AdelK9

I'll leave you witch hunters to do your work... People that are so quick to condemn disgust me. I believe RSPCA's charges are most probably trumped up charges... I firmly believe they have an agenda. I am not defending if FOUND guilty. I am stating she has a right to the presumption of innocence. Lola appears to have MORE supporting her than there are detractors like you here. That say's a lot to me. Good luck with your witch hunt.

Sorry but when you are in rescue you are expected to vet check each animal that comes in. Each animal needs to be vaccinated if the state of vaccination is unknown, each animal needs to be spayed or neutered before adoption and each animal needs to be chipped and registered if they are not already chipped. These things don't come cheap. Then on top of that, animals need to be kept free of parasites and if they come in with infestations they need to be treated. Same goes for any conditions. Since these are largely unwanted/unclaimed animals from pounds you would assume they have various issues that their owners have not tended to. I cannot see how you can compare rescue dogs and cats to a privately owned pet? I realize you are a professional and many on this forum seem to hold you in high regard and are quick to recommend you, so I am a little dismayed at the way you seem to be happy to excuse every shortcoming that is brought up. It was said that conditions were made previously, so the shelter did not pass all inspections with flying colours. Lola was told to reduce her numbers as well from what I have read. I also disagree with the actions of the RSPCA in seizing dogs and not allowing another vet to view them or conduct an autopsy to prove or disprove their conditions. I also don't believe that cat flu is a good reason for euthing that kitten on arrival and I do believe that this may be standard procedure for some RSPCA shelters. However, if those dogs really did have untreated conditions and were suffering due to lack of treatment then that is in fact cruelty. It does not matter whether it was cruelty committed in the name of rescue or in the name of making money by mass producing puppies. Suffering is suffering is suffering. I agree that the RSPCA have not gone about this in the best manner but that does not mean that the complaints made should not be investigated properly. I respect your response.. However Moorook doesn't have 120 dogs going to their shelter a month. Maintaining an flea treatment and internal parasite treatment can be done very cheaply, if you know how to go about it. They may use Ivamec, I am not sure, for all internal parasites. De-fleaing only needs to done if an out break occurs. With the correct preventive measures this shouldn't be such a big issue. I am not the only professional dog trainer/behaviourist in SA that is disgusted with the way all this has been handled. As I said I believe its a witch hunt, and it is wrong. This could have all been done in a more humane and friendly way.. But RSPCA are too power hungry, and in my opinion over step the mark when it suits them.. In most cases you can't even get them out to take a sick or injured animal. And if they do, there is more than a 50% chance it will be killed anyway.

It's a sad situation for sure... Lola has her supporters and her detractors.. But then doesn't everybody, every business, and every organisation? Was/is Moorook untidy? For sure, I'd be the first to agree. Is it in need of repairs, yes definitely. Is it so bad that dogs shouldn't be there? I have seen nothing to convince me that conditions are so bad that it should be closed down. I am sure if RSPCA had any proof of this they would have thrown the book at Lola, and instantly taken ALL the animals. Instead all they have virtually said, is clean the place up. They took 8 dogs and a cat. Four of those animals were killed, after 'apparently' being seen by an independent Vet. We all know how quick RSPCA are to kill an animal, for reasons that make you shake your head in disbelief. When RSPCA seize an animal, why doesn't the person or organisation the animal was seized from have any rights to also have an independent Vet examination? RSPCA are a law unto themselves. In the case of Moorook, they (the RSPCA) have destroyed the evidence, and expect everyone to believe a Vet that is of course on the RSPCA's books.. whom also is involved in contributing to their extremely high kill rates. If conditions were so bad at Moorook, why did the council continually dump dogs and cats on her door step? Why did RSPCA pass Moorooks inspection late last year, and with all the dogs and cats there? You detractors of her, are you trying to convince me things just all of a sudden fell apart in the past 6 months? I find that very difficult to believe. We should be very careful about taking the word of a disgruntled former employee or volunteer, without direct evidence, to support their claims. I see many volunteers praising the work of Lola. Why should 'A' disgruntled former volunteers word be taken over other volunteers that state differently? I have spoken to dog owners that have rehomed dogs from Moorook, and were very happy. I have spoken to a well respected dog trainer in SA, that spends time at Moorook training dogs and modifying unwanted behaviours. I tend to believe them than the ravings of people that obviously have an axe to grind. Some people just seem to find pleasure in putting others down, just because the person doesn't come up to their own ideals of what is right! In regards to spending $4,000 a month on Vet bills. If that seems small, as a previous poster suggested. How many times a year does she take her dog to a Vet? I know in my case, my dog hasn't been taken to a vet for over 7 years, except for a 3 yearly vaccination. So the suggestion you need to spend more than $33 per dog on average is totally flawed and laughable. In regards to cats roaming loose. I mean come on now, did we see hundreds? No, we saw a few cats! And what better way to keep vermin away like mice and rats? This has all turned into a witch hunt, and it disgusts me. I see nothing to suggest that Lola should be charged for cruelty. That I hope will be proven in a court of law.. But RSPCA are very smart here.. First destroy the evidence, then charge her! Any other court of law, if a police officer did that, it would be thrown out of court! I would be the first to condemn Lola if I thought she was genuinely being cruel to animals. But for a lady that has dedicated her life to saving animals, and finding them homes, I applaud her. Almost 3,000 dogs have homes now because of her. RSPCA could never claim her success rate with re-homing. I am not going to get drawn into arguments about Mark Aldridge. He has his agenda for sure. However I believe he is a genuine animal lover. I think people need to take a good look at themselves before throwing such nasty stones.. I see many more people praising the work of Lola, than condemning her.. That says a lot to me. Is she perfect, as many of you seem to feel she should be? Of course not! However she has a good heart and is doing her best with the minimum amount of support she gets. I personally take my hat off to her, at least until I see evidence for myself that she is cruel and inhumane to animals.....

