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I'm a bit late to the party, but my old Mini Poodle had a couple of growths that looked EXACTLY like that. One was removed and was found to be some sort of benign growth. It was some years ago now (5 or 6) and I can't remember what the actual diagnosis was, but it was one of those 'he's just getting older' things. I assume the others were as well. One became a big problematic as he picked it or somehow ripped into it and it bled and kept re-opening, but they weren't anything serious. Hopefully you'll get a similar diagnosis. Good luck!

It's easy to get a bit frightened at that kind of play, particularly when you're new to rough playing breeds, but as others have said I wouldn't worry. As you get to know Rogue more (and as she grows and matures) you'll have an even better understanding of what she's ok with, and when she's no longer happy and starts panicking. Sounds like you've got a great play pal there though!

Hahah, yep I just remembered my housemate's girlfriend's dog - Frankie the Mini Daschy. :laugh: There are also 2 pugs at my park, Alfa and Romeo.

I'm not going to be able to make this one unfortunately - I have a take home exam that weekend, and exams the week before and after. (fml )

I love random human names too. There's 2 Geoffreys at my park now! 2 of them!! Both staffy mixes - one was meant to be Keith but they looked at him and something just said 'Geoffrey'. We also have an Aussie Bulldog called Meatballs, and a little Staffy girl Pickle. I live for the day that those guys become friends. Oh, then they can play with Felafel the oodle and my life will be complete. Oh, and Sparkles the CKCS. oh god, and Brian the little mini daschy.. ahhh, love those human names!

Yes, this is so annoying. I think I'm now hyper-sensitive to stupid and irresponsible things that other dog people do, even things like not picking up after their dogs. It make me so, so angry. I have a really annoying neighbour who yells obscenities over the fence whenever my dog barks. Except she's in the house all day, and only ever barks when she's outside, and if there's actually something to bark AT. Or if someone comes to the door. Ie, things that in my opinion, it's ok to bark at. Him yelling at her ("AHHHHHHHH SHUT THE EFF UP YA FILTHY EFFING MUTT EFFFFFF" etc etc) even in response to ONE bark, just sets her off. ARGH. I wish he understood how lucky he is that he's not living next to a dog that is actually problematic in their barking. Rant over.

Such a horrible situation for you to be in - nobody in their right mind could flame you for this. If you are unable to find anything through the Tibbie people, perhaps contacting Melbourne rescues like Rescued with Love would be helpful, as they may help you to advertise and find a loving home. Ordinarily they take dogs from pounds etc, but they have a network of people and supporters who may be able to help with the re-homing part, rather than fostering.

If some of the statistics of what has been posted up here already by those in the breed are true, then it is good Mia is not deaf and good on you for rescuing her. But..... Why breed from something that is recorded and known to produce issues? That is a little irresponsible?? Why breed from something that increases the likelihood of producing issues? Shouldn't you be breeding to LESSEN the likelihood? Boxers are not my breed, however deafness does occur in border collies and is also related to the white gene and white factoring. Why breed from two dogs knowingly carrying excess white to produce the potential of blind/deaf puppies? Why put out there the burden on someone else to look after a problem that could have been avoided in the outset? then lets ban all the dogs that could have white deaf puppies. I dont think the people who have adopted these "problem" dogs see them as a problem at all I thought the aim of all breeders of purebred dogs was to breed healthy puppies. Besides this thread has already established that white boxer pups don't have to happen. They can be avoided. Yes, I think there is a difference between addressing a problem that happens (ie accommodating deaf puppies), and preventing it happening if you know it’s a risk. I personally agree with some other posters that is irresponsible to breed two dogs together if you know there is a risk that they will be afflicted with a known genetic condition, including deafness. Of course people who have adopted and care for deaf dogs and puppies don’t consider their dogs a problem – the issue is knowingly bringing deaf dogs into the world when instead, healthy dogs could be bred and healthy puppies brought into the world. One of my dogs is a BYB poodle cross. I don’t consider her a problem at all – far from it. She is the light of my life and I love her more than anything. But in hindsight, I think she probably came from a puppy farm, and I wish that puppy farms didn’t exist. In a perfect world, my dog Mimi wouldn’t exist, because the puppy farm (or BYB, who even knows!) wouldn’t have been in operation. However, I love her, she’s here, and she’s loved and happy and healthy. It can be difficult enough to train a hearing puppy, and many dog owners clearly have problems here and have dogs that never reach the level of obedience that they desire. Training is complicated that extra bit when there is a hearing or visual impairment. Yes, there are ways to train deaf dogs, and I’m sure I could google and find a bunch of articles about dogs that live full, happy lives and are brilliant with hand signals, and I’m sure there are probably some champion obedience or other dogs that are deaf. That’s beside the point – why breed together dogs that may produce deaf dogs, when you KNOW that this is a risk? Breed dogs that you can be certain (as certain as you can be, with breeding and genetics!) are not predisposed to it, and won’t produce deaf puppies.

