Missymoo

great post tkay! all the good points marked down! How is your boy doing??

http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...;hl=liver+shunt http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...;hl=liver+shunt BHere are two relitivly recent threads that might help you out. http://www.poshpawssalon.com/liver_shunt%20information.htm http://www.vet.utk.edu/clinical/sacs/calendar/testing.shtml And some interesting reading. Shunts can be genetic or they can develop them. Since having my baby pup have one Ive done quite a bit of research, ask if you have any specific questains that these dont cover Hope that helps MM!

Aww go little sweep, glad he is doing better and gets to go home!

Yes, take the FIRST exit that says Werribee, as it turns into the OLD Princess Freeway and you drive right past the clinic (I have been there often this last month! lol)

I add a powder suppliment twice a week to all the dogs food, I add some low salt stock and stir in with the food. No problems (either that or sardines/or if we have had a roast that stock)

Awww she looks happy to be cuddled, glad she is recovering well. all the best with your little one!

Poor little baby. You are doing a great job thoug, it would be very tough. Electra looks nice and comfy, Rhino will get used to it soon. Hope she heals quickly and is off bouncing again!

Hi tkay, Looks like she very well may be adopted as there are a few people interested in her over at Werribee, great news, Im so pleased. Aparently a vet nurse has fallen in love with her and is doing her darnest to find her a home! I am a little relieved, will keep you posted

Awww some sad storys :rolleyes: I didnt know it was in Tollers, interesting. (Id did a DOL search and found your story a few eeks ago though when I was doing research inbetween testing of pup.) I am such an advocate for puppy testing along with many other Cairn Breeders as Id rather know asap and not follow the same genetic lines or home a baby with out know ing only to be told months later having the puppy go downhill, that would be devestating for owners Pretty much all Cairn Breeders test now days which is awesome We also have a health watch commitee in the club that anonymous results are forwarded too as well. thanks for sharing guys

Not many people do stich, but if we all help, maybe a genetic marker can be found :rolleyes: Im sure many breeders find themselves with somthing genetic that they dont want. These things happen unfortunatly. That mating will not happen again, both parents were PSS clear too, so it was somewhere behind them, who know where? Linda did say that she may have someone who would adopt her and have the op. Two other pups have been signed over in the last two years (not mine) and this has happened. I just do not have a spare $3000 for a shunt operation, and I cannot justify giving her to someone. At least vet tech know 100% what they are in for. I did however find very interesting that not all shunt operations are 100% fool prove as sometimes the shunt diverts or the blood vessels reopen, I didnt know that until I did speak in length to Linda. Thats a good link Stich, I dont have that one! lol tkay, its a extrahepatic shunt (found in small breeds) Thanks for the warm wishes. Tris, I hope little one is ok, also chatting to Linda, diet (Science Diet LD food) and antibiotics when a flare up of vomiting, runny poo etc occours can be ok for some dogs. She also had a pup diagnosed at 12 weeks (cairn again, not mine) that is now 3 with his shunt managed this way, as they didnt have funds for op. So it can be done that way too, as long as you know what you are dealing with. http://www.upei.ca/~cidd/Diseases/cardiova...mic%20shunt.htm (also a great link)

This has popped up a bit in this section lately... I can now confirm that a pup from my last litter (now 13 weeks) had a shunt. They begun testing with Dr L Abraham (who has a grant to study this looking for a genetic marker in Cairn Terriers) I had the litter of 4 tested, one came back with slightly abnormal results, was retested two weeks later, again abnormal, but not as high..so a syntygraphy was suggested that was done last week (also on the healthy bitch I am keeping for her study) sadly a shunt was confimed. I have signed over the pup to the University vet, a vet/tech may adopt her. The only symptym she had was she was always smaller then the other pups. I will scan the syntygraphy results (whith ultrasound pics of both healthy and shunt puppy) for those interested in what it looks like. Its been a long, long month, and although I was hoping for a better outcome it was not to be. :D Again like the Parvo, I choose to make this public (was just waitng for results) for the good of the breed and any other breeds who carry PSS and what to know what happens. When OH has scanned pages will upload Amifor Cookie Monster (aka Cookie)

A kong and stuff to put in it, pigs ears, puzzle toys (Hef liked carrots as well) Poor fella, hope he mends soon

Wow, glad the vet had a go at her, she may listen! Glad pup is ok and hope owner wakes up to themselves about dog ownership!! They are like furry children! lol

Great article

I dont have a cat, but sooo funny!

Aww poor pup, hope she gets better soon!

They look fine, if you are worried take atiny snip of the sharp bit at the end

Cairn Terriers are highly prone to this disorder and most breeders are checking pups now. Dr Abraham is doing reasearch into Liver shunt and ages the pups are tested in our breed.

That's strange. All our local chemists here in SW Sydney seem to have it. I asked in two chemists Thanks for the online pharmacy, will order from there Update on both boys: fine, no swelling or infections, keeping up with betadine though for a bit. I still have no feeling in my little finger though..is quite annoying!!

Went to a few pharmacies but cant find that stuff dancinbc I did get some manuka honey though from the health food section ;)

Heffy (butter wouldnt melt in HIS mouth would it??) His eye and the punture under his throat (not that you can really see from pics huh?) I had them out for wees in seperate runs and I dont think they can even be beside each other as they tried to go through the fence (luckily impossible) I think the friendship is well and truely over for these guys.... Both are happy and well today, no swelling I can see, but every time they go out (they are mainly crated today) an morning and night I have flushed wounds in the betadine Naughty boys, tails still wagging and they keep telling me, it wasnt them and theya re the best boy in the whole world! lol Cheeky brats!

Thanks Becks, good point, as Hef as a very deep punture just under his jaw in the neck triangle - I got hubby to hold him last night and squirted betadine into this wound. Will really keep a close eye on this one. dancinbc, Junior, lol I had never heard of it either! lol Willhave a look today (will be good to keep handy as well) Will try to get some pics today.

dancinbcs, where can I get Icthamol please?

Ok back now. Doc wasnt worried, said he would be if it was a cat or human bite. He did clean it with alcohol wipes though. Got some betadine while I was there and have just done what Nekhbet suggestted. Will keep a close eye on them as well. I will keep them quiet for a the next 24 hours I think. thanks all for suggestions and help once again, far out..can i have some good luck now PLEASE??! (ps hubby remembered my last tetnus was when I cut sliced by my puppy pen last year, so its still up to date )

OH is coming home now so I can see to this all, hes so good to me...thanks for everyones suggestions will update later :)xo