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A friend of mine owns a pub and one of her customers had called into the pub on the way to go yabbying. He was there long enough for my girlfriends dog to jump into the back of his ute and raid the yabbie nets. Later that night my girlfriend got into bed stretched out and felt a softish thing with her foot. She pulled back the sheets to find out Diesl had stashed a part of a toungue in her bed, that had been bait in the yabbie pot. It was quite warm so by that time of night so the toungue was wiffy as well. Diesel was most upset that his stash got thrown in the bin.

Albury Central Tourist Park is a caravan park in Albury that allows pets. The phone no is 60 218 420 if you need it. It is right next to the kennel club and showgrounds.

That's good, hopefully this is all it is. Thanks for the replies.

I'm rarely talking to base level staff. I tend to meet these people at seminars and conferences. I was invited to speak to various managers about my research one time. When they speak frankly you start to realise how difficult their job is. When I was invited to speak to them it was partly about improving temperament tests. They are not clueless at all. A lot of the stuff people have been saying about them on this thread indicates poor understanding of the issues. corvus You have been brainwashed by this vile multi-million dollar organization that claims to be a charity. Ask your R$PCA mates to tell you the truth about Clifford and why they won't work with rescue groups. Ask them why they stand over registered breeders and dog owners, ask them why with millions of dollars they beg for newspapers and cat litter from the general public. Ask them why they spend millions on advertising, shouldn't the money be spent on the animals in their care. Ask them why they use these stupid temp tests, especially the doll temp test as I said even a person with a 6th grade education knows something is very wrong with them. Just for the record I tried the doll test on my rescue GSD puppy (12 mths old) and she jumped back barked and growled at it...even though she has a lovely nature and is very good with kids...mmmm I'd better take her to the R$PCA straight away and have her put to sleep. Also check out these links, you might change your mind ...so many people can't be wrong. http://www.markmaldridge.com/RSPCA-----SOME-TRUTH.html http://www.theherald.com.au/story/402230/poll-debate-over-rspca-temp-test/ http://lawyersforcompanionanimals.com.au/rspca-cops-a-serve-over-two-dead-dogs/ http://lawyersforcompanionanimals.com.au/opinion-poor-rescue-groups-shame-rich-rspca-2/ http://www.careaware.info/euthanasia.html http://www.rspcawatchdog.org/home.htm http://deathrowpets.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/rspca-nsw-working-with-rescue-groups-or-not/ http://twolittlecavaliers.com/2013/01/dog-lovers-take-a-stand-against-rspca.html http://www.savingpets.com.au/2013/03/rspca-nsw-gives-a-big-fu-to-rescue-groups/ Ok RSPCA aside, what do you suggest as an alternative test?

Put yourself in your dogs position. If Joe Blow came into your house and picked up your jewellery, tv, car keys and bank cards and then asked you for your pin would you allow that? What would you do if Joe said well bad luck I don't want to stop, get a little more assertive or just say oh ok knock yourself out. I'm guessing you would get more assertive even aggressive if you felt the need, your dog is doing the same, not giving out the pin no and not allowing his most prized possesion to be taken and is acting the only way he knows how to prevent it.

I don't know I haven't seen the reports.

Yes that was my first thought too, but she did go a reputable clinic and my boss said they did send him reports on her prog levels during her stay there and all seemed good

Hi We have had a bitch back after AI for about a week and she has started acting like she is in season (backing up and flicking her tail to the side)and the boys are acting like she is in season too. Could this behaviour be an indicator she isn't pregnant?

Definitely Qld - I think Bundaberg? Loving the pictures of dogs with their dollies :D Just to add, I don't think because some report or study somewhere advocates the use of this test that it should be taken as gospel. There can always be "research" found to support any supposition but when it defies common sense and a sense of fairness I don't buy it. I lost faith in the RSPCA a while ago after seeing some questionable things happen on the rescue show and after reading about the treatment of the cavalier mum and pups in a previous thread. What alternative do you suggest? To me it is better to have some test in place, even if the results aren't entirely conclusive, rather than rehoming the dog only to find out it is wary of/aggro to children with a real child. I have a dog here that I won't rehome because of food aggression, she is brilliant with people and dogs when her full food bowl isn't in the picture. She was just as happy to bite the fake hand (which is far less realistic than the doll) as she was mine. I can now take her food off her easily but I don't trust people to be responsible, so I'm stuck with her. Unfortunately because I don't have the room to take anymore dogs that has stopped me from taking in two lovely dogs to rehome, don't know what happened to them and I don't want to know. Maybe the RSPCA feel the same???

Hi I didn't see the show so can't comment on it but I have used a life size doll (4-5 yr old) on a stick when doing assessments on dogs. Yes in some situations it was hard for the dog and pending on the intensity of the reaction I reccommended caution when further assessments were being conducted. Most dogs were wary of it but usually came round when they did approach the fist places they generally checked out were the armpits and the crotch which made me think that possibly they did form some sort of association with a child. The doll always had used kids clothes on. I used the doll and a hand on a stick for food guarding assessment also. Yes dogs aren't stupid but if the reaction was fast and intense to me it was a heads up there may be an issue. I have been using a toy dog on dog aggressive dogs for many years as I can direct the body language of the toy and assess triggers if there are any. If I misread the dog Fido will cop it instead of one of my dogs. They do think he is a real dog until they have checked him out thoroughly up close, poor Fido's even been mounted. The good thing is that Fido doesn't react in any way. Fido is stored with my dog gear so would smell like dogs. I think it does smooth the way for the real dogs.

Great :) , thanks.

When you say be here is that Melbourne or Albury area?