Jesus, how scary. I get terrified when I turn on the light and see a possum! I would've had a heart attack :/

Totally agree. And come on, how many days does it rain CONSTANTLY? 99% of the time there's a little window of opportunity, even if it's only a quick dash around the block. I'm already seeing numbers at my park dwindle as it gets colder. I just stick a jumper on my dog and she's happy as larry. I'd rather wet feet and mud tracked through the house than a bored or sad little dog!

I would try and make either the 1st or 8th, but definitely wouldn't be able to do the 15th as it's smack bang in the middle of my exam period. I think the 1st would be best for me. All of April is a bit of a nightmare for me though. Examssss

Yes, that's why topics like this are important to discuss, even though they can get emotive. Nobody wants to put down puppies they have bred. Looking from another point of view, why would a person choose to buy a pet of higher health risk than its littermates? You would hope that puppy buyers want their dogs to have as long and comfortable lives as possible and would want to buy from breeders that felt that supplying only healthy, quality pups to puppy buyers was an important part of their breeding ethic. I'm a little confused. Is this comment saying that white boxers have a higher health risk? I thought that had not yet been established. I have asked whether white boxers are more prone to cancer. No-one seems to know. I think it has been established that white boxers are not usually deaf. PD They're definitely more prone to skin cancer, due to being more prone to sunburn. I'm sure I've read some articles about them also being prone to other cancer, but not 100% sure. Are other white dogs - bulldogs, greyhounds, bull terriers - prone to cancer. My boxers who developed cancer were not white. Some breeds are, yes. It depends on why they are white, though, which is related to pigment of the skin rather than just the colour of the actual fur. So breeds like westies, samoyeds, Japanese spitzes, and others that someone mentioned in a previous post, which are always white, have darker skin pigmentation and are not at the same risk of cancer as other breeds. My understanding is that white dogs of other breeds can also be at a higher risk of skin cancer, including bull terriers and bulldogs. Basically, white dogs (like white cars!) are more likely to absorb the sun and this automatically puts them at a greater risk of skin cancer. It's the same for pale people who burn easily- not sure on the figures for that, but that's just a cause and effect thing. Dogs that have coloured pigment in their skin (think of white dogs with black noses and darker skin under their fur) are more protected from the sun, due to the pigment colour. It's the same for dark skinned people who are at a lower risk of skin cancer- eg African peoples. As far as I am aware, boxers are quite prone to cancer anyway. (Many breeds are). Just because they are prone to it doesn't mean that every dog will get cancer or die from it, just as white boxers being prone to skin cancer will not necessarily mean that every white boxer will actually GET skin cancer. Edit - I'm not an expert on any of this, I just spent many years poring over dog books and reading things online. If anyone has further information to clarify which breeds that can be whit eare more prone to cancer, and which aren't, please clarify!

Yes, that's why topics like this are important to discuss, even though they can get emotive. Nobody wants to put down puppies they have bred. Looking from another point of view, why would a person choose to buy a pet of higher health risk than its littermates? You would hope that puppy buyers want their dogs to have as long and comfortable lives as possible and would want to buy from breeders that felt that supplying only healthy, quality pups to puppy buyers was an important part of their breeding ethic. I'm a little confused. Is this comment saying that white boxers have a higher health risk? I thought that had not yet been established. I have asked whether white boxers are more prone to cancer. No-one seems to know. I think it has been established that white boxers are not usually deaf. PD They're definitely more prone to skin cancer, due to being more prone to sunburn. I'm sure I've read some articles about them also being prone to other cancer, but not 100% sure.

There's also a specifically formulated 'Poodle Blend' that Royal Canin have- my poodle has this for breakfast and does well on it. Though she's anything but a fussy eater and hasn't had any dietary related problems. I also suggest buying a pair of clippers. I bought a WAhl Show Pro set online for about $70 (from memory) and while my dog never looks as pristine as she does coming out of the groomer, she's good enough for my less than discerning aesthetic requirements :laugh: The other thing it's good for is just maintaining a professional clip. My dog's coat grows SO bloody quickly, to keep her looking professionally groomed she'd have to go back every 10 days - I just keep her face and little feet shaved and every so often go over her body as well. Almost as good and muchhhhhhhhhhh cheaper!

I thought that there was also an issue with their internal organs being more prone to cancer too. Can anybody please confirm or elaborate on this?

