Amanda Houstoun

I think we can agree with it's a shame it didn't happen 10 years ago.

My point is that until greater measures of care are firmly in place and cattle will be slaughtered in a manner that may be called 'humane' no further livestock should be shipped to Indonesia. It takes a great deal of time for such measures to be put in place and until it is no livestock should be allowed to suffer such outrageous cruelty. Mistakes have been made here, and really do need be investigated. It cannot be assumed that just because new equipment's installed and bodies send to oversee that all will be well.

Thanks for the WA information on where I can buy raw, have just been buying from the butchers to date. It's quite a trial being new to the country to locate a good source. We're experiencing roo for the first time :D

There are new proposals this week for different equipment, training and supervision protocols that have already been discussed with the Indonesian Govt. Maybe you could look them up rather than throwing in those now outdated by the new. But are we not discussing what has been happening, and what has been allowed to happen prior to recent exposure. Better designed equipment is well overdue and does not help the cattle being slaughtered today. Or do we just assume it will all be sorted by someone at some time in the future and stick our heads back in the sand?

There are new proposals this week for different equipment, training and supervision protocols that have already been discussed with the Indonesian Govt. Maybe you could look them up rather than throwing in those now outdated by the new. But are we not discussing what has been happening, and what has been allowed to happen prior to recent exposure. Better designed equipment is well overdue and does not help the cattle being slaughtered today.

The Four Corners documentary has achieved its purpose in getting the public to take a closer look at what actually is going on within the export trade. Religion cannot be used as an exuse for torture. When I stated I do not care about the farming families plight if export is banned, I referred to the families who are aware of the fate of their livestock. Being aware is the same as being involved. I am sure there will be many farmers who will elect not to export cattle to Indonesia, and I applaud them. I would very much support any effort made to assist them in their future. There are alternatives. Katrina M. There is no talk of the banning of pet ownership? I would be the first in line to oppose such a thing. We are speaking of treating animals humanely. I understand that such 'hot' topics do tend to make some people attack personally, but you have never met my son. He has a very strong moral conscience and is well able to investigate matters himself, as I said he is twelve years old not five. The Four Corners documentary would still achieved its point with pictoral footage only, words really were not needed to see the suffering of these poor beasts. I fail to understand how any animal owners love for animals cannot extend to these cattle? The equipment supplied by Australia to assist with the slaughter is an awful design. The Australian bodies sent to the abbotoirs to train and supervise failed miserably in their task.

Hi, I'm new to this forum and new to Australia, but I support the welfare of all animals so feel entitled to add my voice here. I did watch the Four Corners documentary and found it appalling. My 12 year old son watched it also. He is also a keen animal welfare supporter and insisted he be allowed to watch or how else could he be informed on what is going on. I've worked in dog rescue for years so am well aware of the cruelty man inflicts upon beast. Religion plays no part in this debate, the debate boils down to how an animal is slaughtered. If cattle is supplied anywhere to be slaughtered and the method of kill inflicts unnecessary and prolonged suffering it is wrong, and must be stopped by whatever means available. With Animals Australia, the RSPCA and other bodies combining forces, shipping of livestock to such countries will be stopped with the added weight of public pressure. I personally do not care about the small effect this will have on farmers (I come from a farming family) and other bodies envolved in the chain. I care about animal welfare and rights. They do not have a voice and rely upon us to do the right thing for them. If these countries can find a way to slaughter cattle where no unnecessary pain, torture or prolonging of death occurs, then there is no reason for shipment of cattle not to be resumed, under a watchful eye. The right thing now is to place a ban on shipping livestock out of Australia. Save these beautiful beasts from the terror and painful death that currently awaits them. Watch the slow painful death of cattle shown on Four Corners if you are in any doubt about what is the correct thing to do. The images have remained with me. Type in Animals Australia and there will be plenty of links to such footage.