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No kennel should put dogs together full stop when asked, whether it be in writing or not. It's a common request and if they can't adhere to the most simplest of requests then maybe they shouldn't be running a kennel at all, that sh*t shouldn't happen. I recently boarded my greyhounds just for the day and the thing that attracted me to this kennel in the first place was they do not board specific breeds. It may not be "PC" but the safety of my greyhounds goes beyond that, I just don't need the headache...or the vet bill.

Thanks Trina, yes our Maddie is not a huge fan of the camera :laugh:

...and to be not so sure :/

....to be sure...

How do you know what kennel was used? I can't see it mentioned anywhere http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/262055-dog-kennels-brisbane-area/ How awful for you O2Dogs I would still get legal advice.

I can't believe it's been two years. How wonderful that you visit Mum in her dreams Tip Di.

Gypsy is so 100% my kind of little dog. I wish finances (and emotional resources) weren't in such a parlous state - I would be in the car going to get her. I am sure she will be very quickly adopted by my many dopplegangers LOL. I actually thought of you straight away :laugh: From what I've heard Armidale is a pretty good RSPCA, I've never been there so not 100% sure. Gets damn cold there though and winter is on it's way, no shelter is any place for an oldie in winter

Good luck to the gorgeous Grace who is attending a greyhound walk with Maddy in Launceston at the end of the month. I hope someone will fall in love with her Valbitz that great news for puss! Todays senior is Gypsy, listed as a Pom cross and just over 13 years of age Gypsy is waiting for a loving home in her twilight years at the Armidale RSPCA in NSW. http://adoptapet.com.au/animal/animalDetails.asp?animalType=3&state=2&searchTypeId=4&pagesize=15&task=view&tpage=6&searchType=4&animalid=378805 Gypsy has been adopted

Labadore I give up. I wish you well with greyhound rescue, it's a tough gig believe me...or not. I have devoted a few years to fostering, transporting, fundraising and adopting my own two hounds. I live and breathe these beautiful dogs, I have cried a river of tears over the feeling of helplessness and had many a sleepless night but the "us and them" attitude has worn me down. Time to sit back on the lounge with my greys and let the experts handle this it seems.

The thing is Melz unless you're in the middle of it you really have no idea how bad it is. I'm sure the breed you love and work damn hard for including the abolishment of BSL would be frustrating and heartbreaking but I don't jump in and tell you what you should or shouldn't be doing because I have no idea. That's the difference. When it comes to greyhounds everyones an expert these days. There are a lot of people arguing with at least three of us here that between us have over 30 years in greyhound rescue but apparently WE have no idea. Does that get up my nose? damn straight it does.