Yep, a very familiar story!! I love how perfectly the pic captures it too! :laugh:

Poodle thread is here: http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/86415-poodle-thread/page__st__22815 The first link in the 'general dog discussion' is for 'breed subforums' - click on that and look around for the Poodle one. It's usually on the first page of topics, but will be higher or lower depending on how active it's been compared to others :)

God I know exactly how hard this wait is. My dog ate a rat that had (probably) been killed by bait a few months ago. And obviously on a Sunday afternoon when our vet was not open :rolleyes: Took her to the emergency vet where they induced vomiting and said they think they'd got it all out, and to take her for a blood test at our normal vet. I decided against vitamin K at that point because they were fairly sure they'd got the whole thing out, and thankfully her blood test came back negative. You've done all the right things and at this point can just cross your fingers and hope against hope that she'll be fine. It seems like you got to the vet quickly and started vitamin K immediately, so even if she was affected I'm pretty sure that means her chances of being fine are even better. From my own experience though, make sure you get any dead rats and mice away from places your dogs could find them as well. Dogs can be poisoned from eating them too, though the chances of it (and severity) vary with teh size of the dog. My dog is a 4kg toy poodle, which is why we were so concerned about her having eaten the whole rat. Good luck and let us know what happens. Fingers are crossed over here!!!

Yeah - give it a few more months, I think. I remember bringing home our old mini poodle, and he was basically jet black with a little silver face and paws. As an adult though, he was a very light silver, but was also darker on his spine. I guess it's like blue poodles - I don't think you can actually tell what colour they're going to be until they're at least a few months old (correct me if I'm wrong, someone!) as that's basically a dilute fading gene. They can keep fading for a while too. Either way- silver poodles are very pretty

Wow, he's gorgeous! I'm far from an expert, but silver coats do seem to take a while to change. In my experience (which is my current silver toy poodle and a silver mini when I was growing up) they're not usually uniformly the same colour, either. Maggie (in my avatar) has a much darker colour along her back - it almost looks like a line sometimes - and her legs and feet are almost white in some light. She also looks completely different depending on how long her coat is, and how brushed. Her coat is much much curlier and feels coarser if I don't brush her, but looks more like your Jasper when I do. There is also a bit of variation in the silver colouring too, with some dogs a more beige-silver and others much more graphite coloured. I've seen a great site that shows the variation in silver coat colour but can't seem to find it at the moment. Will get back to yuo if I do!

Yeah, about 15 minutes is pretty standard. And my dog is a 4kg Toy Poodle..

My intitial gut response was that it's a bit unreasonable, and I think that's why - if the store allows pets inside it, I wouldn't expect that you'd be made to pay for everything the dog touches. In fact, I would probably assume that the toys etc in easy reach of dogs and hands have been handled by people and at least brushed up against by dogs.

Hi Hugo (Ezza?) This sounds so so similar to my Toy Poodle when I got her a year ago, except mine was from a breeder who treated her very well in that she loved her dearly etc :) I agree with others who have suggested consulting a behaviourist for her separation anxiety issues, however I just want to let you know that there's light at the end of the tunnel! When I got Maggie, she had not been socialised with dogs other than other Toy Poodles, and had basically been kept in the house (though she had 2 litters). She was toilet trained, but didn’t have any obedience training and hadn’t been walked much outside the house, or at parks etc. If at all. She had no lead training and was scared of having a collar around her neck, let alone a lead too. I started with a puppia harness – though she is now a dream, walking on the lead with a normal collar, and we no longer use the harness. I basically started again from scratch with her, as it seems you have. But Maggie was so, so so timid that if I’d taken her to obedience training that soon she would’ve had a heart attack. She was scared of everything, and despite people telling me she’d come out of her shell, I just assumed that she was a very timid dog and would always be that way. She was TERRIFIED of other dogs (except little poodles, and small fluffy dogs, which she was just very scared of) and a few times actually weed or poo’d in fright when they came near her. She had no idea about playing or that other dogs weren’t trying to kill her, everything was a threat and she was just constantly afraid. A year later, I have to pinch myself sometimes to remind myself that she is the same dog. We did go to obedience for a little while and like your Ebony, she was a really fast learner and did great. She is still a very calm and fairly timid dog, but we go to an off leash park every day and she has her little dog friends that she runs up to greet and has great doggy social skills with strange dogs too. She will never be a dog-oriented dog, and is much more people-focussed. But as opposed to being scared of everyone and everything, she will approach people at the park all the time (especially women!) and is only scared of tradies now :lol:. She sometimes plays with dogs, though never full on rough play, just chasing etc. And people always comment on how far she has come. She’s like a normal, well socialised dog now- you wouldn’t know that she was such a timid little shy thing from looking at her. Stick around the forum- this place is a goldmine of information. Good luck with Ebony, these are just little hurdles and I'm sure that in a few months you will all be fine. :)

I'm more than willing to do my part and start the cute:fluffy ratio tests, or cuddle tests for companion dogs. Especially toy breeds - send em my way and I'll put them through some serious testing

That's the one that stood out to me as well - the change in Boxers is huge. This stuff is so interesting!!