For those that didn't see the TT expose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uy-RqlQ3ots

Just because you have a vendetta against Mark, don't drag me into it. I don't even personally know the guy I happen to not agree with a lot of what you are saying.. and no arguing back and forth is going to change that for either of us.... Have a good day :)

Thats all you can do is talk about Mark.. I think this goes a lot deeper with you than just Moorook :)

I have seen them all.. and the TT expose.... I said no they are not high class kennels, yes pretty run down.. No doubt.

As I said you are entitled to your opinion.. I beg to differ... We could go on an on.. I listen to people that I know, my clients and another professional. I do not know Mark.. I only found out about him, because I was disgusted in the way RSPCA handled this, and by their (in my opinion) corrupt and underhanded activities. I was posting about this way before I even knew Mark existed..... As I said, the truth will come out soon :)

Where did I admit, that I only know about the situation from what Mark has said? I have clients that obtained their dog from Moorook.. Many infact. I also have confidentiality concerns too.. But I may know a lot more than you realise. Where did I say things were 'perfect' at Moorook? Why did Moorook pass EVERY inspection, until this year? Even with the amount of dogs Lola had in, RSPCA passed her inspections, and council kept handing dogs to her? Tell me its not true that late last year Council approached RSPCA to open a shelter in the Riverland? So NOW its a big deal? If the claims of cruelty are proven, which I don't believe they will be, then yes she should be charged. As anyone that is cruel to an animal. RSPCA are pretty fast too destroy evidence. Also to suggest that RSPCA don't go to court without all the facts in their favour. I can give you numerous examples where they have lost court cases. I can't believe you are comparing a no-kill shelter to a puppy farm! She has her supporters, and yes I am one of them. Everyone has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Just because a few (maybe even many) disgruntled people are against her, doesn't make her an evil person... She has her supporters too. We will see what transpires.. As I said I know of many, many dog owners that have spoken highly about Moorook. Even a well regarded professional dog trainer in Adelaide, that helps rehabilitate dogs out there. I trust these peoples judgement. Not the ravings of people upset because the kennels aren't some high class establishment. We wil lsee what happens on the 24th..... If dogs are shoved into inadequate enclosures and there are too many for the people on site to care for you better believe I will compare those conditions. How is it any different, because she has a different name, no kill instead of puppy farmer. Can you give me a daily timetable of how one woman would manage to look after 120 animals? You might think it's perfectly fine to keep dogs locked into small cages in their own filth, have dirty water and chocolate milk and vermin exposed food to eat but some of us think dogs deserve better than that. Not to mention there is no way she could have given those dogs sufficient attention each day. Some of those poor dogs are so aggressive they won't be rehomed, she does rehome some aggressive ones though, so they live in shit conditions till they die. How awesome for them. What about the cats, living loose, no protection from feral cats, disease and being run over. Can you justify that? As for your clients supporting her, how many got their dogs delivered and have never seen the place? She doesn't let many people in because too many make rspca complaints so they can buy a dog sight unseen and it gets delivered. Great rehoming system there. It is very difficult to get a cruelty conviction charge to stick so I understand why they don't seize unless they are confident they will get a conviction. It is also difficult to deal with situations like Mark created so maybe they didn't act until they knew they had enough irrefutable evidence. I'm shocked someone in your position supports hoarding, especially when you admit all your information is second hand. She has said she won't cap her numbers to what she can manage, so do you think everyone should take on more animals than they can manage or only the people that you can use to point score against the rspca. I see your views as nothing but exaggerations.. But each too their own :)