There was discussion on this somewhere on FB and below is a rough list of concerns/questions that will need to be addressed- 1. How will the dog be housed? Tasmania can get really cold, especially down in the southern midlands. Dogs will need access to proper indoor areas in winter. 2. How many dogs will this facility hold? If they plan to take every dog offered, space for at least 200 dogs will be needed, along with exercise/day yards to accommodate that number. 3. Will day/exercise yards be graded/maintained for the safety of the dogs? Many greys are a bit clumsy at the best of times, allowing dogs to gallop in rocky paddocks could be costly at the vet. 4. How will the dogs be monitored when out in day/exercise yards? This applies especially if left out in pairs or groups. Muzzles will not prevent squabbles. 5. Assuming this is going to be a kennel situation, how will dogs actually be prepared for life in a home? This applies to housetraining, socialisation, etc. 6. Are the dogs going to be properly temperament and prey drive assessed by an experienced person? I've heard some very worrying stories about greys coming out of Brightside, lack of testing is going to prove entirely unsustainable very quickly, once untested dogs are being put out to the public in large numbers (and the inevitable problems start to occur). 7. What will happen to dogs that fail prey drive or temperament assessment? Will they be housed indefinitely in a shelter situation? If so, the shelter will need to expand on a regular basis to account for the growing number of dogs. 8. Assuming it will be larger numbers of dogs, how will it be managed to ensure individual welfare requirements are met? This especially applies for failed dogs where minimum standards of welfare are not sufficient to maintain the actual welfare. In such dogs, will there be plans in place to ensure their receive adequate mental/physically/social stimulation? 9. Given Animals Australia and Brightside are animal rights organisations, what will the dogs be eating? Vegan kibble? Regular kibble? Fresh meat? Assuming even a low quality kibble ($1.50 per dog/day), feed bills could easily run into the tens of thousands per year, possibly much higher. 10. Where will funding for their care come from? From my experience, each dog costs at least $500 to rehome and this is without any wages being paid and assuming the dog is rehomed within a few weeks of becoming available. To provide adequate care for each dog, there must be staff available to feed, water, exercise and provide social contact for each dog. Volunteers are great but cannot be relied upon for the daily care of the dogs. Considering costs of staff, food, preventative vet care (wormers, flea treatment, etc). I did some very quick numbers and assuming only two staff (working 8 hour days) and the dogs being fed a very basic food and receiving basic preventative vet care, the yearly running cost would be $222,856. This does not include routine vet work for each dog or things like beds, coats, toys, collars, leads, muzzles, emergency vet expenses or anything else. That number also does not include building or maintaining the kennels, power, water. It'd be difficult to calculate an actual number per year but it would probably be in the millions, if it's done properly. All valid concerns and will need to be addressed by the animal rights organisations in setting up and running this sanctuary, otherwise they themselves will be coming in for criticism. Labadore with respect these are not just concerns they are cold, hard facts. There is no room for "otherwise" when you propose to shut down an industry that has thousands of dogs that all of a sudden need somewhere to go and a good percentage of them are not rehomable. Please don't miscontrue my post just because we are on opposing sides of this debate . With regard to proposing to shutdown the industry, nowhere have I proposed that it be shutdown immediately. In fact, in some of my earlier posts, I have metioned that it should be shutdown over a period of time in a "phased-in" approach to avoid the issue of thousands of dogs being dumped at once by their so called "caring owners". Most rational thinking people who oppose the greyhound racing industry and want it shutdown, want it shutdown in a phased-in approach. I find it interesting that pro greyhound racing people like to insinuate that if the industry did shutdown, it would be immediately and this is obviously a "scaremongering" tactic aimed at anti greyhound racing people like myself, rather than applying commonsense and logic to their argument. Obviously pro greyhound racing people have a vested interest in this industry continuing, so I suppose it makes sense they use the arguments and scaremongering that they do to try and ensure its survival. Tis a shame that the killing and suffering of thousands of poor greyhounds in this industry will continue and don't rate a mention from the proponents of this awful industry. Who are these "rational" thinking people who oppose the greyhound racing industry you speak of? The ones that track down people IRL and threaten their families, make anonymous phone calls at 1am and say things like "watch your back scum" those ones? Like the charmer that told me yesterday to get a f*cking real job and stop using my greyhounds for profit, even though I had clearly written that I was in greyhound rescue, not a trainer or owner of racing greys. When I once again explained that fact I was then told that I really do want to get into the industry and that I am just a low piece of sh*t. The poster then deleted the whole thread, when they realize that they maybe god forbid wrong they delete and block. That's how they roll. Can you point out the rational part of that conversation? Scaremonger is a good word actually because that's what the anti extremists do best and as I have said a million times, their threats and intimidation of people makes them no better than the industry they so vehemently despise.

