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Oh the cuteness, it's overwhelming!

Yes. You must. Please. I'll add another. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? And how did the meeting go with the potential family yesterday? And I hope you had a happy birthday yesterday SM. :)

I disagree. I believe the problem starts with unrestrained dogs who rush, and owners with no control over their dogs. It is threatening to be rushed by a dog. Train it, contain it or keep it on a leash. There's no excuse for allowing your dog to rush others, no matter how well-intentioned you believe it to be. My dog would likely rush up to other dogs if given the choice. I don't give him free reign to do so. He meets others on my terms, and isn't given the opportunity to botch it up and frighten anyone.

Good luck Raymondo, dazzle them with your gorgeousness!

My boy's second and last vaccination was when he was about 12 or 13 weeks. I had him titred a few weeks ago and the titre results have come in as being very good. My boy is rising 4 years old. I like your Vet . I like my vet too Erny, he's excellent. :D It's good news that your dog's titre results are very good.

Yes, my pup was vaccinated while still with the breeder (7 weeks) and then at 12 weeks. I just went back for the 12 month vaccination and shared my concerns as my dog was quite sick after his last vaccination. My vet said they are currently changing the protocols at their surgery as studies now indicate that for most dogs puppy vaccinations are enough to last for years. My vet believes that puppy vaccinations are important but after that, by and large, we are over-vaccinating. We didn't do the 12 month vac, just a kennel cough one as he is being kennelled next week.

:laugh: More like, he loves you, therefore he tolerates the costume! He's gorgeous Ruthless. Such a photogenic boy.

Juice I just had a similar experience this morning. ( I was only walking one dog though!) I was walking Bruno (15 month old boxer) home down our street and there were some guys working in the front yard of their house. I saw their male Amstaff eyeballing us, and he rushed across the road at us. His intentions were unclear, so I yelled at him. My dog went into a submissive pose and their dog thankfully, appeared to be friendly at this point. I got the feeling that things could go pear-shaped pretty easily though. So then the owner says, "I can't grab my dog (no collar) and he won't come to me, so can you walk your dog over here?" As it seemed like the best way to resolve things that's what I did. The moment the owner got near the Amstaff he bolted. He crossed a busy road, cut through a playground and disappeared into a nature reserve (full of cyclists, joggers and people walking their dogs). I didn't see him attack anyone, but he certainly frightened some people. One lady near the road was holding her small dog which was barking, though the Amstaff didn't go right up to them. I have no idea if the owners have caught him yet. So I too own a bull breed but hate being rushed by them, or any dog really. I'm more wary of larger, unleashed dogs particularly if they don't seem to be listening to their owners and/ the dog's body language is giving me a bad vibe. That said, we've been rushed and yapped at by some very aggressive small dogs and that is a pet hate of mine too. As others have said, the potential damage that the rushing dog can cause, and my ability to deflect it are my biggest concerns. My own dog is bouncy, boisterous and sometimes switches his ears off when things are exciting, so he is never allowed off lead in public. It's not fair to anyone else or their dogs, even if his intentions are friendly. The onus is on me to be a responsible owner and keep training him until he is better behaved and has 100% recall. I hope we get to that point one day. Juice, I hope your dogs are unaffected by the experience.

That is sad Missymoo, RIP Skip. I always enjoy the videos you post Snakecatcher. It's a good reminder to me to do a bit of a backyard tidy-up. We live close to a lake and bush reserve that is well-populated by tiger snakes (I've seen quite a few while walking the dog there).

Yes, mine is disturbed by whole pumpkins. Does a suspicious bounce and bark routine. :laugh:

Very interesting, thanks for posting. :)

