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It kind of looks like a strange coloured lakeland terrier.. but can they be silver coloured?? ETA - just googled Pumis, I think you're right rusty!

Save and upload! Otherwise we can see the image source!

We can come on the 28th!

I think it's first in best dressed - so go ahead :)

Yay! You're all right :)

Nope - not that easy! :D

Woo! This one might be a bit easier - I'm pretty good at dog breeds by normal person standards.. DOL standards, less so.. :laugh:

RUSSIAN HORTAI.

Anyone else procrastinating by google image searching? This assignment just isn't going to get done tonight.. :laugh:

Azawakh?

While there is more to breeding than showing and health testing, I tend to agree with you. In my opinion, pieces of paper and paid membership to an organisation don't make a good breeder. Being a registered breeder and an irresponsible and careless breeder aren't mutually exclusive things, unfortunately. As I said above "Legislation will never take the place of ethics and morality".

This does ring alarm bells for me, I have to say.. I have an 11 year old poodle x that we got (11 years ago) from an ad in the paper, and in hindsight all the signs of a puppy farm of very dodgy situation were there, but we didn't realise at the time. It was the same situation - the woman's "friend" was the one with the mum and this woman was just helping her while the actual owner was away. Got to the house, there was just one pup there, and we got her. She was supposedly a poodle x bichon, but there's just no way in hell.. Obviously now I wouldn't change her for the world and she's my little heart dog. But looking back, I'm sure she's from dodgy circumstances. I'm not saying that the person you called isn't the real deal, because god, how would I know. But just.. keep your wits about you and don't be fooled by a cute puppy! It takes a strong will to walk away from a cute puppy, as well all know, but make it a head decision, not a heart one :) Thanks for this :) I am trying really hard to be patient! Really, really hard. I've just ordered a few smallish things to prepare. There will be a puppy in this house one day, I just have to find the right one. And you will! Just like all the good things in life, the more you wait, the better it is in the end. In a few weeks/months, you'll having a puppy in your arms, think back to think back to this thread and go 'THANK GOD I WAITED!!! Otherwise I wouldn't have this little one!!' ETA - another suggestion is that, when you go and visit breeders, don't take money with you, unless it's for a deposit (and even then, think about it..). I purposefully DIDN'T take money when I went to visit a breeder to meet a dog I was interested in, because I knew that once I met her I'd be smitten and want to take her then and there. Which happened - I tried not to, but I fell in love. I even loved her more than her little pup, who I met! (Thankfully my partner had brought deposit money along as a backup without telling me and we gave the deposit and took her home a few weeks later, when her pups were sold and she'd been desexed etc). But still, sometimes making things a bit harder is better in the long run.

:laugh: Very true!! I've never met a dog I didn't like, but jesus, there are some dogs I know that I'd never ever want to own..

While there is more to breeding than showing and health testing, I tend to agree with you. In my opinion, pieces of paper and paid membership to an organisation don't make a good breeder. Being a registered breeder and an irresponsible and careless breeder aren't mutually exclusive things, unfortunately. There are some registered breeders that I would basically consider to be BYBs that give you pedigrees. Hell, there are some that are no more than puppy farms, really. I'd steer clear of anyone un-registered as a first cut, and then eliminate the breeders that don't do what I consider are requirements and best practice for tha tbreed, when selecting a pup/breeder. Bearing in mind, as others have said, not all breeds have health tests available for whatever that breed is predisposed to (if anything).

This does ring alarm bells for me, I have to say.. I have an 11 year old poodle x that we got (11 years ago) from an ad in the paper, and in hindsight all the signs of a puppy farm of very dodgy situation were there, but we didn't realise at the time. It was the same situation - the woman's "friend" was the one with the mum and this woman was just helping her while the actual owner was away. Got to the house, there was just one pup there, and we got her. She was supposedly a poodle x bichon, but there's just no way in hell.. Obviously now I wouldn't change her for the world and she's my little heart dog. But looking back, I'm sure she's from dodgy circumstances. I'm not saying that the person you called isn't the real deal, because god, how would I know. But just.. keep your wits about you and don't be fooled by a cute puppy! It takes a strong will to walk away from a cute puppy, as well all know, but make it a head decision, not a heart one :)

I actually got a couple of quotes for dog doors and installation yesterday - one was $200ish (forgotten exactly) for installation and the door, unless we had toughened glass, in which case it would be $560, because they'd have to replace the whole pane. I get home and check, and of course we have toughened glass.. Does $560 sound about right for a new pane of glass in a door? I've got no idea..

Backyard breeders aren't a cohesive group who all think and do things the same way though. "BYBs" don't necessarily think there is lots of money made from breeding - some might, but others are just people who don't know what they're doing. Doesn't the number of individuals of a particular breed and type correlate wiht their popularity at any particular time? I imagine it's much like dog bite rates, with particular breeds being represented more when there are just more of that breed around.

Me too - I also hit a dog once, it's etched in my memory and I think of it often. It was about 8 years ago - two teen girls ran out after it (it bolted out of a house and straight across the road in front of me) and were actually apologising to ME while the dog spasmed in their arms. I will never, ever forget it. :cry:

Sure. But the more common scenario is going to be a fat lab, and that's what I think this article is considering. I'm sure most vets would spend far more breath talking about overweight pets than underweight ones.

I absolutely agree that in most cases it's the owner's fault. Of course there are some individual animals who are overweight due to illness or medication, but for the vast majority, they're just fed too much. If desexing makes them increase their weight and they require less, feed them less! I know it's hard to resist puppy dog eyes, but I get puppy dog eyes and 'feed me' looks from my dog regardless of how much or little I feed her. If I feed her too much and she puts on weight, it's my fault and my responsibility to fix it. I don't know who else would be responsible! Feeding a pug chicken necks for breakfast, and then basically 3 other meals or snacks is ridiculous.

Wow.

Which is the fault of the commentators not the fault of the rigour of the statistics. That there are gaps in the data indicates a lack of money to collect a comprehensive set of data. I have issues with the ABS but it is in the latter not in the rigour of what is collected. Agreed - in some cases. However there are other issues with definitions, particularly around unemployment. Eg if you have worked 30 mins one week even doing something ad hoc like babysitting, you're not considered unemployed, even if it was a one off thing for literally 30 mins. If you haven't actively looked for work for a week or so (I've forgotten the exact time period) or have stopped looking for work you're not considered unemployed. Etc etc. It basically means that their figures suggest the unemployment rate is lower than it is. It's just plain wrong. And lack of money to collect comprehensive data or not, there end point is still a lack of comprehensive data - that's a problem.

Insight into the way they collect and interpret some particular figures - particularly around unemployment. I used to work in transport planning and policy, and there were real data gaps that many commentators either didn't understand or care about, which meant that the way the data is used can render it misleading at best.

I agree, Sheridan. I'd like more info, but would also like the source. My faith in ABS statistics in a number of areas has been shot in the last few years.

It's in brimbank.. Not sure how far that is from mill park, is the ring road helpful? I have a feeling it's too far for you til you get your Ps And I don't think I've met hunter there, I think it was ollie? From a previous litter? Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2