or all small breeds have little dog syndrome thus must be put down because you never know when a Chihuahua is going to run out of its yard and puncture your ankle! TOTAL GENERALISATION AND LOAD OF CROCH S*#T.

So I suppose this http://www.dailyadve...ious-dalmatian/ is just a one off attack by a non aggressive breed so it is okay? Because Dali's heads aren't normally foggy with aggression. We aren't fighting to save BYBers and their over bred dogs. We are fighting to save certain breeds of dogs who are being discriminated against based on appearance. BYB's over breed many breeds of dogs, that isn't going to stop until legislation changes. You may not like bull breeds, but that is no reason for them to be eradicated. Laws like this are just the beginning It is bull breeds now, what is going to be next? Your head just seems to me to be foggy with hatred, maybe you need to channel your aggression into fighting BSL with the rest of us. I have seen more territorial and dog reactive Dalmatians than pits or pit x in my life..... its one thing that happens when you dont breed for temperament or positively socialise your dog with other dogs and humans...and might I add, DOGS DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE OTHER DOGS OR PEOPLE!! that is a demand HUMANS place on them and it is totally unnatural, But once again thats how an owner chooses to bring up that dog and not the dogs fault, my dally and my pit love dogs and people, unless they are drunks or violent, or want to mount them :) every dog will bite, you just need to find its trigger. My dalmatian is the most submissive thing you will ever meet, has never bitten in his life, except when his paw got stuck in the fridge door and I tried to help him get it out.. he bit me, was that anything to blame him for? no he was in pain it was his only reaction HE IS A DOG it is their only defense.

squares will be squares

What right does a government body have to restrict a breed without hard evidence that there is a universal hardwiring of the brain that pitbull and pitbull types are human/dog aggressive? im sorry to inform you but GSD, Rotties and Dobes have all been placed in this category before, its just the cop out of the century really, also who are you or anyone else to tell people what breed they can/should be buying/adopting? that is absolutely disgraceful what's next? where do the restrictions stop? its a bandaid solution for a problem that lays with the human race not the k9 one, and I dont think you are anyone to tell people to stop fighting for what they believe in, and that is the culling of innocent dogs for the way they look! next 10 years it WILL be another breed in which the minority will destroy and the majority will have to pay the consequence. And FYI Pitbulls and American Staffords were the same breed 70 odd years ago, one was bred for show one a pit....... they are not bred for a pit anymore and in some countires they are recognised as a breed, if they were recogised in australia and if they were to be bred ethically and legally, breeding for temprement would have to me a major factor like with any other breed. Breeding is not all about how the dog physically meets he standard but it is mentally as well, agression can be bred into ANY breed if done so by dim bats.

How would they know who has done it? it would be nearly impossible for them to pin anyone unless it did mention a website or organisation, even then it would be defamation to accuse them unless they had pretty hard evidence, but thanks for the heads up, I didnt know it was illegal.

Just because they're listed on DOL doesn't mean they're ethical ;) Yeah, they're great Steph's not breeding any more though. :)

Funniest thing, I remember walking Nala across the road and asked her to sit before I did so, there was a security guard on the other side and he looked so impressed his jaw was nearly on the ground... his like wow how did you get "him" (because all pittys are boys apparently) to listen pits are untrainable they are pretty strong dogs... I just laughed and said no no SHE is excellent to train and she respects her owner's authority :) and walked off uneducated fool.

Hm.... this has inspired me!!