A quick look through the DOL pointscore showed only one dog that was truly a 'plain' boxer. Most of them had at least two feet white well above the paw and some white on the face, and a lot of them had four stockings and white on the neck even if they didn't have the full or half collar. Genetically, that's flashy, although probably with some modifiers which may reduce the overall chance of fully white pups if bred to a really flashy, white collar, high stockings and face blaze dog (the genetics are not fully worked out for that). There was only one dog with a complete black face and white only on throat, chest, belly and toe tips, and it was a natural bob tail which is a whole other controversy :) You can breed flashy to flashy and get plain dogs. You can breed moderate flashy to moderately plain and get white pups. There's more than one gene involved, I think. Incidentally, to Espinay, I applaud what you said. I would like to see some things in boxers, but as I have chosen not to breed this particular breed I hope I confine my opinions to that only, and leave the harder decisions to those who actually do the job. It's not easy being a breeder, particularly if your breed has dilemmas attached, and I don't feel that my opinion should force boxer clubs in this case. It'd be nice to see some changes, but even that is not going to eliminate this particular issue in this breed and sometimes breeders will have to decide between two undesireable outcomes. That is something that will happen to any breeder for some reason or other - I have bred cats, and I've been through the dilemma of whether to euthanise a sickly kitten or treat and cause suffering which may not in the end save a life. A boxer breeder who has come to an ethical decision to euthanise white pups will not find me standing outside their door with a pitchfork and flaming torch, and neither will one who homes whites. I still don't understand why whites can't be limit registered, though! If you read the genetics info you will see the dogs with white chests and legs are sisi or plain, and the dogs with full collars are sisw flashy and these are the dogs that can produce swsw extreme white. Two sisi cannot produce white. I also looked through the top 20 pointscore dogs as I was surprised at Dancinbc's comment that most of the dogs were plain, not flashy. I disagree Dancinbc's as in fact, almost all of the featured dogs had some 'flashy' markings breaking up their black masks. My understanding was that a 'plain' Boxer has a full black mask (like my avatar). A plain dog does normally have white markings on the chest, feet and tip of the tail. It seems to me that Boxer breeders are between a rock and a hard place. You only have to watch a thread come up on DOL where someone states that they plan to breed their dog, to see how quickly they are questioned as to whether they have shown their dog. This seems to be the accepted benchmark of testing if a dog is a good example of its breed, and therefore whether it should even be considered worthy of breeding. I'm not saying this is a bad thing however, it sets up a notion that good breeders always show their dogs. So in simple terms, most reputable registered breeders are people who show their dogs. In Boxers, the dogs that do well in the show ring are 99.9% flashy boxers. Breeders can't keep an infinite no. of dogs. Therefore the pedigreed, health-tested dogs that are bred from are by and large, flashy Boxers. Many top stud dogs are also flashy. My own dogs' sire had the full white collar markings and 2 white pups were in his litter. Show people don't want plain Boxers ('Show potential' pups are normally flashy) so they are Limited Register and pet-homed out. It's been established that white boxers shouldn't be bred from, and very few breeders seem to show or breed from plains, so how do we change things? There isn't a 'working lines' and 'show lines' gene pool to work with, unlike some breeds. There seems to be show lines and BYB dogs, (with the latter accounting for the white x white breeding). To their credit, Boxer breeders have been focussed on health issues such as heart testing and accountability through heart murmer scheme registers. I take my hat off to breeders who do rigourous health testing of their dogs (and Clemevi you're one of them ;)). I do worry about the future of the breed though. I'm neither a breeder or a show person but as (*I think) LappieHappy pointed out earlier, is it time we saw more plain dogs being shown and recognized in the ring? If breeders were encouraged to keep some genetically plain dogs (of good conformation) in their breeding programs, white pups won't be a regular occurance. Nor the issues that can come with them. *goes off to do more reading on genetics* :) edited: Damn, I feel like a numpty posting this now! Jed did an excellent post while I was slowly typing away.

White Boxers are often sold at a much reduced price to pet homes, but are still microchipped etc. The cost of a white puppy through a registered breeder seems to be an amount that would cover their basics like microchipping etc. They are not put on limited or main register so they can't be shown/ bred (*BYB's don't care about that though). I don't think the breed clubs endorse/ say that white puppies must be euthanised, though it was accepted practice in the past.

He is Booootiful ! Well done to all involved in his rescue. If he's not going to be a foster failure (nudge, nudge Stan's mum) then I hope you find him a lovely home soon. :)

I love the ones of Stevie play-bowing.:)

Wow Clemevi, what a difference after just 10 days in your care! Mopar looks like a different dog. :) And from what I know, deaf dogs are often homed with people who already have a well-trained dog. They act as the 'ears' for a deaf dog, who can follow their lead as far as recall etc. goes. Hand signals are also good. :D

Yes, this is what seems to happen in WA, with the breeders that I know of. I think it was common practice to euthanize whites in the past though. White Boxers are sold at a reduced price to pet homes but are still microchipped etc. They can't be shown/ bred but can obviously still compete in obedience/ agility etc. just like any unregistered dog. Owners can still join their local Boxer club as associate members. White boxers are not always deaf. They do need an owner who is mindful of sun exposure but to be honest, it's not hard to do that. I exercise my dog early morning and late afternoon and he sleeps during the heat of the day (preferring the comfy indoors to the sun!) There are a few white Boxer owners on DOL. :)

Just1more mentioned that her dogs have problems with beef and lamb meat and bones. My dog is the same but has no problems with chicken or roo. Sometimes it's a matter of working out what your dog can/ can't tolerate. :)

That's one of my favourite clips Tilly. Glad it was the one you were talking about, and I didn't hijack your thread. :laugh:

I like this one: My link :D

Or from the ABC angle, which is less emotive than the Herald Sun article: My link

Thanks for all the replies and feedback. :) Whether or not my dog became sick due to having giardia at the time of worming is anyone's guess. What I do know is this: every time I worm this dog (3 monthly) he is sick for a couple of days. No big deal in a healthy dog, but this dog is underweight and has had other health issues to contend with. He's unlikely to have been suffering from Giardia last time he was wormed, and his stool sample was checked for parasites just after being wormed. I imagine that Giardia would have been one of the things checked, but I'd have to ask my vet. He was given the all-clear for parasites and then underwent treatment for 'Boxer colitis' (8 weeks on 'Baytril' twice a day). So I suppose my observation is only anecdotal and is not scientific but I'd rather not subject my dog to more chemicals than is necessary. If Drontal is fine for 99% of dogs then maybe my dog is in the 1% who suffers side effects. He doesn't have a great immune system and has a sensitive gut/ bowel. We have to go back to the vet this week. I will discuss doing a faecal egg count next time to determine whether worming is necessary (as suggested by Jumabaar and Erny.) :)

About 10-15 minutes here, although I haven't given them to Bruno since he was about 5 months old. He nearly choked on one and I was too scared to give them to him after that!

What a load of rot. It will determine date, time, place and cause of death. It's then up to the coroner if she decides to make recommendations. This is not about the dog - it's about the little girl who was killed! The media may be focussed on the dog but thankfully, the Coroner will be focussed on Ayen Chol. Rest in peace little one.

Bl**dy idiots! I can still see the boxer pic in the side area on the lower right hand side of the page.