There was discussion on this somewhere on FB and below is a rough list of concerns/questions that will need to be addressed- 1. How will the dog be housed? Tasmania can get really cold, especially down in the southern midlands. Dogs will need access to proper indoor areas in winter. 2. How many dogs will this facility hold? If they plan to take every dog offered, space for at least 200 dogs will be needed, along with exercise/day yards to accommodate that number. 3. Will day/exercise yards be graded/maintained for the safety of the dogs? Many greys are a bit clumsy at the best of times, allowing dogs to gallop in rocky paddocks could be costly at the vet. 4. How will the dogs be monitored when out in day/exercise yards? This applies especially if left out in pairs or groups. Muzzles will not prevent squabbles. 5. Assuming this is going to be a kennel situation, how will dogs actually be prepared for life in a home? This applies to housetraining, socialisation, etc. 6. Are the dogs going to be properly temperament and prey drive assessed by an experienced person? I've heard some very worrying stories about greys coming out of Brightside, lack of testing is going to prove entirely unsustainable very quickly, once untested dogs are being put out to the public in large numbers (and the inevitable problems start to occur). 7. What will happen to dogs that fail prey drive or temperament assessment? Will they be housed indefinitely in a shelter situation? If so, the shelter will need to expand on a regular basis to account for the growing number of dogs. 8. Assuming it will be larger numbers of dogs, how will it be managed to ensure individual welfare requirements are met? This especially applies for failed dogs where minimum standards of welfare are not sufficient to maintain the actual welfare. In such dogs, will there be plans in place to ensure their receive adequate mental/physically/social stimulation? 9. Given Animals Australia and Brightside are animal rights organisations, what will the dogs be eating? Vegan kibble? Regular kibble? Fresh meat? Assuming even a low quality kibble ($1.50 per dog/day), feed bills could easily run into the tens of thousands per year, possibly much higher. 10. Where will funding for their care come from? From my experience, each dog costs at least $500 to rehome and this is without any wages being paid and assuming the dog is rehomed within a few weeks of becoming available. To provide adequate care for each dog, there must be staff available to feed, water, exercise and provide social contact for each dog. Volunteers are great but cannot be relied upon for the daily care of the dogs. Considering costs of staff, food, preventative vet care (wormers, flea treatment, etc). I did some very quick numbers and assuming only two staff (working 8 hour days) and the dogs being fed a very basic food and receiving basic preventative vet care, the yearly running cost would be $222,856. This does not include routine vet work for each dog or things like beds, coats, toys, collars, leads, muzzles, emergency vet expenses or anything else. That number also does not include building or maintaining the kennels, power, water. It'd be difficult to calculate an actual number per year but it would probably be in the millions, if it's done properly. All valid concerns and will need to be addressed by the animal rights organisations in setting up and running this sanctuary, otherwise they themselves will be coming in for criticism. Labadore with respect these are not just concerns they are cold, hard facts. There is no room for "otherwise" when you propose to shut down an industry that has thousands of dogs that all of a sudden need somewhere to go and a good percentage of them are not rehomable.

Yep. There is one already running in Sydney that people throw money at left right and centre, lets build more kennels to hoard more dogs! Taking greys from their "miserable existence" in kennels to place them in...kennels...for years...rescue? hmmmmmm.

There was discussion on this somewhere on FB and below is a rough list of concerns/questions that will need to be addressed- 1. How will the dog be housed? Tasmania can get really cold, especially down in the southern midlands. Dogs will need access to proper indoor areas in winter. 2. How many dogs will this facility hold? If they plan to take every dog offered, space for at least 200 dogs will be needed, along with exercise/day yards to accommodate that number. 3. Will day/exercise yards be graded/maintained for the safety of the dogs? Many greys are a bit clumsy at the best of times, allowing dogs to gallop in rocky paddocks could be costly at the vet. 4. How will the dogs be monitored when out in day/exercise yards? This applies especially if left out in pairs or groups. Muzzles will not prevent squabbles. 5. Assuming this is going to be a kennel situation, how will dogs actually be prepared for life in a home? This applies to housetraining, socialisation, etc. 6. Are the dogs going to be properly temperament and prey drive assessed by an experienced person? I've heard some very worrying stories about greys coming out of Brightside, lack of testing is going to prove entirely unsustainable very quickly, once untested dogs are being put out to the public in large numbers (and the inevitable problems start to occur). 7. What will happen to dogs that fail prey drive or temperament assessment? Will they be housed indefinitely in a shelter situation? If so, the shelter will need to expand on a regular basis to account for the growing number of dogs. 8. Assuming it will be larger numbers of dogs, how will it be managed to ensure individual welfare requirements are met? This especially applies for failed dogs where minimum standards of welfare are not sufficient to maintain the actual welfare. In such dogs, will there be plans in place to ensure their receive adequate mental/physically/social stimulation? 9. Given Animals Australia and Brightside are animal rights organisations, what will the dogs be eating? Vegan kibble? Regular kibble? Fresh meat? Assuming even a low quality kibble ($1.50 per dog/day), feed bills could easily run into the tens of thousands per year, possibly much higher. 10. Where will funding for their care come from? From my experience, each dog costs at least $500 to rehome and this is without any wages being paid and assuming the dog is rehomed within a few weeks of becoming available. To provide adequate care for each dog, there must be staff available to feed, water, exercise and provide social contact for each dog. Volunteers are great but cannot be relied upon for the daily care of the dogs. Considering costs of staff, food, preventative vet care (wormers, flea treatment, etc). I did some very quick numbers and assuming only two staff (working 8 hour days) and the dogs being fed a very basic food and receiving basic preventative vet care, the yearly running cost would be $222,856. This does not include routine vet work for each dog or things like beds, coats, toys, collars, leads, muzzles, emergency vet expenses or anything else. That number also does not include building or maintaining the kennels, power, water. It'd be difficult to calculate an actual number per year but it would probably be in the millions, if it's done properly. Geez, post that on the AA page or Greyhound Racing Don't Bet On It and see how you go Maddy. You silly girl with your forward thinking and statistics! Jan Cameron, who has set up her Animal Justice Fund, has pledged 5 million over 5 years...not just for her latest "Greyhound Sanctuary" but for AA to distribute as they feel fit. Now I hope they are prepared, for maybe a third of that to go to this one "project". Link to the AJF... https://bawp.org.au/animal-justice-fund/

