Maddy27

Not so much worried about her second cycle as she is still very young, and a slow maturing bitch at that, however I'm more concerned about having her around dogs, and dog shows. Also there is a genuine concern for her health when everyone else with Rotties is having 6 month seasons (or atleast they appear to be).

Thanks everyone. I'm kinda stoked she's not having a season at the mo, as my brother in law dropped his unneutered staffy (BYB) here in may while he looks for a house in Wellington where he is allowed his dog, and the effort in keeping them apart if she should come into season would do my head in! I've got her enetered in the 2012 Nationals over here in NZ, I've got my fingers crossed VERY tightly she doesn't decided to come into season then (6th October)!

Wouldn't have a clue sorry Crisovar, I purchased her from Errol Tooth, as opposed to breeding her. I will contact Errol today and ask him. Thanks for the advice, as you can probably guess, Im very new to the whole showing/pedigree world (this is my first papered dog) and I've never had a litter/unneutered dog before.

Hey there everyone. I am enquiring as my bitch has now gone nearly 9 months without a season, during this time she has ruptured her cruciates and had TTA's on both knees. People told me initially that she was stressed because of her cruciates and surgery, however as time has gone on people are starting to tell me there may be a problem and to ask my vet. The problem is, is that while my vet is pretty good, they seem to be the GP's pf the dog world in that they know a little about everything, but not a lot about more in depth topics (it took 5 visits and they still hadn't diagnosed her cruciate). Is this normal? Is this healthy? She seems to be otherwise in very good health, apart from going slightly insane being crate rested! She is only 18 months old, and had her first heat in very early december 2011 (her D.O.B. is 23rd of January 2011) The vet told me there doesn't seem to be anything wrong vaginally, and as I said before she seems to be in perfect health. Thank you for any responses.

Gidday people. Just a quick note: I'm going to the Rotorua Show next weekend. I will be getting there as soon as the gates open on friday so will be getting a very good spot by the utility ring (ring 6). I am taking a 3X3 gazebo and tarp, however it is just me, and it seems almost rude to get a prime spot and not utilise it efficiently, so if anyone out there wants half my space send me a message and I'll make sure to save it for you! I'll be hanging about till best in show breeding on the sunday so no worries about early pack up etc.

Excellent, thanks for that everyone. To those interested a Benefit show (atleast in NZ) tends to be run alongside Ch shows and the proceeds go to a charity etc.

Well they're advertised as benefit shows? They're alongside 2 Championship shows, 2X CH Shows + Benefit show Champ Show Saturday am Stakes Saturday pm Champ Show Sunday am Benefit Show Sunday pm All being organised by the same people with the same judges in the same place, just wondered?

Hey there everyone. Probably a naive question, but, I wondered if challenge certs are on offer at benefit shows? Kandy is entered in a few shows and benefit shows coming up and I'd love to see her walk away with her first challenge. She's just taken out 2nd for her group (okay so there was only 3!) in the south island rottweiler champ shows. I was ultra stoked with this as she is very much an all breeds dog rather than a specialty, there were 6 month puppies there that dwarfed her (shes 8 months)!

To be honest, I've been to this back beach in Nelson. I was awe struck by it. No body has their dogs on a lead, nobody! I took my brother in laws AmStaff down to the beach while I was down there on holiday and every dog came up to us. Luckily Tank was a lovely boy and in no time I felt I could trust him off the lead aswell (no problems BTW). My Rotties have been mauled (for want of a better word) multiple times by jack russels/foxies. They seem to be really bad for it (not trying to get into breed specific stereotyping here, I do have rotties!). Lcukily I used to keep my big boy muzzled as he was shocking for dog aggression, but I tell you what, if that muzzle wasnt on it would have been carnage! I also had an incident very recently where I was walking my two girls, muzzled, leashed, and by my side down Raumati Beach, and a Shih Tzu came rushing up and started barking and nipping, all of a sudden I hear a great shreak from a fair way down the beach, maybe a hundred meters or so, "get away from those dangerous dogs!"????Im sorry...WHAT?!?!? Dangerous?!?!? Lady my dogs are on their best behaviour, your Shih Tzu on the other hand...And the Aweful thing is the council, atleast here in Paraparaumu, will always be on the side of the smaller dog. I really feel for this bloke, and his dog. What a sad story for everyone. I only hope the council doesnt order the destruction of his pooch!

