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no i've bunged them together sorry. yes, they support adoptions every so often i think not too sure, not sure whether the pug day was a one off or is a regular thing.

that is excellent though keep up the good work. i found essendon petstock to be particularly good as well in my travels.

i think you may find that the reason why the bill didn't go through was because they said that selling pets in petshops helped fill the shelters because of impulse buys. So they couldn't find enough evidence for this or enough statistics to support it so they shelved it. i mean its a tricky one, what could one say for the reason why we want sales of dogs possibly cats stopped in petshops?

and that is what we need - nothing emotive, no fingerpointing, no us versus them, and it takes away a huge chunk of the problem. Instead of puppies, with the right advice,training and suitable backup petshops could be used as one point of contact for putting people in contact with, and learning about available dogs in rescue. there's already shops who do this, petstock is one and another is petbarn formerly was pets at home. not enough of them do this. We do not sell pets and we point anyone looking for a dog in the direction of the DOL breeder listing or we give personal recommendations for breeders. petstock in Essendon Vic, supported a day where by they had pugs from a puppy farm so had an adoption drive???????

and that is what we need - nothing emotive, no fingerpointing, no us versus them, and it takes away a huge chunk of the problem. Instead of puppies, with the right advice,training and suitable backup petshops could be used as one point of contact for putting people in contact with, and learning about available dogs in rescue. there's already shops who do this, petstock is one and another is petbarn formerly was pets at home. not enough of them do this. pet barn claim it is a great hit and they make equal amount of money and they've managed to rehome many rescues from RSPCA i think or lost dogs home can't remember which they get their rescues from. pets at home was the ones if anyone remembers who wanted to stock petshops with reg breeds about 6-7 years ago so we protested about that and they switched to rescues.

whatever mate. ETA: please refrain from cutting and pasting on my website as this infringes on copyright. thank you.

anyone else want to have a go at me for what i write on my website? i take it people are now going in there and trying to pick the hell out of what i write. what i have there is from the heart and based on my experience and i am not going to change what i write or apologise or excuse myself. thank you very much. and don't send me any more personal abusive messages please. i haven't got time for all this crap. thats what i get for coming on here to this forum people personally attacking me. it sucks man.

Yes I am and yes I do and I certainly don't need your preaching nor your essay. I breed, I rescue, I train I exhibit, I health test and I assist as many people as I can. What I am trying to get across to you is that when some potential pet owner who doesn't know better reads your little spiel and gets to that line what do they think, I certainly don't need anyone telling me that because I charge money for my pups I am therefore, in your opinion,a puppy farmer. and i'll say it again for the upteenth time, im not talking about "charging" i am talking about people "breeding" their dogs for money and nothing else if that were so by what you say, i'd be putting up if breeders charge money for dogs they are a farmer but i haven't said that have i, i'd also say breeders should be charging nothing and giving away their dogs i mean its all common sense and straight forward if you have taken exception to it then don't visit my website. i stand by my little Spiel as you put it, and i have stood by it for the last 14 years thats its been there. so if i defend myself i am preaching to you when i don't know you from a bar of soap and what your experience is. i know what my experience is and i know where my heart lies. okay enough said spending time explaining myself to strangers. i've got other things to do.

ah but wait they'll still find you, locals talk and some even go as far as to dob in anyone seeing doing the wrong thing by the animals. ;) so you won't get away with it na ah ah (always wanted to use that emoticon and now i found a reason to ) Well thank God you only have two dogs then and never breed from your premises okay steve i never meant to make this a personal thing about you or i, i was talking about some puppy farmers or people who are operating a dog farm with many many dogs and who have not been licenced but the locals all know what they do and who they are just because these people are members of the council and/or members of the police force. they get away with blue murder and not following the rules like others have to. i was talking about oscar law people and how they chase up these people and get to be in the know about what is going on.

all i can say is its a cold cold world out there sometimes eh.

so you are speaking on behalf of responsible breeders are you, the same group that i proudly belong to too? are you a breeder? if you were you'd know what im talking about. and ofcourse if i write a response on here i'll be accused of writing essays and going off topic and being irrelevant again. let me get this clear to you, i make no excuses what-so-ever for breeders who breed their dogs for sole purpose of making money/profit. then you can call these people hypocrites because they are exactly the same as a dog farmer arent they. this is the common misconception amongst the public today, they think because we get "money" for our dogs we must be making a buck but they dont' stop to think about how much "money" has gone out before we even started, fees like stud which can be up to $1500 sometimes $2000 then there's vaccinations, microchips, running backwards and forwards to the vet if the bitch is having trouble all costs lots of money, ceasarians can cost up to $1500, also desexing fees so in essence if you are "responsible" as you put it, you are just getting your money back. we get alot of farmers/BYB with our breed who buy a young female of us lie through their teeth about what they want the puppy for comes into season then breed it to buggery so to stop that we keep our females to an age that we can then desex to protect our dogs. People are getting desperate enough to get a female see $ signs in their eyes and then tell you where to get off when you enquire how the dog is going that you sold to them. especially an undesexed female. so most would know what im talking about as what i say is not new to these forums and has been said to death as i got accused of doing the last few posts. and then there is the element that we get accused of not liking the competition of these horrid people who breed their dogs for money. i couldn't care less if i don't sell my dogs straight away i am more concerned with finding the most suitable home for my dogs and i know alot of other breeders that are the same. its more about breed not the money.