I guess like anything.. our experience is coloured by our beliefs.. I found it to be honest and open. I believe it doesn't show RSPCA in a very good light.. I also believe it shows that Moorook are doing the best they can with the lack of funding and resources they have...

A valid question I never considered it until someone on FB had a go at me for critising their high kill rate. As you know, I do not support or subscribe too purely positive training methods. RSPCA only use the services of Delta trained 'behaviourists'. I knew they wouldn't take up my offer, as for many years I have spoken out against the RSPCA and their training methods, and that of Delta. However I realised after that comment on FB, this person had a valid point. So I publicly announced my proposal to the RSPCA. Yes and a little harshly I admit. I however stand by my offer, and have many of my clients also offer their support and help to foster dogs and help with the rehabilitation. RSPCA would never have taken up my offer, even if done privately. For one they only follow the purely positive doctrine of behaviour modification. Also if an outsider came in and all of a sudden their kill rates dropped, what does that say about their methods, and the methods of Delta? I know for a fact I could drop their kill rates due to behavioral problems by more than 90%. Their temperament assessment is flawed, and so are their behaviour modification methods in most cases. My offer however remains open to them still.

I have no further comment to make, other than most on here knew you were seeing me. Then you tell them your former behaviourist didn't work for you. So yes I came in on the conversation to state why it didn't work.. Because Justice never displayed the behaviour when you were with me. I wasn't having a go at you... I even stated I am happy you found someone you could work with. End of story.

Yes and its fine for you to speak out against me.. when all I did was state a fact.. That you came out to my group socialisation classes due to aggression issues with Justice.. and all I said was that every time you came out Justice NEVER showed any aggression. I have a right to defend myself too. I am sure everyone can see who I am :) Thank you

Where did I admit, that I only know about the situation from what Mark has said? I have clients that obtained their dog from Moorook.. Many infact. I also have confidentiality concerns too.. But I may know a lot more than you realise. Where did I say things were 'perfect' at Moorook? Why did Moorook pass EVERY inspection, until this year? Even with the amount of dogs Lola had in, RSPCA passed her inspections, and council kept handing dogs to her? Tell me its not true that late last year Council approached RSPCA to open a shelter in the Riverland? So NOW its a big deal? If the claims of cruelty are proven, which I don't believe they will be, then yes she should be charged. As anyone that is cruel to an animal. RSPCA are pretty fast too destroy evidence. Also to suggest that RSPCA don't go to court without all the facts in their favour. I can give you numerous examples where they have lost court cases. I can't believe you are comparing a no-kill shelter to a puppy farm! She has her supporters, and yes I am one of them. Everyone has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Just because a few (maybe even many) disgruntled people are against her, doesn't make her an evil person... She has her supporters too. We will see what transpires.. As I said I know of many, many dog owners that have spoken highly about Moorook. Even a well regarded professional dog trainer in Adelaide, that helps rehabilitate dogs out there. I trust these peoples judgement. Not the ravings of people upset because the kennels aren't some high class establishment. We wil lsee what happens on the 24th.....

I have no affiliation with Moorook.. No I have not even been out there myself. I do have clients that have dogs from Moorook who speak highly of them. I know of another well regarded professional dog trainer that is out there often helping rehabilitate dogs. Just like any business, organisation, and even person.. We all have issues with some entity, that others may rave about. My issues are in the way RSPCA have handled this... It doesn't take much to see what their intentions are.. They are a law unto themselves, and need to be reigned in.. They are a charity with no accountability and can go around doing what they like to who they like.. All I can say is I am glad our Police Forces and other Law enforces are not run by a charity.. Our society would be in a shambles! I personally believe most if not all the charges against Lola will be thrown out of court. But we will see.