Yeap! Im sure you know the breeder, Dave Mackeown? Really really stoked to be getting a pup from him, certainly seems to be very passionate about Rotts, and ushc lovely lines!

Absolutely Andisa! You're correct! Sorry for that. But you're right Crni Lotos lines are magnificent! And previously we have very Crni Lotos dogs in NZ, there were some from Moya Rott's (I believe) that were sired from frozen seemen from Niko Crni Lotos. Im ultra excited about bringing these lines over!

Hey there everyone. Thought I'd jump in on this thread. Im mega excited. I've just put a deposit down on a pup thats not due until january. I know its a long wait but I'll get pick of the litter and Im extremely impressed with the lines (Corni Lotos) and the breeder seems like he's incredibly talented. Can't wait! I'm in the process of building run and kennel setups out the back of my property. Can't say who the dame (choice of three) will be just yet but it looks like the sire will be Felix Corni Lotos.

Thats brilliant news!

Bjelkier: Thats no good to hear! Inevitablue: I think if I've learned anything from previous business deals with friends (flatmates, lending money to friends, etc) its that theres no such thing as mates in business! I cant say how well you know your breeder but maybe make sure EVERY little detail of the arrangement is nutted out first. Everyone here has said co ownership of studs is a risky business. Something to think about is that studs (atleast with Rotts) almost always have to be at home to mate properly. Something to think about, how are you going to feel when your breeder realises your stud wont mate at her house, and she starts bringing multiple bitches to your house for servicing. What about when the bitches dig your garden, cry all night, have a fight with your stud (that your friend then expects you to put in for the vet bills)? I think it could work really well, just make sure all the details are, as I said, nutted out. Aussielover: Its a standard clause written into contracts over in the US and UK, I think for the price my puppies will be selling for the sort of people who intend to treat the dog badly are far more likely to be looking at $400 (NZD) Rott's on trademe from BYB. I will be meeting all puppy buyers and checking them thoroughly. If the dog develops HD/ED as a result of not being fed properly then thats partly my fault anyway as I chose them as a viable candidate to purchase the pup. When I meet my buyers I will discuss everything, in detail. No taking the puppy for long walks, no matter how full of energy they have. No bite work training on any pup under a year. How much to feed. What to feed (Orijen BTW). All of my pups will leave my property with Ellenco Pet insurance. I will talk to them about house training. Training them to be gentle with children, cats, other dogs. Then aswell as all this I will send them home with a puppy pack that includes a big bag of Orijen LBP and a Puppy Book. I think I'll take everyone's warnings and just bring the bitch over. I will see how I cope with three dogs and when the initial bitch is getting close to a year I will concider whether I want to import a dog, if not I will import seemen when she's ready. Something that does puzzle me a bit. People over here use very young stud dogs. I've had big name breeders tell me that studs are ready to use "as soon as they're ready to go" however while I dont see it being physically damaging to a dog to mate young (like it would be to let a 14 month old bitch go to pup) I wonder how many health clearances can be met by such a young age. I would love to import a boy (if my circumstances allow for it) when the pup is 12 months, meaning that when the girl is ready to breed (24-36 months) the boy would be old enough to mate. I know that hip[ scoring under 18-24 months in NZ is frowned on, and what's worse is that, over here, once you get a score you cant reapply to have more scores done on the dog at a more reliable age. I also know that when I got Kandies penn hip scores the vet said there was no way I should be getting elbow scores before she is atleast 24 months. I would NEVER breed the dog unless he had all his clearances! Even if the bitch had excellent scores and the boy seemed all good,

Also, I have mentioned CH titles alot here, however I would be attempting to get the puppy her working titles aswell. The puppy will be enlisted in obedience training too. I will be breeding for temperament in a big way!