That's good. I hope she keeps improving.

Good on you for undertaking the care of this dog poor little girl. Is she lying in a crate or something that you could secure an egg carton that has some food in it or some food rolled in layers of paper or in a cardboard box or anything that is safe for her to chew up or at, to side of her crate so she can tear at it to get the food. You could put her food in several so that she occupied for longer. Place items upside down with food under neath that she has to manipulate them with her nose to get the food. Squeaky toys is another thing that may interest her they have chew to make it squeak, this may drive you nuts though :) Does she like playing tug you could tie a toy to the side of the crate with a short bungee cord with a piece of hose over the top (harder to get caught up on) so she can pick it up and tug, if that's possible for her to do. hth

:laugh: assuming you meant toys, not the kids. To get back on topic, he isn't on cortisone is he? That can make them really hungry.

I have never used an ecollar on stim for attention getting with a deaf dog only the vibration the first one was a home made job which worked ok for a large dog, but that was only used when they where doing the training with me, they then got one off the internet as the range wasn't great on the homemade one. The next time I had a small dog come to me so we used a Dogtra IQ on vibration, as it is the lightest I could find. I'm in NSW so I contacted the DPI and the person at that I was talking to about the legalities told me that I should cover the prongs and the stim buttons when using it, which we did.

Dogs are very good observers and are opportunists so this doesn't surprise me. Dogs learn through model rival training so they can observe and copy, therefore I don't see why they can't observe and then jump through observed loopholes when the opportunity and need arises. I was talking to a lady with impaired vision whose guide dog was running her into things and the retraining consisted of banging the object (she ran into) hard and reprimanding the dog, her words were "scaring the dog with the object to make it aware of it". So I don't think it is innate, like dogs observing and being opportunists, they do need to be shown somehow.

Not sure if this book has exactly what you are after in it but the best book I have read regarding dogs scenting abilities and scent is called Scent and the Scenting Dog by William G Syrotuck.

I agree I use a toy dog before I bring my dogs out, there are two reasons the toy dogs body language can be manipulated by me so I can see if that upsets the aggro dog (above threshold initially) and then as we are getting closer if it does go pear shaped Fido cops it and not my dogs (not that he has and the dogs do think he is real). The second reason is it gives the owner of the dog the opportunity to learn how to get their dog behave appropriately without the owner stressing and again if it goes pear shaped no harm done.

My friend owns a Hotel and her dog during trading hours is everybodies friend, even strangers, outside trading hours he has a completely different attitude and has proven this on several occasions. We have had customers who know the dog well come outside trading hours and are very surprised to find Diesel will not let them in, despite them saying his name etc. The only exceptions to that are the chef and myself, we still get barked at but it is more an excited they are here mum than a stay away bark.

I wasn't insinuating anything. I use them myself.

I don't think anyone said that the Sporn halter was a substitute for training. I don't see why the dog isn't being trained/conditioned with a Sporn. As has been mentioned the dog sees pulling on it unpleasant so couldn't it used as the motivator to walk in a position or at a certain distance from you etc. Not how I use a no-pull harness, but essentially the removal of something the dog doesn't like is what is stopping the dog from pulling. What do you mean by "Not how I use a no-pull harness?" Is it at all possible for people in this thread, especially the ones who claim to have dog training experience, to offer some constructive advice instead of bagging everything other people have to say? And you wonder why we (the clients) don't take our dogs to obedience training as often as we should. Do you realise how off-putting your arrogance is? I have had a gutful of the p*ss poor attitude from some of the people in this thread and I won't be returning to it again. I'm sorry but my post was no way intended to be bagging anyone out I was just putting my thoughts across. What I meant by "not how I use it" was in reference to the two examples I used. I only use the no-pull harness to stop the dog pulling I'm just the mobile post :) I don't use it to teach the dog to do something as in the examples, just not to do something. I don't care where my dogs walk beside, behind, in front etc, just as long as they are not pulling me.

I don't think anyone said that the Sporn halter was a substitute for training. I don't see why the dog isn't being trained/conditioned with a Sporn. As has been mentioned the dog sees pulling on it unpleasant so couldn't it used as the motivator to walk in a position or at a certain distance from you etc. Not how I use a no-pull harness, but essentially the removal of something the dog doesn't like is what is stopping the dog from pulling.

Yes they do :), but while relevant to the dogs now not so much as a traditional trainer. As an example if I was hanging out washing the dogs would come with me , lie around while I hang it, when i was looking like I was going to go back inside they would get up and race to the back door initially my dogs would tear through the door, now they generally run to back door stop wait for me to catch up and then go through after me. As i have never trained for that I don't get why they are doing it. They rarely throw behaviours at me as I don't shape much and I rarely use stuff I trained for, at home, only when we are out and about. The first dog I really noticed this with was a Lab and she wasn't polite, she was a barger, barge her way into anything/where.

Hi Since becoming a crossover trainer one thing I have noticed is is once I start training (basic obedience) my dogs or any rescues that I have had come through here will just start letting me through the door first when coming from the back yard to inside i.e. they will run to the door and wait for me to get there and then follow me in, rather than running ahead of me and going through the door. Not every single time but certainly the majority of the time. I have never ever trained for this, the only time I do any door training is when I want one dog to go in and the others to stay out and I give the wanted dog permission to go in but the dog goes through the door first. Not absoluely sure that it is just because I've started training them and are giving them boundries etc (as has been suggested to me elsewhere not this forum) because when I was a traditional trainer the dogs would run through the door first. Just wondering if anyone is able to give me an explanation or point me in a direction that may explain why.