Jan Cameron one would think, she's got more money than the Catholic church and it's all her brilliant idea. What I would like to know is how many foster carers have they got lined up? How are they going to assess all these greys for suitability to homes? You know, basic things like toilet training? If Emma Haswell, Jan Cameron's right hand man it seems, is the head tester for cat/pocket pets god help us all. I'm still gobsmacked over her public claim to be able to make any greyhound cat friendly O.o

This. I'd elaborate on my support of this but.. I've been saying these things for years and no one listens anyway so.. I remember someone posting on the rescue forum that even the so-called No Kill rescue movement believed that around 10% of dogs would not be rehomeable for valid reasons. But the movement's label remains misleading, given they're actually talking about No Kill of Rehomeable dogs. There was a quote from Nathan Winograd, the guru of 'No Kill', pointing to the great success of a US Shelter that'd achieved a 90% rehoming rate. The guru was thrilled with that. How that particular percentage (10%) stacks up, would be open to discussion, as would what constitutes 'rehomeable'. But to say all dogs are rehomeable is out of touch with reality. And sadly there are MANY greyhound "rescue" groups that are way out of touch with reality

Seriously the best your Mum will find. Friends have 3 SWF's and hadn't had a holiday for years, two of then had medical issues, one was elderly and they simply didn't trust anyone. I told them about Deb, they went and met her and the rest is history. They now have two overseas holidays a year with no worries about their babies. A close friend who is a vet nurse on the Coast boards her littly there as well and can't recommend it highly enough.

Just Like Home Pet Resort, cannot recommend Deb highly enough. It's only a small boutique kennel and only boards small dogs, I have friends that board there and would never go anywhere else. Bit of a drive to Kangy Angy but well worth it. http://www.justlikehomepetresort.com.au/ They're also on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Just-Like-Home-Pet-Resort/114811971880598

No piccies yet? H may have absconded with Miss Daisey, greyhounds will do that to you....just sayin' :p

Bless you Helen and thank you! Transport is not a small difference at all, without it greys can't get that step closer to their very own couch. Every single person that helps in any way makes a HUGE difference I hope we get photos :D

I'm sure she's doing mad zoomies in heaven CG Another greyhound angel watching over us

I agree, jealousy comes to mind.

Friends of mine at Malabar use Ben from Benny and The Pets, Kogarah and Belmore but he has a mobile service as well. They honestly can't speak highly enough of him and even though they are not short of a quid they said he is very reasonable in his prices. I'm pretty sure Tdieriex, sorry T can't spell it, knows him as well. Edited to add a link with some reviews. http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/benny-and-the-pets/kogarah

I love this photo of Grace Maddy

Do you mean when they find a home like Sars and Dogmad did? I'll update when any of mine find a home, Bill is still waiting